Thoughts on my build?

[Sapphire Storm]

Budget (including currency): $1,600-$2,100

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p gaming, streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Here is the build I have so far:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ftFG6r

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Dark Za 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ SE Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($875.92 @ MemoryC)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case  ($206.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: HP X27q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($206.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1705.77

 

[podkall]

So, I can tell you if the parts are good together, I don't know if any of the parts could be swapped by a cheaper option.

 

CPU and Motherboard looks good, already bought them? (some would suggest to consider buying a 13th gen CPU if you didn't)

 

CPU cooler seems enough to cool the CPU, and I don't know if it leaves enough room for RAM but I think it does.

 

RAM looks good, storage looks good.

 

GPU seems good probably.

 

Case can fit everything.

 

PSU in terms of Wattage is enough.

 

@Pixelfie  @Dukesilver27- what do u think?

[GeorgeMKane]

44 minutes ago, Sapphire Storm said:

Budget (including currency): $1,600-$2,100

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p gaming, streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Here is the build I have so far:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ftFG6r

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Dark Za 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ SE Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($875.92 @ MemoryC)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case  ($206.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: HP X27q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($206.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1705.77

 

Cheaper, much better cpu cooler, and I went with a 980 Pro so you can carry that over easier to the next build. I also went with a 3070Ti instead.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWq3Mb

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.78 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($619.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  ($169.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.95 @ B&H) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Prisma AL 85.71 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($27.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Samsung S27AG50 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($249.99 @ Best Buy) 
$1677.62

 

With some modifications, you can get a RTX 3080 instead.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7CRkyK

Edited November 5, 2022 by GeorgeMKane

[Dukesilver27-]

I was summoned here.

Changes:

Better cooler, 12700K runs quite hot. I don't see the point of ARGB cooler when you pick a solid panel instead of glass panel case.

I don't see the need for 32GB of RAM for gaming and streaming, instead I picked 3600MHZ 16GB.

SSD changed to SN770, better value and more performance than any game could use, gen 4 too.

RX 6950 XT instead of 6900 XT, cheaper too, whats up with that.

Higher quality PSU, multi rail, FYR https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Better 1440p display, you don't want to cheap out on displays man, it's literally the window to your games, what your eyes see.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gp850-b

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/97htqm

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: OLOy MD4U0836180BHKDA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Devil OC Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($784.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case  ($206.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: LG 27GL83A-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1671.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-05 08:19 EDT-0400

[Sapphire Storm]

Thanks for all the recommendations!

 

Yes, I already have the CPU and Motherboard, I got them as a bundle at Micro Center for $349.99. It's still within the return period if I need to make changes.

 

Couple of questions:

1. If the SN770 and a refurbished Samsung 980 Pro were the same price, which one should I get?

2. LG 27GL83A-B vs Dell 27” S2721DGF vs GIGABYTE M27Q-PRO on sale now for $249.99?

3. Should I buy a used graphics card like a 3080, a new one, or wait for the 7000 series to be released in December?

4. AIO or air cooler? I went with an air cooler because I don't know much about water cooling and air coolers seem to last longer but I can try to figure an AIO out if they deliver much better performance.

5. Finally, is there a way I can find out how all the parts go together? This is my first build and I'm a bit confused even though I watched a few videos, they don't really explain how the wires and everything go together and I'm afraid of messing something up.

Thanks!

[Sapphire Storm]

21 hours ago, Dukesilver27- said:

RX 6950 XT instead of 6900 XT, cheaper too, whats up with that.

Price is different on Amazon, for some reason.

[GeorgeMKane]

16 hours ago, Sapphire Storm said:

Thanks for all the recommendations!

 

Yes, I already have the CPU and Motherboard, I got them as a bundle at Micro Center for $349.99. It's still within the return period if I need to make changes.

 

Couple of questions:

1. If the SN770 and a refurbished Samsung 980 Pro were the same price, which one should I get?

2. LG 27GL83A-B vs Dell 27” S2721DGF vs GIGABYTE M27Q-PRO on sale now for $249.99?

3. Should I buy a used graphics card like a 3080, a new one, or wait for the 7000 series to be released in December?

4. AIO or air cooler? I went with an air cooler because I don't know much about water cooling and air coolers seem to last longer but I can try to figure an AIO out if they deliver much better performance.

5. Finally, is there a way I can find out how all the parts go together? This is my first build and I'm a bit confused even though I watched a few videos, they don't really explain how the wires and everything go together and I'm afraid of messing something up.

Thanks!

1. SN770. I wouldn't trust a refurbished SSD. Plus, it's lifespan is down already.
2. The LG or Gigabyte one. Can almost guarantee that the Dell monitor is a TN panel, and those are horrible for gaming.
3. New one.
4. Air cooler. Great performance for less price, less maintenance, and less worry.
5. Youtube. JayzTwoCents, LinusTechTips, and Bitwit have guides. I think even Terry Crews said he used Bitwit's PC building guides, but don't quote me on that one.

