Mobo for 13700k

[enricop00]

I wanted to know if it's still possible to oc on b660 with a 13700k, since I would like to be able to overclock my cpu but z690 prices are getting kinda crazy here in Italy/europe in general (280 for an msi pro z690-a wifi rn) while I can still find decent b660 for a kinda decent price (asus strix b660-f for 260ish)

 

I knew that you could use this board to overclock non k 12th gen intel cpus and I wanted to know if the same thing could be done also on the 13700k and eventually if it was significantly worse or basically the same as overclocking on a z690 board

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

10 minutes ago, enricop00 said:

I wanted to know if it's still possible to oc on b660 with a 13700k, since I would like to be able to overclock my cpu but z690 prices are getting kinda crazy here in Italy/europe in general (280 for an msi pro z690-a wifi rn) while I can still find decent b660 for a kinda decent price (asus strix b660-f for 260ish)

 

I knew that you could use this board to overclock non k 12th gen intel cpus and I wanted to know if the same thing could be done also on the 13700k and eventually if it was significantly worse or basically the same as overclocking on a z690 board

13700k is kind of in no mans land this gen.

 

13600k is the move.

 

Also, those board prices are garbage. Can you buy from the US and use one of those forwarding services? Might be significantly cheaper still.

[Lord Szechenyi]

[Mister Woof]

2 hours ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

13700k is kind of in no mans land this gen.

 

13600k is the move.

 

Also, those board prices are garbage. Can you buy from the US and use one of those forwarding services? Might be significantly cheaper still.

I'll have to disagree with you there. The 13700k is the real top end chip this gen, it gives you equal gaming performance to the 13900k since it has the same 8 p core configuration. When clocked the same, they perform the same.

 

The 13600k will reach a point where Overclocking won't overcome the lack of 2 cores and their associated 6mb L3 cache.

 

On the same token, it's less expensive and punches above it's price class in production, usually beating the 7900x and often nearly matching the 7950x. 

 

The 13600k does much the same vs the 7600x and 7700x, I'll agree, but the 13700k is by no means a bad product or unattainable. It is one of the best gaming CPUs out there as well as being very very strong in other tasks relative to the competition.

 

The 13900k on the other hand.....not quite 11900k levels of bad, but it's just not worth it when the 13700k exists.

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

3 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I'll have to disagree with you there. The 13700k is the real top end chip this gen, it gives you equal gaming performance to the 13900k since it has the same 8 p core configuration. When clocked the same, they perform the same.

 

The 13600k will reach a point where Overclocking won't overcome the lack of 2 cores and their associated 6mb L3 cache.

 

On the same token, it's less expensive and punches above it's price class in production, usually beating the 7900x and often nearly matching the 7950x. 

 

The 13600k does much the same vs the 7600x and 7700x, I'll agree, but the 13700k is by no means a bad product or unattainable. It is one of the best gaming CPUs out there as well as being very very strong in other tasks relative to the competition.

 

The 13900k on the other hand.....not quite 11900k levels of bad, but it's just not worth it when the 13700k exists.

Don't get me wrong, the 13700k is incredible, I just don't think it's worth like $130 more than the 13600k. At that point I would rather have a 7700x and AM5 for platform longevity. The killer thing about the 13600k is really it's price 

[Mister Woof]

12 minutes ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

Don't get me wrong, the 13700k is incredible, I just don't think it's worth like $130 more than the 13600k. At that point I would rather have a 7700x and AM5 for platform longevity. The killer thing about the 13600k is really it's price 

Eh, it's all relative.

 

In 2017 I paid $379 for a 6-core 8700k.

 

The $439 price on the 13700K doesn't even account for inflation.

 

And then considering the 13700K defeats the 7700k at pretty much everything (gaming overall higher or at least general parity, completely outclassed in production) at around the same price when you factor in platform costs....it's just by no means "no man's land."

