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[Guest]

I want to upgrade my laptop. However it's confusing to me which frequency should I chose. The model of the laptop is: Dell E7270. In the bios it says: 2133. However i can't find ram 2133 anywhere. Only 2600hz are sold. Is it going to cause issues?

2nd question. This laptop works only with ssd raid. Normal ssds under ahci wouldn't boot. Are ssd raid special or they are the same hardware. Thx

 

[mike_seps]

2133 is the base speed for DDR4.  All sticks will run at this speed, and anything over it is technically overclocking (Even xmp or DOCP) Should be able to grab two sticks of DDR4 ram of your choosing and drop them in there. Just be sure to replace both, and not just try to add another 8gb stick.

[FloRolf]

Can you explain the SSD Raid thing? Are there currently two or more SSD's in there? And are you trying to replace them or adding some more?

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, mike_seps said:

2133 is the base speed for DDR4.  All sticks will run at this speed, and anything over it is technically overclocking (Even xmp or DOCP) Should be able to grab two sticks of DDR4 ram of your choosing and drop them in there. Just be sure to replace both, and not just try to add another 8gb stick.

What is the reason for replacing both. They are kinda expensive here

[Guest]

1 minute ago, FloRolf said:

Can you explain the SSD Raid thing? Are there currently two or more SSD's in there? And are you trying to replace them or adding some more?

Dell E7270 has function in the bios. Ssd raid. It's like a newer version of ahci. Aside from that I don't know. I try to buy bigger ssd

[mike_seps]

2 minutes ago, GodofwarUk999 said:

What is the reason for replacing both. They are kinda expensive here

Any time you replace ram, you want them to be a matched set, as having one higher quality than the other with only hinder it and make it perform at the lower specs, if at all. There is a much better chance of things "just working" when you go with a proper two piece set.

[FloRolf]

2 minutes ago, GodofwarUk999 said:

Dell E7270 has function in the bios. Ssd raid. It's like a newer version of ahci. Aside from that I don't know. I try to buy bigger ssd

No, SSD Raid is RAID with SSD's. Unless you have two or more you don't have RAID. 

However replacing the existing SSD will obviously result in having to reinstall the OS.

 

 

1 minute ago, mike_seps said:

Any time you replace ram, you want them to be a matched set, as having one higher quality than the other with only hinder it and make it perform at the lower specs, if at all. There is a much better chance of things "just working" when you go with a proper two piece set.

I have never found any issues with mixing ram personally. Only, like you said, they will both perform at the speed of the slower stick. If money is a thing, try mixing first and if it doesn't work properly, get a second one. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, mike_seps said:

Any time you replace ram, you want them to be a matched set, as having one higher quality than the other with only hinder it and make it perform at the lower specs, if at all. There is a much better chance of things "just working" when you go with a proper two piece set.

I think that's true only for the high end machines like i9. Which have ram protection modules and bit verification. In i5 6th gen. Not that much 

[PDifolco]

Upgrading  a Dell laptop ?? Haha rather try to upgrade a Honda Civic to a sports car

I mean you won't gain much if ever you manage to upgrade something anyway

[Dedayog]

19 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Upgrading  a Dell laptop ?? Haha rather try to upgrade a Honda Civic to a sports car

I mean you won't gain much if ever you manage to upgrade something anyway

Upgrades for anything and everything.  Dell makes none of the components in that laptop, so what's the issue?

 

Btw, enjoy an upgraded Civic too

 

 

[MageTank]

56 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

No, SSD Raid is RAID with SSD's. Unless you have two or more you don't have RAID. 

However replacing the existing SSD will obviously result in having to reinstall the OS.

 

 

I have never found any issues with mixing ram personally. Only, like you said, they will both perform at the speed of the slower stick. If money is a thing, try mixing first and if it doesn't work properly, get a second one. 

Dell sometimes configures both their laptops and desktops as "RAID ready", meaning they are a single drive shipped with RAID enabled in the BIOS and Windows configured with a RAID controller driver, but not actually configured in a RAID with another drive.

