Threadripper 1950x cause a bottle neck with a 2080 ti

[Deathstrike19781]

Hi my system currently comprises of a Threadripper 1950x , 32gb of 3200mhz ddr4 ram and a gtx 960. im looking at upgrading to a new graphics card and ive got 3 im considering , A 1080 ti AIO and a 2080 super or 2080 ti (depending on price )

 

Would my 1950x bottleneck the 2080ti/super? . i know a 1080 ti would work perfect but since a 2080ti/super isnt much more expensive i may stretch to one of them for the power efficiency and ray tracing capabilities 

 

Thanks for your knowledge and yes i know a threadripper is a unusual chip but i host alot of game servers off my pc and the extra cores and ram wiggle room is amazing (i paid less then £400 for my current system)

 

Pc specs to help 

1950x overclocked to 4ghz at 1.45V

Noctua tower

Asus x399-A Board

Gtx 960 gigabyte windforce x2 4GB (this is what im swapping out)

Corsair vengance 8x4 set of 3200mhz

WD 4tb

WD 3tb 

Rando sata 250gb ssd (better than a HDD atleast)

OCZ 600W psu

Corsair c70 ammo box case

 

Thanks!

[Zando_]

Zen is a bit shittier Haswell-E as far as performance goes. It will bottleneck the 2080 Ti at 1080p, but if you're content with 60fps then meh that won't be a problem, I've run worse combos (X5675 Xeon from 2011 with a 1080 Ti/Radeon VII) before. For 1440p and up you should be fine. 

[191x7]

The threadripper 1st gen is weak nowadays, especially for single-core performance. It would bottleneck most modern mid-range to high-end cards even on 1440p, not to mention 1080p (a huge bottleneck). I would recommend upgrading the whole platform. And yes, it would bottleneck a 1080 Ti in many games too. That card is still good.

OCZ is out of the business for maybe a decade, so you should probably replace your PSU too.

 

Consider a Tier A or B PSU from the PSU cultists tier list paired with an i5 13600k and a compatible motherboard that supports ddr4. That would be a huge boost even for productivity.

[Middcore]

Sorry to say I agree that at this point I would look at basically building a whole new system. RAM and storage can carry over, although I'd get a new boot SSD as well. First-gen Threadripper has not aged well at all. I want to especially underline what @191x7 says above and tell you to replace that PSU no matter what you decide to do, using a decade-old (or more) PSU from a company that's out of business in a system you care about at all is inadvisable in general.

[Deathstrike19781]

7 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The threadripper 1st gen is weak nowadays, especially for single-core performance. It would bottleneck most modern mid-range to high-end cards even on 1440p, not to mention 1080p (a huge bottleneck). I would recommend upgrading the whole platform. And yes, it would bottleneck a 1080 Ti in many games too. That card is still good.

OCZ is out of the business for maybe a decade, so you should probably replace your PSU too.

 

Consider a Tier A or B PSU from the PSU cultists tier list paired with an i5 13600k and a compatible motherboard that supports ddr4. That would be a huge boost even for productivity.

im plenty happy with the threadripper already and like i said i host servers so single core isnt my priority and as for my psu it performs perfect and last time i did a maintenance check everything was showing like new results so no need to waste money on that . for 1080P gaming so F1 22 / 23 when it comes out , seige , GTA , overwatch. What card should i pickup?

[Deathstrike19781]

1 minute ago, Middcore said:

Sorry to say I agree that at this point I would look at basically building a whole new system. RAM and storage can carry over, although I'd get a new boot SSD as well. First-gen Threadripper has not aged well at all. I want to especially underline what @191x7 says above and tell you to replace that PSU no matter what you decide to do, using a decade-old (or more) PSU from a company that's out of business in a system you care about at all is inadvisable in general.

I got the system for dirt cheap and im not interested in selling it just to get a couple more frames . it is perfect and for my servers the cores get utilized 

 

The Psu is perfectly fine i tested it and capacitors ect show no fault and pretty much no degradation so ill replace it once i use more than 70% of its power draw 

[191x7]

2 minutes ago, Deathstrike19781 said:

im plenty happy with the threadripper already and like i said i host servers so single core isnt my priority and as for my psu it performs perfect and last time i did a maintenance check everything was showing like new results so no need to waste money on that . for 1080P gaming so F1 22 / 23 when it comes out , seige , GTA , overwatch. What card should i pickup?

Get the RTX 3060 8GB. That's my default answer to people who won't listen.

