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How do I stop spiders and wasps from getting inside PC?

 

The other day I was cleaning under my PSU shroud and saw some cob webs tangled around the PSU spare cables.

 

Also a potter wasp built its nest inside my home near to my PC and I fear that they may get inside through the back ventilation holes of my case (Lancool 215).

I have been stung twice. The nest has since been broken and discarded, with anti wasp spray killing the female but the male wasp still seems to be lurking around in my room and catching it is not a feat for a normal human as they fly super fast.

 

Can I cover up the back ventilation holes with ultra fine fibrous mesh without affecting the cooling so as to stop the bugs from getting an entry point?

 

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You can definitely use mesh on those holes, yeah. I believe you can buy dust filters you cut yourself, those would work great

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The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

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      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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7 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

You can definitely use mesh on those holes, yeah. I believe you can buy dust filters you cut yourself, those would work great

Thanks.

I have some 120mm fan mesh filters. I will cut them up and stick them using some silicon double sided tape.

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Your cooling will be affected, but it won't be noticeable.
Just get a mesh with small enough holes that spider & wasp can't get it. Not the ultra fine one (since it will trap dust easily).

Losing a miniscule of degree of cooling is much better than dealing with the havoc the bugs could do inside your PC anyway.

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1 hour ago, Poinkachu said:

Your cooling will be affected, but it won't be noticeable.
Just get a mesh with small enough holes that spider & wasp can't get it. Not the ultra fine one (since it will trap dust easily).

Losing a miniscule of degree of cooling is much better than dealing with the havoc the bugs could do inside your PC anyway.

I have these with me. The mesh is the same thing you get on the top of your cabinet.

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1 hour ago, volatus146 said:

as an Australian, i have never had the issue of dangerous insects in my PC

where the hell do you live 😅

Since I live in a place with lots of trees and greenery, bugs are a bit more here but not that extreme as an Australian home where getting bit by a bug is a common occurrence lol

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22 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

i heard panty hose could work too

It's been shown to be an effective dust stopper, so yeah.

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The mesh I had previously was bit too dense.

Will this new mesh work. The vents let out a lot of air.

The holes are 2x2mm. Standard keycap for scale

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23 hours ago, Mel0nMan said:

You can definitely use mesh on those holes, yeah. I believe you can buy dust filters you cut yourself, those would work great

 

23 hours ago, Poinkachu said:

Your cooling will be affected, but it won't be noticeable.
Just get a mesh with small enough holes that spider & wasp can't get it. Not the ultra fine one (since it will trap dust easily).

Losing a miniscule of degree of cooling is much better than dealing with the havoc the bugs could do inside your PC anyway.

Thanks to both of you. I got hold of some fine screen plastic mesh made specifically for doors to keep bugs away, here is the result. 

 

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Just now, R2G_RR94 said:

 

Thanks to both of you. I got hold of some fine screen plastic mesh made specifically for doors to keep bugs away, here is the result. 

 

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Nice, although you could put it in the inside and it might look a bit nicer from the outside

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Just now, Mel0nMan said:

Nice, although you could put it in the inside and it might look a bit nicer from the outside

Actually I can see the inside of my PC from where I sit and rarely anyone sees the back of the case so installed it on the back.

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45 minutes ago, R2G_RR94 said:

Actually I can see the inside of my PC from where I sit and rarely anyone sees the back of the case so installed it on the back.

What did you use to make it stick ??
Some kind of adhesives either don't stick much after being exposed to prolonged heat, or they just melt and make a mess later (i'm looking at you, tissue like double tapes)
VHB tape, thermal tape, Duct tape usually good option, the first 2 don't leave residue, the 3rd only leave residue after like... a long long time.


The perforation size is perfect, most dusts will be able to be blown out off those passive exhaust holes. Something i'd use myself.

Also, since you already go that far, may as well cover the other open holes as well.
Well, it's probably okay if you don't want to, guess you know which one to cover next if they can still enter.
Those that I marked, as well as the holes near the top rad fans (unless there's a dust filter ontop already)
And if the usual bugs is small enough to enter PCI bracket holes, those as well I guess.

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31 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

What did you use to make it stick ??
Some kind of adhesives either don't stick much after being exposed to prolonged heat, or they just melt and make a mess later (i'm looking at you, tissue like double tapes)
VHB tape, thermal tape, Duct tape usually good option, the first 2 don't leave residue, the 3rd only leave residue after like... a long long time.


The perforation size is perfect, most dusts will be able to be blown out off those passive exhaust holes. Something i'd use myself.

Also, since you already go that far, may as well cover the other open holes as well.
Well, it's probably okay if you don't want to, guess you know which one to cover next if they can still enter.
Those that I marked, as well as the holes near the top rad fans (unless there's a dust filter ontop already)
And if the usual bugs is small enough to enter PCI bracket holes, those as well I guess.

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I used 20mm clear acrylic double sided tape. It says heat resistant in their product description.

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I thought about covering the marked part but then again I have to cover the whole fan area as the blades don't cover the hole fully, so left that open for now to provide better ventilation.

 

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45 minutes ago, R2G_RR94 said:

I used 20mm clear acrylic double sided tape. It says heat resistant in their product description.

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I thought about covering the marked part but then again I have to cover the whole fan area as the blades don't cover the hole fully, so left that open for now to provide better ventilation.

 

Oh okay, acrylic double sided tape is pretty much VHB tape. Good job.

Well, just see for awhile if there's still bug invasion, if not all good.
If there is, you know where to work on.

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12 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Oh okay, acrylic double sided tape is pretty much VHB tape. Good job.

Well, just see for awhile if there's still bug invasion, if not all good.
If there is, you know where to work on.

Thanks a lot.

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