 

1 hour ago, GodofwarUk999 said:

I want to upgrade my laptop. However it's confusing to me which frequency should I chose. The model of the laptop is: Dell E7270. In the bios it says: 2133. However i can't find ram 2133 anywhere. Only 2600hz are sold. Is it going to cause issues?

2nd question. This laptop works only with ssd raid. Normal ssds under ahci wouldn't boot. Are ssd raid special or they are the same hardware. Thx

 

You have two options when it comes to the drive. Throw a second SSD in and load the RAID driver into the boot.wim of your OS and proceed with the BIOS configured as it is now. The second option is to disable RAID, configure back to AHCI and reinstall the OS cleanly in AHCI with no RAID driver at all. Either option is suitable unless you actually want to configure a RAID.

 

Others have already correctly answered the RAM question so I'll leave it at that.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Dell sometimes configures both their laptops and desktops as "RAID ready", meaning they are a single drive shipped with RAID enabled in the BIOS and Windows configured with a RAID controller driver, but not actually configured in a RAID with another drive.

 

You have two options when it comes to the drive. Throw a second SSD in and load the RAID driver into the boot.wim of your OS and proceed with the BIOS configured as it is now. The second option is to disable RAID, configure back to AHCI and reinstall the OS cleanly in AHCI with no RAID driver at all. Either option is suitable unless you actually want to configure a RAID.

 

Others have already correctly answered the RAM question so I'll leave it at that.

What about the ram. Would 2 rams from different companies be in conflict?

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, GodofwarUk999 said:

What about the ram. Would 2 rams from different companies be in conflict?

It IS actually preferable to get similar sticks from one brand, but if the specs are the same then you should be fine.  Real world... most RAM works just fine.  Any cheap 2133 RAM will most likely be fine if you're worried about money.  Otherwise find out the brand and specs of the installed RAM and try to match it.

[MageTank]

2 minutes ago, GodofwarUk999 said:

What about the ram. Would 2 rams from different companies be in conflict?

The short answer is, possibly, but highly unlikely.

 

The long answer is; laptops such as yours will likely only operate at JEDEC defined speeds which all memory should be capable of. In desktop memory with loaded XMP overclocks this would be a concern as different memory IC's (integrated circuits) can cause instability if they require different secondary and tertiary timings for stability that would be trained incorrectly.

 

I would say the odds are in your favor when it comes to mixing laptop memory as their training algorithms are extremely loose by design and seldom ever deviate from JEDEC unless they are purpose built for gaming.

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Upgrades for anything and everything.  Dell makes none of the components in that laptop, so what's the issue?

 

Btw, enjoy an upgraded Civic too

 

 

Haha, then it's easier to upgrade a Civic  !

Dell does worse than that, they make build voluntarily crappy, uncompatible and unupgradable parts and BIOS software

[Guest]

2 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Haha, then it's easier to upgrade a Civic  !

Dell does worse than that, they make build voluntarily crappy, uncompatible and unupgradable parts and BIOS software

I actually enjoy Dell laptops a lot. They release bios updates even after 7 years. I updated my tpm from 1.2 to 2.0. without changing parts. Etc. 

Their security is really good. Compared to Asus. Who doesn't even enable secure boot. And gives you bare bones bios.

I'm torrenting all the time with 0 worries of getting doxed.

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, GodofwarUk999 said:

I actually enjoy Dell laptops a lot. They release bios updates even after 7 years. I updated my tpm from 1.2 to 2.0. without changing parts. Etc. 

Their security is really good. Compared to Asus. Who doesn't even enable secure boot. And gives you bare bones bios.

I'm torrenting all the time with 0 worries of getting doxed.

Huh then we don't share same beliefs I'm a follower of GN Steve!

Never used a Dell machine, never switched on TPM, but had no issues torrenting or even eMuleing before that!!