 

As far as platform upgrade path, that's not as useful for everyone. Singular CPU upgrades for my application would be useless because I always just re-use all my old stuff and would need a motherboard and memory anyway. See my list of systems to see how things have just shifted down over the years. 

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

2 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Eh, it's all relative.

 

In 2017 I paid $379 for a 6-core 8700k.

 

The $439 price on the 13700K doesn't even account for inflation.

 

And then considering the 13700K defeats the 7700k at pretty much everything (gaming overall higher or at least general parity, completely outclassed in production) at around the same price when you factor in platform costs....it's just by no means "no man's land."

 

As far as platform upgrade path, that's not as useful for everyone. Singular CPU upgrades for my application would be useless because I always just re-use all my old stuff and would need a motherboard and memory anyway. See my list of systems to see how things have just shifted down over the years. 

Yeah that makes a lot of sense then.

 

I am a million percent upgrading to a 3d cache chip myself. So the 7700x is just a $100 rental basically when I sell it for $300 when those come out 

[Mister Woof]

8 minutes ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

Yeah that makes a lot of sense then.

 

I am a million percent upgrading to a 3d cache chip myself. So the 7700x is just a $100 rental basically when I sell it for $300 when those come out 

I told myself I would wait for those.

 

But then....magic happened

 

Or curses. Not sure.

 

OP: This guy did some work on 13700k and 13600k and different motherboards and coolers. Seemed interesting. Review some of his videos to see what kind of results he had:

 

https://www.youtube.com/c/DavidNobleSports/videos

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

Just now, Shimmy Gummi said:

I told myself I would wait for those.

 

But then....magic happened

 

Or curses. Not sure.

The issue at first will be cost, I think. They will obviously be the best gaming cpus by a lot.

 

But the 7800x3d will likely be like ~$500-~$550? The 7950x3d will be like ~$1000 with a better bin too so it doesn't lose any clock speed? 

 

I think meteor lake will have some form of 3d stacking cache too. Intel hinted at it during an AMA on Reddit last week about 13th gen. I actually personally asked the question and they said something like "we can't reveal future plans, wink wink"

[Mister Woof]

Just now, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

The issue at first will be cost, I think. They will obviously be the best gaming cpus by a lot.

 

But the 7800x3d will likely be like ~$500-~$550? The 7950x3d will be like ~$1000 with a better bin too so it doesn't lose any clock speed? 

 

I think meteor lake will have some form of 3d stacking cache too. Intel hinted at it during an AMA on Reddit last week about 13th gen. I actually personally asked the question and they said something like "we can't reveal future plans, wink wink"

Meteor lake leaks show it leaning HARD into E-cores. To the detriment of P-cores being capped at 6. If that's true....ugh. 

 

I originally planned on a 13600K build but going down to a 6 P-core system from a "10" P-core system felt like regression, even if absolute performance was higher.

 

But hey I've also gone to chiropractors before so the placebo affect is not lost on me.

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

6 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Meteor lake leaks show it leaning HARD into E-cores. To the detriment of P-cores being capped at 6. If that's true....ugh. 

 

I originally planned on a 13600K build but going down to a 6 P-core system from a "10" P-core system felt like regression, even if absolute performance was higher.

 

But hey I've also gone to chiropractors before so the placebo affect is not lost on me.

Lol at your last joke. But Meteor Lake is DOA for gaming if that is true about capped at 6 P cores. It is HEAVILY rumored that Zen 5 is shuffling all the skus up a tier. 

 

For example:

Ryzen 5 9600x 8 core 16 thread

Ryzen 7 9700x 12 core 24 thread

Ryzen 9 9900x 16 core 32 thread

 

Then they are adding a whole new tier for the 9950x 

24 core 48 thread

 

If meteor 14700k or whatever is 6 p cores it is DOA even if it has like 100 e cores lol.

 

Zen 5 is a brand new architecture too like Zen 3 was, not just a node shrink like Zen 4