[Deathstrike19781]

41 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

Zen is a bit shittier Haswell-E as far as performance goes. It will bottleneck the 2080 Ti at 1080p, but if you're content with 60fps then meh that won't be a problem, I've run worse combos (X5675 Xeon from 2011 with a 1080 Ti/Radeon VII) before. For 1440p and up you should be fine. 

for 1080p Gta , seige , overwatch , F1 22 what would you recommend and if i upgraded to 1440p would the 1080 be worth the buy ? im suprised the 1080 bottlenecks it as they where being bundled together and sold 

[Deathstrike19781]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

Get the RTX 3060 8GB. That's my default answer to people who won't listen.

thatd cause a bigger bottleneck than a 2080 or a 1080. im sorry i dont agree with selling my system in hunt for 3 frames more . the threadripper is fine and im happy with it 

[Middcore]

2 minutes ago, Deathstrike19781 said:

I got the system for dirt cheap and im not interested in selling it just to get a couple more frames . it is perfect and for my servers the cores get utilized 

 

The Psu is perfectly fine i tested it and capacitors ect show no fault and pretty much no degradation so ill replace it once i use more than 70% of its power draw 

You asked us if the CPU would hold back a 2080 Super/Ti. The answer is yes. If you weren't going to change the CPU no matter what, why did you ask?

 

1950x+2080 ti will probably draw north of 400W before taking into account any other components. My recommendation on PSU was about systems you care about, and it seems like this isn't one, so do whatever you want.

[Deathstrike19781]

1 minute ago, Middcore said:

You asked us if the CPU would hold back a 2080 Super/Ti. The answer is yes. If you weren't going to change the CPU no matter what, why did you ask?

 

1950x+2080 ti will probably draw north of 400W before taking into account any other components. My recommendation on PSU was about systems you care about, and it seems like this isn't one, so do whatever you want.

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If you weren't going to change the CPU no matter what, why did you ask?

I never said id change the processor and only asked would it . ive got my answer so thank you

[Middcore]

7 minutes ago, Deathstrike19781 said:

thatd cause a bigger bottleneck than a 2080 or a 1080. 

Nah. The 3060 is a pretty dud card, it's distinctly weaker than a 2080 ti, it might roughly match up to the 2070 Super or vanilla 2080.

[191x7]

3 minutes ago, Middcore said:

Nah. The 3060 is a pretty dud card, it's distinctly weaker than a 2080 ti, it might roughly match up to the 2070 Super or vanilla 2080.

And it would perform like a 2080Ti or a 4090 in that system because of the CPU bottleneck.

I intentionally named the 3060 8Gb version cause it's a cut down 3060 that costs the same as a regular 3060. I'm not that evil to recommend a 3050 but maybe I should have, jsut to keep his PSU safe.

[Middcore]

Just now, 191x7 said:

And it would perform like a 2080Ti or a 4090 in that system because of the CPU bottleneck.

I intentionally named the 3060 8Gb version cause it's a cut down 3060 that costs the same as a regular 3060. I'm not that evil to recommend a 3050 but maybe I should have, jsut to keep his PSU safe.

 

I didn't notice you had suggested the 8GB version (first and last time I expect I'll see it recommended here) so my estimate of its performance above is probably very optimistic.

[Deathstrike19781]

6 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

And it would perform like a 2080Ti or a 4090 in that system because of the CPU bottleneck.

I intentionally named the 3060 8Gb version cause it's a cut down 3060 that costs the same as a regular 3060. I'm not that evil to recommend a 3050 but maybe I should have, jsut to keep his PSU safe.

alright ill give into your concerns then. if you can give me a link to a decent but cheap psu around 600 watts preferably on a UK website ill pick it up after Xmas (something with 2 cpu connectors 8 and a 4 and somethin with 2 8 pin pcie )

[IkeaGnome]

12 minutes ago, Middcore said:

it might roughly match up to the 2070 Super or vanilla 2080.

Closer to a 2060 for the 3060 8gb. It's actually regularly beaten by the A750.

 

[Deathstrike19781]

9 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

And it would perform like a 2080Ti or a 4090 in that system because of the CPU bottleneck.

I intentionally named the 3060 8Gb version cause it's a cut down 3060 that costs the same as a regular 3060. I'm not that evil to recommend a 3050 but maybe I should have, jsut to keep his PSU safe.

its only a 2009 power supply 

[Middcore]

1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

Closer to a 2060 for the 3060 8gb. It's actually regularly beaten by the A750.

