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Neckwell
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i currently have a awful hp prebuilt and i recently but some new ram
OLOy DDR4 RAM 16GB (2x8GB) 3200 MHz CL16 1.35V 288-Pin Desktop Gaming UDIMM (MD4U0832160BJ0DA): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
but the ram is running at 2133 and for some reason hp doesnt have xmp so i was wondering if there is another way i can upgrade the speed

 

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What are the rest of your components?  Is it some proprietary HP bios bullshit?  

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Most awful prebuilts won't allow you to run RAM at its full XMP speed. You're likely limited to that 2133.

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The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

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7 hours ago, ayzhien said:

i think you're permanently stuck with that speed but the better the ram speed isnt actually as majorly beneficial as you might think

i should i swap back to 8gb which was running at 2666 or just keep the ram and get a new motherboard 

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I recently bought 16gb 3200 ram but I have a awful hp prebuilt and that ram is the only running at 2133 because hp doesn’t allow xmp which is completely my fault for not looking but should I go back to 8gb at 2666   or stay with 16gb stuck at 2133 until I get a new motherboard performance wise which is better ?

 

ty for the help

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7 minutes ago, Neckwell said:

should I go back to 8gb at 2666   or stay with 16gb stuck at 2133

Depends on 2 factors:

  1. Is 8GB enough for what you do? A lot of the times the answer to this is no, but sometimes it is.
  2. Is the 8GB in 1x8GB or 2x4GB?
    1. If it's 1x8GB, dual channel all day every day.
    2. If it's 2x4GB, it depends on their organization. If they're 1Rx16 based modules (it should say somewhere on there if they're OEM modules), the 2x8GB setup is the better performance since 1Rx16 based modules have terrible performance and the 16GB kit is better. If they're 1Rx8, then the 2x4GB setup would be faster, and it just comes down to whether 8GB is enough for you. 
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2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Depends on 2 factors:

  1. Is 8GB enough for what you do? A lot of the times the answer to this is no, but sometimes it is.
  2. Is the 8GB in 1x8GB or 2x4GB?
    1. If it's 1x8GB, dual channel all day every day.
    2. If it's 2x4GB, it depends on their organization. If they're 1Rx16 based modules (it should say somewhere on there if they're OEM modules), the 2x8GB setup is the better performance since 1Rx16 based modules have terrible performance and the 16GB kit is better. If they're 1Rx8, then the 2x4GB setup would be faster, and it just comes down to whether 8GB is enough for you. 

The 8gb is 1 stick and 16gb is two 

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1 minute ago, Neckwell said:

The 8gb is 1 stick and 16gb is two 

Use the 2x8GB setup. It's just better in every way possible. 2x8GB would mean you will be running dual channel, which is effectively doubling the memory speed, so even though it's clocked 500MT/s slower, it will have significantly more memory bandwidth. 

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5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Use the 2x8GB setup. It's just better in every way possible. 2x8GB would mean you will be running dual channel, which is effectively doubling the memory speed, so even though it's clocked 500MT/s slower, it will have significantly more memory bandwidth. 

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