5000x case airflow help

[Fristelm]

Just bought a 3080 tuf, under load my core reaches 70c at 2300rpm on the fans and the mem reaches 96c. If I remove the side and front panel on my 570x, the core comes down to 64c and mem comes down to 90-92c. Gpu fans come down to 2100rpm as well. This is with 6 ll120s 3 intake 3 exhaust all running at 1200rpm. I want to upgrade my case for better airflow while keeping good looks so ive settled on the 5000x. (if you have any other suggestions let me know). Just wondering how good this case is for airflow, people who have it. My plan was 6 intake (3 side 3 front) and 3 exhaust 2 at the top and one at the rear. Will I see my GPU temps drop if I were to upgrade my case to the 5000x? I do not want the D version as the front mesh doesnt look the greatest.

[Poinkachu]

15 minutes ago, Randomizer23 said:

Just bought a 3080 tuf, under load my core reaches 70c at 2300rpm on the fans and the mem reaches 96c. If I remove the side and front panel on my 570x, the core comes down to 64c and mem comes down to 90-92c. Gpu fans come down to 2100rpm as well. This is with 6 ll120s 3 intake 3 exhaust all running at 1200rpm. I want to upgrade my case for better airflow while keeping good looks so ive settled on the 5000x. (if you have any other suggestions let me know). Just wondering how good this case is for airflow, people who have it. My plan was 6 intake (3 side 3 front) and 3 exhaust 2 at the top and one at the rear. Will I see my GPU temps drop if I were to upgrade my case to the 5000x? I do not want the D version as the front mesh doesnt look the greatest.

IMHO, Pitting the front fans against the side fans might only result in air crashing onto each other and not reaching your GPU effectively.

 

What's your room ambient temp btw ?

If you are not using AIO, I think Fractal Torrent is better in term of airflow.

[Fristelm]

8 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

IMHO, Pitting the front fans against the side fans might only result in air crashing onto each other and not reaching your GPU effectively.

 

What's your room ambient temp btw ?

If you are not using AIO, I think Fractal Torrent is better in term of airflow.

im using a 240mm aio that ill mount to the top. My ambient temp is 22c

[Poinkachu]

9 minutes ago, Randomizer23 said:

im using a 240mm aio that ill mount to the top. My ambient temp is 22c

Well then IMHO, your temp "problem" mainly caused by limited intake opening.
I quoted it because it's actually pretty normal for a 3080 mem to reach 90c range. IIRC, 3080 is notorious for it's vram temp.
TUF is one of the best in term of cooling.

 

Will 5000x helps? if it does, probably not much. Since it's also a pretty closed off front.
Me personally don't like the idea of side fans or Side + Front fans though.
Because what you want is a good amount of fresh cold air delivered to all sections of your GPU.

[Fristelm]

1 minute ago, Poinkachu said:

Well then IMHO, your temp "problem" mainly caused by limited intake opening.
I quoted it because it's actually pretty normal for a 3080 mem to reach 90c range. IIRC, 3080 is notorious for it's vram temp.
TUF is one of the best in term of cooling.

 

Will 5000x helps? if it does, probably not much. Since it's also a pretty closed off front.
Me personally don't like the idea of side fans or Side + Front fans though.
What you want is a good amount of fresh cold air delivered to all sections of your GPU.

Welp fuck. I want a sexy case but also good airflow... There has to be a solution? Ive had my case for 6 years and its time for an upgrade, lower GPU temps too never hurt. Oh btw, is my mem reaching 96c dangerous?

[Poinkachu]

9 minutes ago, Randomizer23 said:

Welp fuck. I want a sexy case but also good airflow... There has to be a solution? Ive had my case for 6 years and its time for an upgrade, lower GPU temps too never hurt. Oh btw, is my mem reaching 96c dangerous?

Max is 110c IIRC. So not really.
Ideally though, you want to keep it at atleast low 90s, especially so since TUF model cooler is capable of it.

 

The solution to a limited airflow by a panel / glass, is either make more opening for air to flow in, or find other opening.

[Fristelm]

4 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Max is 110c IIRC. So not really.
Ideally though, you want to keep it at atleast low 90s, especially so since TUF model cooler is capable of it.

 

The solution to a limited airflow by a panel / glass, is either make more opening for air to flow in, or find other opening.

Soooo, what case do you suggest that looks good and performs good? I heard the 5000x isnt bad though.

[Poinkachu]

7 minutes ago, Randomizer23 said:

Soooo, what case do you suggest that looks good and performs good? I heard the 5000x isnt bad though.

Dunno what to suggest to you tbh. I'm a mesh front guy + filter, because I live in a dusty country.

And I don't really give a crap about front looks as long as I can keep my parts cool.

 

I'm not saying 5000x is bad, I just don't see the point of moving from a limited intake opening, to a limited intake opening in order to solve a thermal "problem".

[Fristelm]

32 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Dunno what to suggest to you tbh. I'm a mesh front guy + filter, because I live in a dusty country.

And I don't really give a crap about front looks as long as I can keep my parts cool.

 

I'm not saying 5000x is bad, I just don't see the point of moving from a limited intake opening, to a limited intake opening in order to solve a thermal "problem".

Because theres a side mesh for fans, but as you say it will impede airflow.

[Poinkachu]

10 hours ago, Randomizer23 said:

Because theres a side mesh for fans, but as you say it will impede airflow.

