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Did this, now the VGA led lights. I think I need to plug in my gpu, right?

That is what the motherboard needs now to post yes.

 

However, before plugging in the graphics card, I'd unplug the 24 pin from the motherboard and the 8 pin atx from the power supply.

This guide is for Corsair, however it will still work on your Gigabyte.

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025085372-How-to-Test-a-PSU-Power-Supply-Unit-

Unplug all your fans from their power cables, and any sata devices from their cables. Plug them in 1 by 1 doing the paperclip between each test. If you plug one in and it starts popping, unplug it and plug JUST the cable that goes back to the power supply. We can find the component or cable causing these issues without risking your CPU, Motherboard and Graphics card.

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Hey,

I just built my new PC and it wont start.

When I press the start button, all I hear is a crackle in the power supply. Neither the fans spin, nor any of the LEDs at the bottom of the motherboard light up.

Specs:

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Mainboard: GIGABYTE Z690 UD DDR4 1700 ATX

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO

Case: Sharkoon RGB Wave

PSU: GIGABYTE 750W P750GM

RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR4 2400MHz CL17

I have already tried another power supply, but it still did not start.

I add some pictures, maybe they help you.

Thanks!

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No GPU?

 

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Intel F CPUs dosn't have built in graphics so it can't output anything without the GPU installed

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Just now, Gokul_P said:

Why 8gb single stick of ram paired with a 13700F. You have to upgrade your bios to support the cpu in that board 

Also because I thought it was the problem, it is not my main ram. But how can I upgrade my bios if it doesn't even start that far?

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6 minutes ago, DasShark said:

Also because I thought it was the problem, it is not my main ram. But how can I upgrade my bios if it doesn't even start that far?

If your board has bios flash back you could use that or you have to use a 12th gen cpu to upgrade the bios to a compatable one inorder to use the motherborad. But i doubt that is the issue now (even if you get it working you likely have to upgrade the bios) it is likely your psu or your board iam leaning towards bad psu due to the bad reputation of that unit. And make sure your it is not your front panel switch beinh broken so bridge the powerswitch jumper directly on the board. 

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What power cable is hooked up to the top left of your motherboard? 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

What power cable is hooked up to the top left of your motherboard? 

That is an ATX_12V_2X4, it's used for powering the cpu.

 

11 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

If your board has bios flash back you could use that or you have to use a 12th gen cpu to upgrade the bios to a compatable one inorder to use the motherborad. But i doubt that is the issue now (even if you get it working you likely have to upgrade the bios) it is likely your psu or your board iam leaning towards bad psu due to the bad reputation of that unit. And make sure your it is not your front panel switch beinh broken so bridge the powerswitch jumper directly on the board. 

Ok, I'll try it.

 

17 minutes ago, LanerJ said:

Maybe this could be the culprit (unless they fixed it in a revision)

I don't think they would sell it any longer if this would still happen, but I'll google it for myself. Thanks for bringing this to my attention 🙂 

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13 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

If your board has bios flash back you could use that or you have to use a 12th gen cpu to upgrade the bios to a compatable one inorder to use the motherborad. But i doubt that is the issue now (even if you get it working you likely have to upgrade the bios) it is likely your psu or your board iam leaning towards bad psu due to the bad reputation of that unit. And make sure your it is not your front panel switch beinh broken so bridge the powerswitch jumper directly on the board. 

But wait, wouldn't the fans rotate even if the bios isn't up-to-date?

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1 minute ago, DasShark said:

That is an ATX_12V_2X4, it's used for powering the cpu.

Disconnect all of the Sata and Molex power cables you have plugged into the power supply. 

 

26 minutes ago, DasShark said:

all I hear is a crackle in the power supply

This tells us that you have something plugged in wrong. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Disconnect all of the Sata and Molex power cables you have plugged into the power supply. 

The ATX_12V_2X4 is needed, the manual says: 

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The 12V power connectory mainly supplies power to the CPU. If the 12V power connector is not connected, the computer will not start.

But I can disconnect all the other cables

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1 minute ago, DasShark said:

The ATX_12V_2X4 is needed, the manual says: 

That is not a Sata or Molex power cable. I'm talking about all the one that turn into a 6 pin on the motherboard. We want that atx 12v and atx 24 pin only plugged in. You have a lot of molex and sata power cables running around in that case, so we want to see if it's one of them, one of the necessary cables, or the power supply causing the noise. 

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Anything that looks like the last 2, Sata, and Peripheral get unplugged.

 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, DasShark said:

But wait, wouldn't the fans rotate even if the bios isn't up-to-date?

Therotically it should and light up the cpu debug light (assuming board has one). Thats why iam doubting the Psu so re seat every cable (only plug in essential ones this time). And make sure the front panel wires are correctly plugged in and the power switch is functional.

 

You only need to plug in the 8 pin cpu power connector and 24pin motherboard connector and Use a screw driver to bridge the connection in the power switch connector.

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2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

That is not a Sata or Molex power cable. I'm talking about all the one that turn into a 6 pin on the motherboard. We want that atx 12v and atx 24 pin only plugged in. You have a lot of molex and sata power cables running around in that case, so we want to see if it's one of them, one of the necessary cables, or the power supply causing the noise. 

image.thumb.png.6a9704df65f3ba7358a4e4a7d3f32a5d.png

Anything that looks like the last 2, Sata, and Peripheral get unplugged.

 

Did this, now the VGA led lights. I think I need to plug in my gpu, right?

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Did this, now the VGA led lights. I think I need to plug in my gpu, right?

That is what the motherboard needs now to post yes.

 

However, before plugging in the graphics card, I'd unplug the 24 pin from the motherboard and the 8 pin atx from the power supply.

This guide is for Corsair, however it will still work on your Gigabyte.

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025085372-How-to-Test-a-PSU-Power-Supply-Unit-

Unplug all your fans from their power cables, and any sata devices from their cables. Plug them in 1 by 1 doing the paperclip between each test. If you plug one in and it starts popping, unplug it and plug JUST the cable that goes back to the power supply. We can find the component or cable causing these issues without risking your CPU, Motherboard and Graphics card.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

However, before plugging in the graphics card, I'd unplug the 24 pin from the motherboard and the 8 pin atx from the power supply.

This guide is for Corsair, however it will still work on your Gigabyte.

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025085372-How-to-Test-a-PSU-Power-Supply-Unit-

Unplug all your fans from their power cables, and any sata devices from their cables. Plug them in 1 by 1 doing the paperclip between each test. If you plug one in and it starts popping, unplug it and plug JUST the cable that goes back to the power supply. We can find the component or cable causing these issues without risking your CPU, Motherboard and Graphics card.

Ok, I'll do it. Thanks a lot for your help.

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Just now, DasShark said:

Ok, I'll do it. Thanks a lot for your help.

Out of curiosity, you said you tried a different power supply. Are you using any cables from that power supply?

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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39 minutes ago, LanerJ said:

Is that a Gigabyte P750GM power supply? Aren't those the ones that light on fire?

 

32 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

 it is likely your psu or your board iam leaning towards bad psu due to the bad reputation of that unit.

While I don't disagree with the "PGM=automatically bad", they were going out when you went over OCP and they weren't tripping correctly. Just a CPU and a motherboard isn't going to cause that same problem. If OP is pushing the limits of a 750W psu, it would be wise to get a better one, but they hadn't had a chance to cause it to fail yet. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Out of curiosity, you said you tried a different power supply. Are you using any cables from that power supply?

The other PSU had the cables directly in it, and this power supply has cables you can disconnect on both ends, so no, each cable is at the correct psu.

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