Refresh Rate Blind Testing

[Razor54672]

I searched about this a lot but surprisingly the coverage is little to none on this one.
I am primarily interested in the differences for Non-FPS game and also general workflow. 
I can 90Hz apart from 60 Hz. Was wondering if that is the case with 90Hz vs 144Hz as well and what might be exactly the sweet spot.
 

[Tan3l6]

There are some 1440p  180Hz  "sweet spot" monitors too.

60Hz monitor OC is probably not with good enough response times I think.

 

https://www.testufo.com/

 

180Hz is noticaby better on native 180Hz test than on 90Hz

Where the actual sweet spot is on? Hard to tell.

[Stahlmann]

The point where you can't tell the difference anymore differs from person to person. Some people claim they can't tell a difference at around 60Hz (but these are mostly stubborn people that haven't tried a high refresh monitor before. And some people claim to be able to tell a difference between 240Hz and 360Hz.

 

My sweet spot for animation smoothness etc, is around 90Hz. So i try to target around 90 fps in my games, but the higher the better of course. I won't limit my games to 90 fps when they can run higher.

 

In terms of perceptable motion clarity i'd say for most people it doesn't significantly improve beyond 120Hz. At some point it just makes more sense to enable BFI than increasing the refresh rate to improve motion clarity.

 

When it comes to input lag, most people can still tell a difference beyond 120Hz. I'd say here the point of diminishing returns lies around 240Hz. Anything higher than that is just placebo in most cases. This is very apparent when you have used a 240Hz display for a while and then go back to 144Hz. It just feels "off" once you got used to the responsiveness of faster refresh rates.

[e22big]

2 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

The point where you can't tell the difference anymore differs from person to person. Some people claim they can't tell a difference at around 60Hz (but these are mostly stubborn people that haven't tried a high refresh monitor before. And some people claim to be able to tell a difference between 240Hz and 360Hz.

 

My sweet spot for animation smoothness etc, is around 90Hz. So i try to target around 90 fps in my games, but the higher the better of course. I won't limit my games to 90 fps when they can run higher.

 

In terms of perceptable motion clarity i'd say for most people it doesn't significantly improve beyond 120Hz. At some point it just makes more sense to enable BFI than increasing the refresh rate to improve motion clarity.

 

When it comes to input lag, most people can still tell a difference beyond 120Hz. I'd say here the point of diminishing returns lies around 240Hz. Anything higher than that is just placebo in most cases. This is very apparent when you have used a 240Hz display for a while and then go back to 144Hz. It just feels "off" once you got used to the responsiveness of faster refresh rates.

I think it's more the matter of training and experiences. People who tried higher refersh rate display for the first time, are likely to not notice the different between it and the regular 60hz monitor (I am willing to bet that most people who use iPhone for example, wouldn't, especially in their first time)

 

Over time, you've learnt where to look and can appreciate its benefit more. I think it's also depending on the nature of the animation. A higher refresh rate is more important for a fast animation where the visual different can be very clear but a 144 fps loading animation will look exactly the same as 60 maybe eve 30. 

[Andrewtst]

I can tell the differences in between 60hz, 90hz, 144hz and 240hz.

 

For 120hz and 144hz I can't tell and it is kind of identical to me. 

 

No sure on 360hz as I never use before. 

 

Majority people should be able to tell differences in between 60hz to 144hz.

[Razor54672]

18 hours ago, Andrewtst said:

I can tell the differences in between 60hz, 90hz, 144hz and 240hz.

 

For 120hz and 144hz I can't tell and it is kind of identical to me. 

 

No sure on 360hz as I never use before. 

 

Majority people should be able to tell differences in between 60hz to 144hz.

By that, do you mean in FPS games? 
I primarily use my laptop for web browsing, watching media, academics (MATLAB, R, Python etc.), and occasional gaming (first person RPG type titles).
I currently have an OLED 90Hz panel in my laptop which is definitely smoother as compared to the 60Hz mode (even when scrolling or minimizing windows)
However, I was wondering how well this translates to higher refresh rates, keeping the use case similar.

[Andrewtst]

20 minutes ago, Razor54672 said:

By that, do you mean in FPS games? 
I primarily use my laptop for web browsing, watching media, academics (MATLAB, R, Python etc.), and occasional gaming (first person RPG type titles).
I currently have an OLED 90Hz panel in my laptop which is definitely smoother as compared to the 60Hz mode (even when scrolling or minimizing windows)
However, I was wondering how well this translates to higher refresh rates, keeping the use case similar.

Oh I mean the Windows smoothness animation, the most obvious is when you click the Windows 11 start menu. I now can notice 60hz is very bad in smooth animation.