Upgrade Path

[FunionsFTW]

CPU: 2700x (Since 2019)

MB: MSI x570 Gaming Plus (Since 2019)

Cooler: Corsair H60 2018 ed (Since 2019)

Memory: Ballistix Sport lt 16gb ddr4-2400 (Since 2018)

GPU: Zotac Twin Edge OC 3060 12GB (Since 2023)

PSU: Corsair semi mod 750w Gold (Since 2019)

Case: Thermaltake Verse N21 ATX (Since 2018)

Peripherals: 3 monitors (1 1440p 144hz, 2 1080p 60hz, hyper x mouse, corsair tkl, sennheiser hd58x, fosi q4 dac and amp, and samson q2u usb/xlr mic)

 

I built this as my first PC back in 2018 it has been through a lot and I love it. However, I felt from performance it is perhaps time to look into upgrading the components and wanted to make a post seeing a good starting point to save up for, to at least close to up to date. I'm not too worried about having the latest and greatest. Just what will work with where gaming is at. I put dates next to the parts to how long they have been in the system as I did make some upgrades over time. I mainly am looking at the ones that were before 2020. I didnt include storage but I do run games off a sata ssd, boot windows 11 from a nvme ssd, and store programs and files on a 7200rpm drive with eventually nas sever setup but that not for this right now.

 

I primarily game on this system (Destiny 2, Rocket League, Final Fantasy XIV, and several single player games that are more graphically intensive or ray trace capable). I do however like to stream, record, and edit videos from time to time. I have a elgato hd60 pro in my pc so I would want to make sure there is enough room on the motherboard.

 

I do not particularly have a budget, just a limited on my paycheck spending that I will be saving up for the upgrades over time.

 

Any advice is appricated, thanks!

[Middcore]

The 3060 is probably not what I would have recommended for a GPU, but if you just got it I'm not going to say you should replace it immediately.

 

The 2700X is probably the weak point of this system if it has one, the IPC performance there is starting to significantly lag behind newer chips. Dropping in a 5700/5800 should see a nice little bump in gaming performance and help even more with workstation tasks. If you did this I would also replace the cooler, 120mm AIO's are basically pointless except in very rare circumstances in small form factor builds where space is a major constraint. 

 

Your RAM is very slow, and Ryzen CPU's have always been noted for liking faster memory, although the real impact is probably kind of marginal. DDR4 has gotten so cheap I would look at 32GB at either 3200 or 3600mhz, which again will help a bit in games and probably help even more with editing.

 

Your motherboard is fine, there's no reason to replace it when compatible chips that are sufficient for your needs are readily available new at good prices. The PSU has more than enough wattage and should still be under warranty so there's no reason not to keep it. Your case looks like it has terrible airflow and swapping a system into a new case is a good way to make an older build feel new without spending a lot, but cases are also a matter of subjective taste. 

[podkall]

It seems MB will only need just a BIOS update if you go for a CPU:

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, FunionsFTW said:

Memory: Ballistix Sport lt 16gb ddr4-2400 (Since 2018)

are they rated at 2400?

[PcBeExpensive]

24 minutes ago, FunionsFTW said:

CPU: 2700x (Since 2019)

MB: MSI x570 Gaming Plus (Since 2019)

Cooler: Corsair H60 2018 ed (Since 2019)

Memory: Ballistix Sport lt 16gb ddr4-2400 (Since 2018)

GPU: Zotac Twin Edge OC 3060 12GB (Since 2023)

PSU: Corsair semi mod 750w Gold (Since 2019)

Case: Thermaltake Verse N21 ATX (Since 2018)

Peripherals: 3 monitors (1 1440p 144hz, 2 1080p 60hz, hyper x mouse, corsair tkl, sennheiser hd58x, fosi q4 dac and amp, and samson q2u usb/xlr mic)

 

I built this as my first PC back in 2018 it has been through a lot and I love it. However, I felt from performance it is perhaps time to look into upgrading the components and wanted to make a post seeing a good starting point to save up for, to at least close to up to date. I'm not too worried about having the latest and greatest. Just what will work with where gaming is at. I put dates next to the parts to how long they have been in the system as I did make some upgrades over time. I mainly am looking at the ones that were before 2020. I didnt include storage but I do run games off a sata ssd, boot windows 11 from a nvme ssd, and store programs and files on a 7200rpm drive with eventually nas sever setup but that not for this right now.

 

I primarily game on this system (Destiny 2, Rocket League, Final Fantasy XIV, and several single player games that are more graphically intensive or ray trace capable). I do however like to stream, record, and edit videos from time to time. I have a elgato hd60 pro in my pc so I would want to make sure there is enough room on the motherboard.

 

I do not particularly have a budget, just a limited on my paycheck spending that I will be saving up for the upgrades over time.

