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Hello.

I found a new Zotac Mini PC, MAGNUS EN072070S with a i7-10750H and a nVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER, to be exact, for really cheap.

I want to ask people around here, is this a good choice for a home gaming PC? I have a 1050ti and a i5 3470 now, and its incredibly hard to find anything better than that around where I am. It's for less than the price of that GPU, and with RAM and storage, counted all together.

What are your thoughts? Is this a good buy? I know its hella better than mine now, but are thermals an issue with it? Or any other bad things going around those mini PCs? I dont mind playing with lower graphics for the sake of 1080p high fps.

 

Thanks.

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If you can get it cheaper than a normal size PC, it'll work but I wouldn't personally choose a mini PC.

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I have always used a Mini PC just because space is at a premium in my office. But you should keep in mind that you'll get a bit worse performance than you'd expect from the same components in a larger case with more airflow. 

 

So take a look at the performance characteristics of laptops with this CPU, GPU, and RAM combo as well as full sized desktops and you can get something of a feel for what to expect. 

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On 9/5/2022 at 6:46 PM, VirusWar said:

Hello.

I found a new Zotac Mini PC, MAGNUS EN072070S with a i7-10750H and a nVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER, to be exact, for really cheap.

I want to ask people around here, is this a good choice for a home gaming PC? I have a 1050ti and a i5 3470 now, and its incredibly hard to find anything better than that around where I am. It's for less than the price of that GPU, and with RAM and storage, counted all together.

What are your thoughts? Is this a good buy? I know its hella better than mine now, but are thermals an issue with it? Or any other bad things going around those mini PCs? I dont mind playing with lower graphics for the sake of 1080p high fps.

 

Thanks.

Whats the price? Keep in mind this is a laptop in a desktop basically. It also seems to have trouble handling the heatload so expect even lower performance than normal.

 

Best compared would be about a desktop rtx2060 + ryzen 2600 which are systems that go for about 5-600$.

 

So unless you really need this mini pc Id not get it as you'll end up with a not upgradeable piece of hardware where the cpu will still be good but the gpu will start lacking. Also doesnt help it overheats day 1.

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Rtx 2060 costs around 800usd here, so that calculation Is out of the window.

The store I'm following has some kind of a all out sale for zotac, idk why, but all their stuff is dirt cheap. From 1500usd down to 800usd (Still almost half over my salary)...

I found ZBOX-ECM53060C-BE also really cheap and I am now thinking about that. It's a full size GPU from what I can see and should be much better at cooling compared to the one I posted in the OP.

Thoughts?

 

Thanks for all the answers 

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