pc keeps crashing

[westly]

I keep running into a pc problem, with some corrupt error. I had an issue before where only one stick of ram was showing, I fixed it now its back to 1 stick. I have it in a2 b2, when I open up tarkov my pc will turn off or ill get the corrupt error. Any ideas? Or what component should I replace?

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, westly said:

I keep running into a pc problem, with some corrupt error. I had an issue before where only one stick of ram was showing, I fixed it now its back to 1 stick. I have it in a2 b2, when I open up tarkov my pc will turn off or ill get the corrupt error. Any ideas? Or what component should I replace?

There’s bits and pieces of info here but precious little actual  complete stuff.  Just hints.  Let’s start with the system specs.  Probably gonna need to know about that memory though as well as that error number.   Reading the pinned posts may also help.

[westly]

4 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

There’s bits and pieces of info here but precious little actual  complete stuff.  Just hints.  Let’s start with the system specs.  Probably gonna need to know about that memory though as well as that error number.   Reading the pinned posts may also help.

sorry you're right. I'm not sure about the error code, event viewer wouldn't tell me, when my pc crashes again I'll remember it. How do I check memory? I think I did windows memory diagnose. It came back clean. I have the mini dump file, but I have no idea how to open it.

[westly]

5 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

There’s bits and pieces of info here but precious little actual  complete stuff.  Just hints.  Let’s start with the system specs.  Probably gonna need to know about that memory though as well as that error number.   Reading the pinned posts may also help.

 

[westly]

[Bombastinator]

12 hours ago, westly said:

That’s a syntax thing.  You used the scan now flag without the actual command.  All scannow does is it’s an immediacy flag for the app that needs to be run.

[Bombastinator]

5 hours ago, westly said:

sorry you're right. I'm not sure about the error code, event viewer wouldn't tell me, when my pc crashes again I'll remember it. How do I check memory? I think I did windows memory diagnose. It came back clean. I have the mini dump file, but I have no idea how to open it.

The current best know checking app is a few full runs of memtest86.  If that come up clean memory stick problems become unlikely enough to search for other things.  If you don’t find anything else though the most sensitive test is one stick at a time.  It relies on it being quite unlikely that two stick would have gone bad at once.  It takes even longer than a few full runs of memtest86 though.

[westly]

4 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

The current best know checking app is a few full runs of memtest86.  If that come up clean memory stick problems become unlikely enough to search for other things.  If you don’t find anything else though the most sensitive test is one stick at a time.  It relies on it being quite unlikely that two stick would have gone bad at once.  It takes even longer than a few full runs of memtest86 though.

Ill try and use the memtest 86

 

[westly]

4 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

The current best know checking app is a few full runs of memtest86.  If that come up clean memory stick problems become unlikely enough to search for other things.  If you don’t find anything else though the most sensitive test is one stick at a time.  It relies on it being quite unlikely that two stick would have gone bad at once.  It takes even longer than a few full runs of memtest86 though.

It keeps crashing or something is going on. I followed the directions. It will get to like 70% then my pc will reboot. 

[Bombastinator]

2 hours ago, westly said:

It keeps crashing or something is going on. I followed the directions. It will get to like 70% then my pc will reboot. 

o.0

well that’s messed up.  I’ve never heard of that happening before.  Maybe check your logs to see why it’s rebooting. Windows also has one.  It’s just not terribly good. It actually defaults to run several times it’s so bad.  Might work for you if the other isn’t though.  The old school test doesn’t use a app at all though.  You just run with only one memory sticks for a while and see what happens.  If it crashes with one but not the other it could be a bad stick.  If it crashes with both the one and the other it’s a different problem.

[westly]

5 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

o.0

well that’s messed up.  I’ve never heard of that happening before.  Maybe check your logs to see why it’s rebooting. Windows also has one.  It’s just not terribly good. It actually defaults to run several times it’s so bad.  Might work for you if the other isn’t though.  The old school test doesn’t use a app at all though.  You just run with only one memory sticks for a while and see what happens.  If it crashes with one but not the other it could be a bad stick.  If it crashes with both the one and the other it’s a different problem.

I messed up, I did it with both rams sticks no errors. So my ram is good. 