 

Any advice is appricated, thanks!

yep, 2700x. Upgrade to a 5700x or even a 3700x

[FunionsFTW]

 

7 minutes ago, podkall said:

It seems MB will only need just a BIOS update if you go for a CPU:

 

 

 

are they rated at 2400?

I believe so yes it caps at 2400 using xmp profile 2

[FunionsFTW]

12 minutes ago, Middcore said:

The 3060 is probably not what I would have recommended for a GPU, but if you just got it I'm not going to say you should replace it immediately.

I totally get that I went from a 1070 to a 3060 but I just accept what I could upgrade to cause prices still fluctuate.

[191x7]

Flash the latest bios and use the latest chipset drivers from AMDs website. That will help a bit now but also allow for cpu upgrades.

 

Get a Ryzen 5 5600, 7 5700x or 7 5800X3D.

If you get a 5000 that's not 5800x3D, you need at least 3200MT/s RAM, anything less than that severely bottlenecks newer Ryzen CPU-s. RAM speed doesn't impact the 5800x3d as much since it has a lot of l3 cache.

 

More than 16GB is also nice.

 

That system does not need anything else after that and it will allow for a stronger GPU to be used too.

 

[Middcore]

7 minutes ago, FunionsFTW said:

I totally get that I went from a 1070 to a 3060 but I just accept what I could upgrade to cause prices still fluctuate.

 

3060 (12GB) is a good bump over a 1070, it's just difficult to make a case for it on value in a lot of cases. If it's the best you could get at your budget it's not an awful choice. 

 

3060 8GB is a fucking travesty that should never be bought by anyone. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

48 minutes ago, FunionsFTW said:

Memory: Ballistix Sport lt 16gb ddr4-2400 (Since 2018)

Youll wanna overclock these, 3800-4000 for 1:1 fclk on ryzen 5000, though take a screenshot of thaiphoon burner just to verify ic since if its micron rev b it may struggle with higher speeds, rev e is what you want since that stuff will easily go >4000 even on lowbin d9vpp

[Middcore]

26 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Youll wanna overclock these, 3800-4000 for 1:1 fclk on ryzen 5000, though take a screenshot of thaiphoon burner just to verify ic since if its micron rev b it may struggle with higher speeds, rev e is what you want since that stuff will easily go >4000 even on lowbin d9vpp

 

He's not going to get 3800 from that RAM, nor does he have any need to. 

[cmndr]

1 hour ago, Middcore said:

The 2700X is probably the weak point of this system if it has one, the IPC performance there is starting to significantly lag behind newer chips. Dropping in a 5700/5800 should see a nice little bump in gaming performance and help even more with workstation tasks. If you did this I would also replace the cooler, 120mm AIO's are basically pointless except in very rare circumstances in small form factor builds where space is a major constraint. 

 

Your RAM is very slow, and Ryzen CPU's have always been noted for liking faster memory, although the real impact is probably kind of marginal. DDR4 has gotten so cheap I would look at 32GB at either 3200 or 3600mhz, which again will help a bit in games and probably help even more with editing.

I mostly agree though RAM upgrades usually don't get THAT much performance. 

If OP can flip his current RAM (or send it over to a NAS) a budget 32GB kit can be justifiable for like $80ish, otherwise just add in 16GB more of cheap stuff. 

CPU wise... 5600g ($100ish), 5700($180) or 5800x-3D($350) are the parts to look at. The g variants are more RAM sensitive due to having smaller caches. The x-3D part doesn't really care about RAM since it has TONS of cache. The best value is likely the 5600g if OP can flip or repurpose the 2700x...
I expect that the 5800x-3D is less likely to depreciate over time but it's not exactly a bang/$ part, especially when considering that OP has a 3060 limiting it. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

41 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

He's not going to get 3800 from that RAM, nor does he have any need to. 

So you are encouraging him to buy new rams even though his old rams if rev e will easily clock 4000+? Even if rev b theyll still do 3200 easy. Mild overclocks <4400 are easy to do, i mean ive clocked my psc transcend 1gb sticks from 1333 to 2200 with basically no effort, heck even raising the ram speed to 2200 the board can still boot into bios without me even tuning the timings and just setting 1.7v but much worse timings obviously

 

 

[FunionsFTW]

3 hours ago, Middcore said:

replace the cooler

Have any recommendations? Stick to aio or consider getting fan based

[Middcore]

15 hours ago, FunionsFTW said:

Have any recommendations? Stick to aio or consider getting fan based

 

Not offhand, you could ask in the cooling subforum. 

 

To elaborate on what I said about 120mm AIO's: they usually perform about the same or in some instances worse than a 120mm air cooler, while usually costing more, and introducing all of the (rare, but real) potential points of failure of having a liquid cooler. 

 

So I am not against AIO's in general, but 120mm ones specifically almost never make sense. And a single fan 120mm cooler, whether air or liquid, probably isn't going to get the job done for a newer Ryzen 7, especially in a case where the air flow looks suspect.