Stuck with 2133Mhz RAM, OC doesn't work anymore.

[Exaco]

Hi there, so I've noticed that my Memory OC isn't applied anymore, it runs at 2133Mhz, even in BIOS it's set to 3200Mhz ( or around that ), if I change something then BIOS will fail and do like 4 boot cycles and it will still be set to what I've set before but the RAM will run at the default 2133Mhz. 

Before it worked just fine I even managed to boot with 3600Mhz years ago ( +600Mhz @ 1.35V ) without too much of stability issues, but now it's not working anymore at all, I tried BIOS update including Ryzen DRAM Calculator but basically if the BIOS doesn't go into boot cycle/loop then Windows 11 itself won't boot giving BSOD. Tried using Windows Memory Diagnostic nothing was wrong ( will try MemTest later ).

I think it started after cleaning the dust from PC but not sure since it did that boot cycle after I turned it on. More likely it's damaged RAM or something like that but still I have no clue. Any ideas what it could be ?

Specs:
R5 2600
ASRock B450 Gaming K4 ( 5.30 BIOS )
Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3000Mhz ( Corsair CMK16GX4M2D3000C16 )

SOLVED: 
I've decided to test these sticks one by one, at first it didn't work with single one, then I tried another one in another slot and I managed to boot with 3Ghz into OS, then I thought one of my sticks are faulty, but tested that one again in a "working" slot and it worked too, so basically installed both sticks and not everything is fine, hopefully it will last.
 

[191x7]

Please update to 5.31 although it mentions that it's a beta, agesa 1.2.0.7 is way better than the 1.2.0.6 even when it comes to memory compatibility.

 

As for the XMP and clocks, Zen+ isn't really known for stability over 3000 or 3200, in most cases it's fine with 2933.

Try running XMP 3000 with voltage 1.3500V after you're on Agesa 1207.

[Exaco]

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

Please update to 5.31 although it mentions that it's a beta, agesa 1.2.0.7 is way better than the 1.2.0.6 even when it comes to memory compatibility.

 

As for the XMP and clocks, Zen+ isn't really known for stability over 3000 or 3200, in most cases it's fine with 2933.

Try running XMP 3000 with voltage 1.3500V after you're on Agesa 1207.

100% sure it's not the BIOS, because it was working just fine before. Also after BIOS flash I will have to reinstall OS again without the option to use Clonezilla backup, since it changes TPM security key I believe, at least that's what happened before, no regedit TPM bypass tricks nothing helped to sign in into OS, had to go and "Reset this PC" with OS drive wipe as the one with "Keep my files" didn't work and still kept me locked out.

Update: Memtest86 8 errors in 2min with DRAM Calculator settings @ 3000Mhz 
 

[191x7]

31 minutes ago, Exaco said:

100% sure it's not the BIOS, because it was working just fine before. Also after BIOS flash I will have to reinstall OS again without the option to use Clonezilla backup, since it changes TPM security key I believe, at least that's what happened before, no regedit TPM bypass tricks nothing helped to sign in into OS, had to go and "Reset this PC" with OS drive wipe as the one with "Keep my files" didn't work and still kept me locked out.

Update: Memtest86 8 errors in 2min with DRAM Calculator settings @ 3000Mhz 
 

 

Wait, did you use BitLocker drive encryption? Or what?

Updating the bios doesn't change stuff that would prevent you from entering the Bios unless you've changed something else from the default.

For example, Secure Boot or Legacy Boot, if those were set differently you'd have to enter Safe Mode once and then the regular boot would work...

[Exaco]

5 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Wait, did you use BitLocker drive encryption? Or what?

Updating the bios doesn't change stuff that would prevent you from entering the Bios unless you've changed something else from the default.

For example, Secure Boot or Legacy Boot, if those were set differently you'd have to enter Safe Mode once and then the regular boot would work...