[westly]

5 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

o.0

well that’s messed up.  I’ve never heard of that happening before.  Maybe check your logs to see why it’s rebooting. Windows also has one.  It’s just not terribly good. It actually defaults to run several times it’s so bad.  Might work for you if the other isn’t though.  The old school test doesn’t use a app at all though.  You just run with only one memory sticks for a while and see what happens.  If it crashes with one but not the other it could be a bad stick.  If it crashes with both the one and the other it’s a different problem.

How do I check Gpu and motherboard? Could it be a power problem?

[Bombastinator]

18 minutes ago, westly said:

How do I check Gpu and motherboard? Could it be a power problem?

“post” stands for “Power On Self Test” so the hardware gets checked at a basic level every time you start the machine.  It doesn’t test ALL of the motherboard, but it does the basic stuff.  

Re: power problem

Do the logs imply it’s a power problem? That can mess up both a motherboard and a gpu.  Because PSUs are cheap the common thing to do is just try a different bigger one rather than trying to diagnose one.  Diagnosing PSUs is frought with danger anyway because of the huge size of the capacitors.

[westly]

31 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

“post” stands for “Power On Self Test” so the hardware gets checked at a basic level every time you start the machine.  It doesn’t test ALL of the motherboard, but it does the basic stuff.  

Re: power problem

Do the logs imply it’s a power problem? That can mess up both a motherboard and a gpu.  Because PSUs are cheap the common thing to do is just try a different bigger one rather than trying to diagnose one.  Diagnosing PSUs is frought with danger anyway because of the huge size of the capacitors.

When I go to my logs it says your pc was shut down randomly and can’t find the reasoning. Since it’s not my ram, why does my ram sometimes only show one stick? I would think it’s the ports. But when I put them in a1 b1 my games would still crash. Sometimes. Yeah there pretty cheap. Honestly thinking about buying a new mother board/cpu fan, power supply and ram. The problem is idk if it’s my graphic card. Sometimes when I play tarkov, my screen will go black. I can hear my movement and shoot. I can exit the game out and I can still do stuff on my windows. Which is weird. I rather just call it quits if it’s my graphic card cuz my same card is like 900$. It would be like 200$ for all the other stuff. I’ve had this pc for 5 years now. Idk if that’s makes a difference. 

[MrMase]

3 minutes ago, westly said:

When I go to my logs it says your pc was shut down randomly and can’t find the reasoning. Since it’s not my ram, why does my ram sometimes one show one stick? I would think it’s the ports. But when I put them in a1 b1 my games would still crash. Sometimes. Yeah there pretty cheap. Honestly thinking about buying a new mother board/cpu fan, power supply and ram. The problem is idk if it’s my graphic card. Sometimes when I play tarkov, my screen will go black. I can hear my movement and shoot. I can exit the game out and I can still do stuff on my windows. Which is weird. I rather just call it quits if it’s my graphic card cuz my same card is like 900$. It would be like 200$ for all the other stuff. I’ve had this pc for 5 years now. Idk if that’s makes a difference. 

When you ran Memtest was that just a single pass or did you run for the full 4 passes, I've had issues with memory before that would not occur on the first or second pass but on the third or fourth.

[westly]

But then why does my pc just turn off. Idk… this is annoying. 

[westly]

1 minute ago, MrMase said:

When you ran Memtest was that just a single pass or did you run for the full 4 passes, I've had issues with memory before that would not occur on the first or second pass but on the third or fourth.

Yes i went through all 4 pass on each stick. I tested only once though. When you mean 4 passes you mean the 1/4 then it goes to 2/4 exc

[MrMase]

1 minute ago, westly said:

Yes i went through all 4 pass on each stick. I tested only once though. 

Thats fine, just wanted to confirm.

With that being the case I would also be suspecting Power or Motherboard issue, typically its more often than not the power supply at fault.
Now when you say your computer turns off do you get any kind of blue screen error, if so using Nirsoft's Bluescreenviewerx64 may help us with fault codes.

[westly]

Just now, MrMase said:

Thats fine, just wanted to confirm.

With that being the case I would also be suspecting Power or Motherboard issue, typically its more often than not the power supply at fault.
Now when you say your computer turns off do you get any kind of blue screen error, if so using Nirsoft's Bluescreenviewerx64 may help us with fault codes.

