Help Guys Please!

[Ryner]

he guys so basically i was building my dream pc in pcpartspicker. I was building this pc to be my future gaming pc and it had to be just prefect. So basically i was building on pc parts picker and i was using a ryzen 9 5950x and a 3090 ti but when i added 4400 mhz cl 16 ram it said that my cpu couldnt handel that much voltage "well it said above recommended", so i downgraded and bit and i went to Trident Z neos wih 3800mhz and cl 14 and its saying those are over voltage too. this is what it was exactly saying.  "The G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3800 CL14 Memory operating voltage of 1.5 V exceeds the AMD Zen 3 CPU recommended maximum of 1350 mv+7% (1444.5 mv). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1350 mv voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the AMD recommended maximum". So Please help me Thank you

[BiotechBen]

To get blistering speeds, you gotta push a ton of voltage. AMD recommends not running above 1.35v, I've personally gone above that and had no real issues. The same way that PBO goes above and beyond the recommended voltages by AMD and is an "overclock" that "may shorten the life of your CPU" and that they are not responsible for high voltages shortening a cups life.

[BiotechBen]

Also, can you please not use basically so frequently? Maybe add some variety?

[Semper]

Very first thing I think you need to to is take a step back and understand what you're building.

To me it looks like you're falling for the classic "bigger number is more gooder". It is not. That 5950x very specifically in most situations offers no advantage. In some situations, it's actively a negative. In all situations, it's significantly overpriced for what you're getting out of it for a gaming rig.

Much the same for the 3090ti. You're paying a very heavy premium for an underwhelming performance uplift.

Now, with both of those out of the way, 4400 and 3800 are going to operate fairly similarly for a gaming rig. Both are outside the JEDEC rated speeds, and will require increased voltage. A quality board will be able to handle the added stress, however do note that any overclocking and particularly overvolting are added stress, heat, and wear and tear over time.

[Ryner]

3 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

To get blistering speeds, you gotta push a ton of voltage. AMD recommends not running above 1.35v, I've personally gone above that and had no real issues. The same way that PBO goes above and beyond the recommended voltages by AMD and is an "overclock" that "may shorten the life of your CPU" and that they are not responsible for high voltages shortening a cups life.

well do you think that if i use more ram voltage than recommended than i will have long term effects on my pc and also thanks for the advice of not using basically a lot of times!

[Ryner]

3 minutes ago, Semper said:

Very first thing I think you need to to is take a step back and understand what you're building.

To me it looks like you're falling for the classic "bigger number is more gooder". It is not. That 5950x very specifically in most situations offers no advantage. In some situations, it's actively a negative. In all situations, it's significantly overpriced for what you're getting out of it for a gaming rig.

Much the same for the 3090ti. You're paying a very heavy premium for an underwhelming performance uplift.

Now, with both of those out of the way, 4400 and 3800 are going to operate fairly similarly for a gaming rig. Both are outside the JEDEC rated speeds, and will require increased voltage. A quality board will be able to handle the added stress, however do note that any overclocking and particularly overvolting are added stress, heat, and wear and tear over time.

If i do want to do along with the plan first what cpu and graphics card do u recommend to get the same high fps and 0 bottle neck and also which mother board should i get for the 5950x which can handel the ram

 

[Ryner]

Do you guys also think if i get that ram that my pc will die quicker if so i am having second thought because i want very fast ram and my pc to run super quick but at the same time i dont want it to die sooo quick.

[Ryner]

And At the end do you guys think it would be fine if i just go along with the plan and get the ram. putting the price aside because that is no problem to me and go along with the build. and btw my mother is a Asus Rog Strix x570-E Wifi

[Semper]

17 minutes ago, Ryner said:

If i do want to do along with the plan first what cpu and graphics card do u recommend to get the same high fps and 0 bottle neck and also which mother board should i get for the 5950x which can handel the ram

 

AMD's Zen 4 is shortly around the corner. If you're absolutely adamant about the best of the best, wait it out.
Realistically, a 5800x3D is competing for top CPU for gaming right now. it will be plenty capable for many years to come. It carries a reasonably heavy price tag though. A standard 5800x, or even a 5600x is plenty capable. Again, both of these will also be plenty capable for years to come.

As far as GPU goes, realistically, the upper limit of RTX 3000 generation value-for-performance is the 3080. The 3080Ti, 3090, and 3090Ti all carry an ever increasing premium for an ever diminishing return on investment.

Based upon the statement "high fps and 0 bottle neck", I think you need to understand how computers work. No matter the combination of components, you will have a bottleneck somewhere. There is no combination of hardware that exists today which will run in perfect parity. It's also a lot more complex than, as I said, "bigger number is more gooder". A high clock speed and loose timings on a memory set can negatively impact you over a lower clock speed with tighter timings. You also have to take into consideration infinity fabric timings, as they will play a role in limiting memory performance as well. I think you've some additional research and understanding that you need to do before you build your "dream" gaming system, least you buy components that actively diminish your experience whilst also costing more at the same time.

I've no right to tell you what yo do with your money, however "most money = best" is a thoroughly foolish stance. Equally as foolish to act upon. Making intelligent, informed decisions is how you spend your money wisely.

[Ryner]

8 minutes ago, Semper said:

AMD's Zen 4 is shortly around the corner. If you're absolutely adamant about the best of the best, wait it out.
Realistically, a 5800x3D is competing for top CPU for gaming right now. it will be plenty capable for many years to come. It carries a reasonably heavy price tag though. A standard 5800x, or even a 5600x is plenty capable. Again, both of these will also be plenty capable for years to come.

As far as GPU goes, realistically, the upper limit of RTX 3000 generation value-for-performance is the 3080. The 3080Ti, 3090, and 3090Ti all carry an ever increasing premium for an ever diminishing return on investment.

Based upon the statement "high fps and 0 bottle neck", I think you need to understand how computers work. No matter the combination of components, you will have a bottleneck somewhere. There is no combination of hardware that exists today which will run in perfect parity. It's also a lot more complex than, as I said, "bigger number is more gooder". A high clock speed and loose timings on a memory set can negatively impact you over a lower clock speed with tighter timings. You also have to take into consideration infinity fabric timings, as they will play a role in limiting memory performance as well. I think you've some additional research and understanding that you need to do before you build your "dream" gaming system, least you buy components that actively diminish your experience whilst also costing more at the same time.

I've no right to tell you what yo do with your money, however "most money = best" is a thoroughly foolish stance. Equally as foolish to act upon. Making intelligent, informed decisions is how you spend your money wisely.

So for the Zen 4 Cpus by AMD are they going to have better performance than the 5950x?