Never used side fans before.
But by my own logic, and to put it simply :
Air sucked in by side fans, thrown inside the case straight to side glass panel & lose momentum.
Some will reach 1st GPU fan and being used for cooling.

There's a chance that the 2nd GPU fan won't get adequate amount of fresh air, and it will begin sucking & recirculating the hot air expelled by both gpu fans.

Whereas with front fan :
Air sucked in by side fans, thrown inside the case straight to :
Bottom & Middle fan = GPU

Both fans will get an adequate amount of air to be sucked & used for cooling.

 

[TVwazhere]

On 9/27/2022 at 4:44 AM, Poinkachu said:

Never used side fans before.

As a case study (heh) the O11D was one of the first side intake cases to ever be thoroughly and widely reviewed for thermal performance and it performs very well, though that comes usually with bottom intake fans as well. 

 

I think a 5000X with side intake fans and front fans mainly for looks would be fine. However 70ºC on a 3080 is already pretty good. My (feeling measly) 1080ti hits that and it draws in it's own fresh air from a vented side panel in my 380T. 

[Fristelm]

40 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

As a case study (heh) the O11D was one of the first side intake cases to ever be thoroughly and widely reviewed for thermal performance and it performs very well, though that comes usually with bottom intake fans as well. 

 

I think a 5000X with side intake fans and front fans mainly for looks would be fine. However 70ºC on a 3080 is already pretty good. My (feeling measly) 1080ti hits that and it draws in it's own fresh air from a vented side panel in my 380T. 

Well yes, 70c is good, but considering when I remove all the panels it drops to 65c, there is room for improvement. I’m just not sure if the 5000x with front and wide intake is superior to o11 bottom and side Intake, I really only care for gpu temps

[TVwazhere]

4 minutes ago, Randomizer23 said:

Well yes, 70c is good, but considering when I remove all the panels it drops to 65c, there is room for improvement. 

This is true for 99% of cases on the market though. You will still likely experience a temp drop even in a 5000X when removing the side panel. Only a handful of cases that blow air directly and forcefully into the GPU will increase in temps due to the front or side panel being removed since the air is no longer be funneled directly into the GPU, and the only one that comes to mind is the Torrent. 

[Fristelm]

14 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

This is true for 99% of cases on the market though. You will still likely experience a temp drop even in a 5000X when removing the side panel. Only a handful of cases that blow air directly and forcefully into the GPU will increase in temps due to the front or side panel being removed since the air is no longer be funneled directly into the GPU, and the only one that comes to mind is the Torrent. 

So will I notice a temp decrease going from the 570x to a o11 or 5000x? And which of these two cases offer better airflow if I’m doing 6 intake front side on 5000x, and 3 side 3 bottom intake on o11?

[TVwazhere]

22 minutes ago, Randomizer23 said:

And which of these two cases offer better airflow if I’m doing 6 intake front side on 5000x, and 3 side 3 bottom intake on o11?

In a typical GPU orientation, any case with bottom intake fans will outperform front mounted fans simply because fans are blowing directly into the face of the card. Keep in mind the original O11D have a CPU tower clearance of 155mm, and the EVO is 167mm. 

[Fristelm]

14 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

In a typical GPU orientation, any case with bottom intake fans will outperform front mounted fans simply because fans are blowing directly into the face of the card. Keep in mind the original O11D have a CPU tower clearance of 155mm, and the EVO is 167mm. 

I’m running a 240mm aio that I will mount to the top, so, would you say to choose the o11 evo over the 5000x? Will my temps improve?

[TVwazhere]

3 hours ago, Randomizer23 said:

Will my temps improve?

Possibly, but IMO I wouldn't worry about it that much. I honestly don't think a <5º change in temps is worth an entire case swap.

[Fristelm]

1 hour ago, TVwazhere said:

Possibly, but IMO I wouldn't worry about it that much. I honestly don't think a <5º change in temps is worth an entire case swap.

Well, I was changing out my case anyway because I had this one for 6 years and want to change it up a bit, so I figured id take airflow into account. I just dont know if I should choose the 5000x or o11 dynamic, I was planning the o11 dynamic XL as that is close in size to my current 570x (I think?). Which case offers better thermals though?

[TVwazhere]

Just now, Randomizer23 said:

Well, I was changing out my case anyway because I had this one for 6 years and want to change it up a bit, so I figured id take airflow into account. I just dont know if I should choose the 5000x or o11 dynamic, I was planning the o11 dynamic XL as that is close in size to my current 570x (I think?). Which case offers better thermals though?

No one does case thermal reviews better than GN. The case review is the 5000D with the solid panel, which is similar to the 5000X, just not glass.

 

[Fristelm]

33 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

No one does case thermal reviews better than GN. The case review is the 5000D with the solid panel, which is similar to the 5000X, just not glass.

 

Yea I saw these but they’re config isn’t what im planning to do so there’s not really a way to see off these two videos.

[TVwazhere]

16 minutes ago, Randomizer23 said:

Yea I saw these but they’re config isn’t what im planning to do so there’s not really a way to see off these two videos.

Since you're most concerned with GPU temps, the O11D, XL or EVO would be your best bet.

[Fristelm]

14 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Since you're most concerned with GPU temps, the O11D, XL or EVO would be your best bet.

Thanks, guess ill go with that over the 5000x. The bottom intake fans must really help with the GPU right? Also does the 5000x look weird with 3 120mm fans mounted on the side and front? I know its a big case, I just dont know what the shroud is made to fit whether thats 140mm or 120.