[Dukesilver27-]

2 minutes ago, GeorgeMKane said:

1. The LG or Gigabyte one. Can almost guarantee that the Dell monitor is a TN panel, and those are horrible for gaming.

It's IPS, a quick google search would tell you that.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2721dgf

 

OP, just select which ever is fits your criteria, if you care more for color reproduction, then pick the one with best color gamut and accuracy, or if you care more about response time, then go with the fastest response time.

Go to this website for the insights of each monitor. rtings.com

[Dukesilver27-]

16 hours ago, Sapphire Storm said:

Thanks for all the recommendations!

 

Yes, I already have the CPU and Motherboard, I got them as a bundle at Micro Center for $349.99. It's still within the return period if I need to make changes.

 

Couple of questions:

1. If the SN770 and a refurbished Samsung 980 Pro were the same price, which one should I get?

2. LG 27GL83A-B vs Dell 27” S2721DGF vs GIGABYTE M27Q-PRO on sale now for $249.99?

3. Should I buy a used graphics card like a 3080, a new one, or wait for the 7000 series to be released in December?

4. AIO or air cooler? I went with an air cooler because I don't know much about water cooling and air coolers seem to last longer but I can try to figure an AIO out if they deliver much better performance.

5. Finally, is there a way I can find out how all the parts go together? This is my first build and I'm a bit confused even though I watched a few videos, they don't really explain how the wires and everything go together and I'm afraid of messing something up.

Thanks!

1. SN770, new SSD is better.

2. Answered on the above post.

3. If you accept the risks of getting used cards, why not, they are better bang for buck. I bought a used RX 6800 XT about 4 months ago.

4. Great air coolers could rival great AIOs, and air cooler is much more reliable.

5.

 

[podkall]

22 hours ago, Dukesilver27- said:

I was summoned here.

Higher quality PSU, multi rail, FYR https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Better 1440p display, you don't want to cheap out on displays man, it's literally the window to your games, what your eyes see.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gp850-b

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/97htqm

 

On 11/5/2022 at 10:19 AM, GeorgeMKane said:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWq3Mb

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7CRkyK

 

Perhaps my additonal notes could help?:

 

16 hours ago, Sapphire Storm said:

Thanks for all the recommendations!

 

Yes, I already have the CPU and Motherboard, I got them as a bundle at Micro Center for $349.99. It's still within the return period if I need to make changes.

 

Couple of questions:

1. If the SN770 and a refurbished Samsung 980 Pro were the same price, which one should I get?

2. LG 27GL83A-B vs Dell 27” S2721DGF vs GIGABYTE M27Q-PRO on sale now for $249.99?

3. Should I buy a used graphics card like a 3080, a new one, or wait for the 7000 series to be released in December?

4. AIO or air cooler? I went with an air cooler because I don't know much about water cooling and air coolers seem to last longer but I can try to figure an AIO out if they deliver much better performance.

5. Finally, is there a way I can find out how all the parts go together? This is my first build and I'm a bit confused even though I watched a few videos, they don't really explain how the wires and everything go together and I'm afraid of messing something up.

Thanks!

 

2. Monitors specs links:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M27Q-P/sp#sp

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gl83a-b-gaming-monitor

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2721dgf/apd/210-axeh/monitors-monitor-accessories

 

3. 3070ti vs 3080 those are close in performance, the 3080 is obviously better sometimes offering significant performance boost, but remember not all Ultra graphics are really noticable..

 

4. Coolers differ, but Air coolers can be as good as AIOs sometimes better or even quieter (I think)

 

5. You can search benchmarks of different CPUs and GPUs on youtube

do keep in mind though that sometimes these benchmarks for example compare 2 CPUs but use the fastest available RAM and GPU which means if you get something slower the framerates might not add up

 

here's an example of benchmark video: (some benchmarks aren't accurate and are only for giving you idea of how well the gear performs - that is because if you compare 2 shooter benchmarks but in one there is less action there will be obviously easier for the GPU with less action going on to create more fps)

 

Video with commentary:

 

Video without commentary, pure benchmarks:

 

I have seem to misread the last 5th question.

Edited November 6, 2022 by podkall
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[Guest]

On 11/5/2022 at 9:19 AM, GeorgeMKane said:

Cheaper, much better cpu cooler, and I went with a 980 Pro so you can carry that over easier to the next build. I also went with a 3070Ti instead.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWq3Mb

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.78 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($619.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  ($169.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.95 @ B&H) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Prisma AL 85.71 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($27.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Samsung S27AG50 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($249.99 @ Best Buy) 
$1677.62

 

With some modifications, you can get a RTX 3080 instead.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7CRkyK

In what way is it a better cooler ?

 

Also why did you change the gpu ? The 6900XT is faster than a 3070 ti/3080.