 

 

Yeah, I overlooked that he said the 8GB model.

 

1 minute ago, Deathstrike19781 said:

its only a 2009 power supply 

 

IE, years older than the longest warranties any manufacturer (the ones that are still in business) offers. 

[Deathstrike19781]

2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

Yeah, I overlooked that he said the 8GB model.

 

 

IE, years older than the longest warranties any manufacturer (the ones that are still in business) offers. 

I think it can survive a week or two and like i said if someone can give me a point in the right direction to one ill get it its just ominous looking at the list of safe power supplys  

[Zando_]

33 minutes ago, Deathstrike19781 said:

for 1080p Gta , seige , overwatch , F1 22 what would you recommend and if i upgraded to 1440p would the 1080 be worth the buy ? im suprised the 1080 bottlenecks it as they where being bundled together and sold 

2080 Ti. Is the fastest of the options presented, again unless you're shooting for high refresh and/or refuse to use v-sync, should be a non-issue, and it'll last longer before needing to be replaced. Also the most powerful out of those options if you want to do any non-gaming, it's a rather beefy CUDA card with a fat chunk of VRAM.

 

If you're worried about power then just get the 3060 12GB. Not the 8GB model, it's shit as explained by the other guys a bit above.

 

5 minutes ago, Deathstrike19781 said:

I think it can survive a week or two and like i said if someone can give me a point in the right direction to one ill get it its just ominous looking at the list of safe power supplys  

Check EVGA's B-Stock (refurbished, certified to function like new with at most cosmetic damage, my stuff has always looked crisp tho, and 1 year warranty vs the standard 3-5) section tomorrow:https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=Power+Supplies, they usually put B-Stock stuff on sale on Wednesdays. The G/P/T[number] series are at worst solid, at best very good. I think the GA series is decent as well, but I'm not up to snuff on them so you'd want to look for a review from TomsHardware or Aris that breaks down how the PSU functions and any glaring issues with them.

[Deathstrike19781]

4 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

2080 Ti. Is the fastest of the options presented, again unless you're shooting for high refresh and/or refuse to use v-sync, should be a non-issue, and it'll last longer before needing to be replaced. Also the most powerful out of those options if you want to do any non-gaming, it's a rather beefy CUDA card with a fat chunk of VRAM.

 

If you're worried about power then just get the 3060 12GB. Not the 8GB model, it's shit as explained by the other guys a bit above.

 

Check EVGA's B-Stock (refurbished, certified to function like new with at most cosmetic damage, my stuff has always looked crisp tho, and 1 year warranty vs the standard 3-5) section tomorrow:https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=Power+Supplies, they usually put B-Stock stuff on sale on Wednesdays. The G/P/T[number] series are at worst solid, at best very good. I think the GA series is decent as well, but I'm not up to snuff on them so you'd want to look for a review from TomsHardware or Aris that breaks down how the PSU functions and any glaring issues with them.

im using a asus 1080p 144hz monitor so i usually shoot for 144fps but i dont think my 960 manages that in Tetris lmao. ive found a really good priced 2080 ti and im shooting my shot to see if i can grab it or atleast a 1080 ti. i know the 900 series drivers are being shut down soon so the 2000 series will give me alot of headroom as i dont like upgrading until i have to (the 960 proves it ) ill see if i can find the uk or eu version of evga B stock and ill definitely look on there. thank you for your help and not recommending rebuilding a perfectly fine system lol !

[Deathstrike19781]

11 hours ago, candle86 said:

What I will say is when I replace my 1600 with a 5700 x with my 30 60 TI my performance at 1080p jumped nearly 40% so I would say that your threadripper is likely going to bottleneck anything similar in performance wise which would be an RTX 2080. You're looking at probably a 20% uplift just upgrading the CPU.

The threadripper definitely is old but I can't justify selling it and loosing all my cores which I do use and regardless of single core speed which it sucks ass at the multi core is what I use . I ended up getting a Asus rog strix 1080 ti and it's working brilliant so I'll keep this for the next 50 years untill they stop supporting 1000 series . I paid £200 for the threadripper , cooler and board so I'm gonna keep hold of it untill it hits end of life 

[Deathstrike19781]

1 hour ago, candle86 said:

Hey I don't blame you but look at it this way and 2026 and officially becomes a retro computer because it no longer has support for a modern version of Windows with support.

 

That's right 2026 everybody that still running Windows 10 is officially running a retro computer. Lol

ill be happy with my retro rig then lol! i dont think windows 11 will be any good for a while