Lightroom build whit Optane?

[tigrotoir]

Hi, I am searching to build a pc dedicate for Lightroom Classique.
I have read somewhere that Optane would deliver a great boost to lightroom.
After some research i what thinking to build a pc around the LGA 3647 socket whit Intel Optane 128GB in the rams slot, and us regular SSD for back up and long time storage.

I use old DSLR, so all of my pictures are well under 20mb.

 

The part i was thinking of buying:
SuperMicro X11SPA-TF
Intel Optane 128GB (DDR4-2666) (for storage)
Regulars ECC DDR4 (i have some from a old SP3 build)

For the CPU I don’t really now for now (I just now that I down really know a high corps count)
Gpu anny old Nvidia gpu I can find that is not expensive.

 

My current system Is base around am4, Ryzen 3 2200g , whit a PCIe Samsung 1.6tb SSD

 

Well, I am a bit over my head whit Optane I don’t now if it would work ore even be a good idea.
Finding good information for lightroom Classique is not really easy. I only now that Pugetsystems dos some test on it.
Anny recommendation, critique are welcome.
have a nice day !

 

NB: Thanks for taking the time to read, Sorry for my English, not my first language.

 

[OddOod]

Welcome to the forums!
Is this a personal rig or professional? You seem to be planning on spending 600$ on a mobo which only takes thousand+ dollar processors. I'd heavily recommend you consider something like a modern or last gen AMD high end desktop CPU. Your current CPU is 4core/4thread, whereas the 5/7950X is 16c/32t. All in, with case and all other parts you'd be out a few grand and you'd be able to get 128GB RAM and not have to mess with Optane which has been end of life for a while now

[OddOod]

Tossed together a proposed build, not sure where you live, but these are all pretty solid choices
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RQVnv3

[tigrotoir]

 

1 hour ago, OddOod said:

Welcome to the forums!
Is this a personal rig or professional? You seem to be planning on spending 600$ on a mobo which only takes thousand+ dollar processors. I'd heavily recommend you consider something like a modern or last gen AMD high end desktop CPU. Your current CPU is 4core/4thread, whereas the 5/7950X is 16c/32t. All in, with case and all other parts you'd be out a few grand and you'd be able to get 128GB RAM and not have to mess with Optane which has been end of life for a while now

Hi, OddOod i sea a fellow doctor how fan hahhaha. 
First thanks for taking the time to replay.

It is for my one used maybe for pro one day =D
last year i made a build whit a 3900x. and i have to say i was not rely impressed by the performance on Lightroom catalogue. i correctly have a 5600x on my gaming computer but there to, it take some time to load the photos wen there are 100 of theme (i have a gen4ssd 7gbs, cant remember the model). What i understand photos are small data shuck. That wold benefit from strong random reads and right. that why optane would be great for what i understand whit the Iops.
CPU horsepower is more for the smart preview end edit the image for what i understand. 
I was thinking about optane ddr4. I only buy used part so the MB I saw it for 400 and cpu I don’t think a need more that 8 ore 10 cors

 

 

[OddOod]

9 hours ago, tigrotoir said:

a fellow doctor who fan

Yeah, was important to me in my formative adult years. These days it just kinda fits who I am.

 

9 hours ago, tigrotoir said:

It is for my own use, maybe for pro one day

So the important thing here is that it's a hobby not a job, put another way you're spending money to save frustration not money. We do not futureproof because in the future, things will be cheaper.

 

9 hours ago, tigrotoir said:

it takes some time to load the photos when there are 100 of them

I've been skimming some forums and even Adobe's own help blog and it looks like there is little to be done. The common answer is "the bottleneck is Lightroom itself"
You do seem to be going down the right alley with more cores and more RAM. It looks like, given enough RAM you are less likely to be bottlenecked by random reads on the drive. 
I found a list of the best systems people are using for LRC, they seem to be using 32GB of high speed ram with ~32 core consumer processors. That consumer notation is important due to their insane clock speeds which appear to be more important than the strict number of cores. 
One good idea is comparing the multithread score of various processors. I grabbed a reasonable comparison line up here. 

 

Does any of this sway you one way or another?

[tigrotoir]

1 hour ago, OddOod said:

You do seem to be going down the right alley with more cores and more RAM. It looks like, given enough RAM you are less likely to be bottlenecked by random reads on the drive. 

 

Yea that what i was thinking, taht the random reads on the drive are what  is making Lightroom struggle. 

 

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I found a list of the best systems people are using for LRC, they seem to be using 32GB of high speed ram with ~32 core consumer processors.

On Pugetsystems, they talk that more than 10 cores there is almost no point. superb find on the list it is very helpful ! Thanks

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Do more cores make Lightroom Classic faster?

With the launch of Lightroom Classic, Adobe made great strides in being able to effectively utilize higher core count CPUs. However, having a high number of cores (more than ~8) typically only helps with a few tasks like exporting and generating previews. In most cases, the CPU frequency and underlying architecture makes a bigger impact than the raw number of cores.

I think you are right "the bottleneck is Lightroom itself" 
And the real limitation is adobe lack of investment i modernizing they programs.... 
I think i might be better off buying a current gen Ryzen or intel whit 8 reals cores.
Maybe i can find a deal on the old i9-12900k and pair it whit good ddr5 and maybe a intel Optane for current in the work project and off load to a normal nvme wen it is done. 

 

Anny way thanks for the help !