 

Just now, MrMase said:

Thats fine, just wanted to confirm.

With that being the case I would also be suspecting Power or Motherboard issue, typically its more often than not the power supply at fault.
Now when you say your computer turns off do you get any kind of blue screen error, if so using Nirsoft's Bluescreenviewerx64 may help us with fault codes.

Some times a blue screen sometimes not, it will just turn off completely. 

[Bombastinator]

23 minutes ago, westly said:

When I go to my logs it says your pc was shut down randomly and can’t find the reasoning. Since it’s not my ram, why does my ram sometimes only show one stick? I would think it’s the ports. But when I put them in a1 b1 my games would still crash. Sometimes. Yeah there pretty cheap. Honestly thinking about buying a new mother board/cpu fan, power supply and ram. The problem is idk if it’s my graphic card. Sometimes when I play tarkov, my screen will go black. I can hear my movement and shoot. I can exit the game out and I can still do stuff on my windows. Which is weird. I rather just call it quits if it’s my graphic card cuz my same card is like 900$. It would be like 200$ for all the other stuff. I’ve had this pc for 5 years now. Idk if that’s makes a difference. 

That could be bad memory, a bad motherboard, bad bios, or bad PSU.  This includes any bad connections associated with those parts.  A visual inspection of things couldn’t hurt I suppose, though they rarely turn up much. Gets into the classic meaning of bug. Bugs are called bugs because the first computer bug was an ant.  It crawled between two relays and was electrocuted.  It’s carcass kept the relay from closing completely.  Took forever to find.  The first thing tried of those was to test the memory, which is so far inconclusive.  Motherboards are complex things with many parts and the only ones who can test them completely is the manufacturer. 

[westly]

5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

That could be bad memory, a bad motherboard, bad bios, or bad PSU.  This includes any bad connections associated with those parts.  A visual inspection of things couldn’t hurt I suppose, though they rarely turn up much. Gets into the classic meaning of bug. Bugs are called bugs because the first computer bug was an ant.  It crawled between two relays and was electrocuted.  It’s carcass kept the relay from closing completely.  Took forever to find.  The first thing tried of those was to test the memory, which is so far inconclusive.  Motherboards are complex things with many parts and the only ones who can test them completely is the manufacturer. 

You think a new mother board and psi would solve my problem? Do you think it’s the graphic card? I know it’s super hard to test these components to figure out what’s wrong. I do have the money to replace them. If I do replace them. Which ones should I get. I think my current psu is bronze 650w and the mother board idk lol.

[Bombastinator]

Just now, westly said:

You think a new mother board and psi would solve my problem? Do you think it’s the graphic card? I know it’s super hard to test these components to figure out what’s wrong. I do have the money to replace them. If I do replace them. Which ones should I get. I think my current psu is bronze 650w and the mother board idk lol.

I don’t know.  Standard methodology for trouble shooting anything is to change only one variable at a time though.

[westly]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

I don’t know.  Standard methodology for trouble shooting anything is to change only one variable at a time though.

Well I run fur on max settings and my pc doesn’t crash I think it’s a memory issue. Or something with my power supply. I’ll replace my power supply first. That won’t mess anything up? I mean like I put a bran new one in and my mother board blows that up too. 

[westly]

4 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

I don’t know.  Standard methodology for trouble shooting anything is to change only one variable at a time though.

I have a gut feeling my power supply isn’t putting out enough juice or something. But if that doesn’t fix it I’m sure a new mother board would. I have. 650w but I do have a lot of stuff plugged into my pc. Should I go to 750, or so 650 good? 

[Bombastinator]

4 hours ago, westly said:

I have a gut feeling my power supply isn’t putting out enough juice or something. But if that doesn’t fix it I’m sure a new mother board would. I have. 650w but I do have a lot of stuff plugged into my pc. Should I go to 750, or so 650 good? 

It’s good enough for some systems but not others. I’m seeing a 2080 and a 2700x.  A 650 would be marginal for that.  How old is the PSU and what model is it?  This is why the instructions for posting in troubleshooting include specs.  They wind up being needed over 90% of the time.  I would say 850 over 750 if they’re near the same price because if you upgrade anything you’ll just be in the same boat again whereas with an 850 it likely won’t be a problem.  

Edited July 2, 2022 by Bombastinator