No. After BIOS Update I was unable to sign in into Windows nor setup a new PIN ( it said No internet when trying to login to MS Account even if it was on, probably firewall was blocking it since I use Portmaster with "prompt" global rule ), tried looking up for various solutions since I still had access to recovery mode and cmd/regedit, but nothing really worked so I decided to do a reset which helped. BIOS were fine all the time.

That's what I got straight after BIOS Update ( fTPM and Secure Boot was obviously on ) also same was in Safe Mode, ofc I bet there was a solution but after like hour of searching had no luck so decided to not waste the time.

[191x7]

46 minutes ago, Exaco said:

No. After BIOS Update I was unable to sign in into Windows nor setup a new PIN ( it said No internet when trying to login to MS Account even if it was on, probably firewall was blocking it since I use Portmaster with "prompt" global rule ), tried looking up for various solutions since I still had access to recovery mode and cmd/regedit, but nothing really worked so I decided to do a reset which helped. BIOS were fine all the time.

That's what I got straight after BIOS Update ( fTPM and Secure Boot was obviously on ) also same was in Safe Mode, ofc I bet there was a solution but after like hour of searching had no luck so decided to not waste the time.

 

Interesting, haven't seen that yet.

Are you certain the new bios flash would do the same? AGESA 1207 is a huge upgrade, chek it out.

[Exaco]

11 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Interesting, haven't seen that yet.

Are you certain the new bios flash would do the same? AGESA 1207 is a huge upgrade, chek it out.

I think after flashing new BIOS it changes something like fTPM 2.0 security key or cert so Win11 doesn't recognize it anymore. Maybe I would've managed to simply change the PIN and sign in without much issues if it didn't had firewall which likely blocked that MS Login.

Anyway seems like I've solved the problem by testing single sticks in different slots which is a bit weird cause the way it sits now working ( A2/B2 ) I had installed them before like that did some switching multiple times between A1/B1 and A2/B2 which makes not much sense but glad it works. Maybe there was some pin contact issues?

Will check out the AGESA 1207 too.

[191x7]

16 minutes ago, Exaco said:

I think after flashing new BIOS it changes something like fTPM 2.0 security key or cert so Win11 doesn't recognize it anymore. Maybe I would've managed to simply change the PIN and sign in without much issues if it didn't had firewall which likely blocked that MS Login.

Anyway seems like I've solved the problem by testing single sticks in different slots which is a bit weird cause the way it sits now working ( A2/B2 ) I had installed them before like that did some switching multiple times between A1/B1 and A2/B2 which makes not much sense but glad it works. Maybe there was some pin contact issues?

Will check out the AGESA 1207 too.

I've flashed my Bioses multiple times on multiple boards, even different computers (I do IT in a Hospital) and never came up with such an issue.

I would be interested if it's a one-of or something that actually repeats and in finding the steps to solve it.

[Exaco]

51 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

I've flashed my Bioses multiple times on multiple boards, even different computers (I do IT in a Hospital) and never came up with such an issue.

I would be interested if it's a one-of or something that actually repeats and in finding the steps to solve it.

It's only Windows 11 thing afaik because of all these TPM 2.0 requirements and the Win11 PIN info could be stored in the BIOS TPM. So after BIOS update it likely loses it and tries to verify user again but it might not be the case on all motherboards, maybe it can also be configured so it keeps the info. Of course if you flash BIOS and then install OS nothing like that will happen.

[191x7]

1 hour ago, Exaco said:

It's only Windows 11 thing afaik because of all these TPM 2.0 requirements and the Win11 PIN info could be stored in the BIOS TPM. So after BIOS update it likely loses it and tries to verify user again but it might not be the case on all motherboards, maybe it can also be configured so it keeps the info. Of course if you flash BIOS and then install OS nothing like that will happen.

But I'm on 11 since maybe a month or two after it came out. On multiple systems.

Was maybe your CSM turned on? Shure that you're not using drive encryption / Bitlocker?