Building first pc......

[Aadi179q]

I'm trying to build a computer and need opinions on my parts and I'm looking for a 1440p 27 inch monitor

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jCLfd9

[Tan3l6]

Why not 12th gen ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pQNxFT/intel-core-i5-12400f-25-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512400f 

and 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pzstt6/msi-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4

 

For example.

Also twice as much RAM quite cheap - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v3FKHx/patriot-viper-steel-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-pvs432g320c6k

And SSD - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DgTzK8/adata-xpg-gammix-s70-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-agammixs70-1t-c

PSU - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bRvdnQ/corsair-rmx-2021-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020197-na

[Aadi179q]

trying to cut down on budget.....

[Cramig88]

That is a m-atx motherboard…

[Aadi179q]

just swtitching over to the 12th gen version goes from 170-ish to 230-ish even the motherboard gets more expensive

 

[Aadi179q]

1 minute ago, Cramig88 said:

That is a m-atx motherboard…

that is intentional....don't need all the features of atx and plus budget cuts.....

 

[Tan3l6]

Just now, Aadi179q said:

just swtitching over to the 12th gen version goes from 170-ish to 230-ish even the motherboard gets more expensive

 

CPU and MoBo I linked cost as much as your 11th gen stuff?

[Cramig88]

I built my first Pc when I was 14. Not bragging, it was a learning experience

now I’m 34, I’ve built 2 expensive monsters - is it worth it?

Kinda???  Last thing I ever wanna do again is swap a MOBO or cpu. If it works, leave it alone lol

[Cramig88]

U could go with a x99 (something) and dual cpu Xeon last I checked 

Xeon e5-2690 era. Lga 2011-ilm. Still, you’d rock 32 cores and 64 threads plus near infinite RAM (omg it’s ddr 3)

[mariushm]

The power supply is a big no. 

 

Where are you located? What online stores you have access to ? 

The motherboard price seems too high to be US based... 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dMdDwc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($49.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($88.85 @ Amazon) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($62.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA GQ 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $590.78
 

Add video card.

[Aadi179q]

1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

CPU and MoBo I linked cost as much as your 11th gen stuff?

I don't understand.....the core i5 114000f is around 170$ and the core i5-12400f is around 230$ 

[Tan3l6]

1 minute ago, Aadi179q said:

I don't understand.....the core i5 114000f is around 170$ and the core i5-12400f is around 230$ 

 

Maybe you have another region option in PCPartpicker

[Aadi179q]

1 minute ago, mariushm said:

The power supply is a big no. 

 

Where are you located? What online stores you have access to ? 

The motherboard price seems too high to be US based... 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dMdDwc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($49.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($88.85 @ Amazon) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($62.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA GQ 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $590.78
 

Add video card.

I uhh...don't live in the us I just convert the prices.....I actually live in bahrain and the stores I have access to are...

https://advanti.com

https://www.masterproductionsbh.com

https://bahrain.microless.com

 

the third one u also have to factor in shipping....

 

[Cramig88]

That seems a lot more reasonable for my taste. Just saying…

isn’t the fight of the dog, but the dog in the fight? Whatever!

now it seems realistic!  Go get a Ps5, then compare it to that. Youlll be plenty happy knowing u can do stuff later on!  Huge misconception these days

id recommend, well, advise, on a larger case. That’s all. Everything seems sound otherwise

[Aadi179q]

3 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

 

Maybe you have another region option in PCPartpicker

I'm not buying through pc part picker coz shipping gets wayyy too high for where I live.....

 

[Tan3l6]

Just now, Aadi179q said:

I'm not buying through pc part picker coz shipping gets wayyy too high for where I live.....

 

Yeah, I assume you reside in Bahrain. That makes it more difficult to suggest good options.

[Aadi179q]

Just now, Tan3l6 said:

Yeah, I assume you reside in Bahrain. That makes it more difficult to suggest good options.

yeah....I guess we don't get enough options....

[Aadi179q]

10 minutes ago, mariushm said:

The power supply is a big no. 

 

Where are you located? What online stores you have access to ? 

The motherboard price seems too high to be US based... 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dMdDwc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($49.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($88.85 @ Amazon) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($62.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA GQ 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $590.78
 

Add video card.

oh and I did choose a 650w power supply but the one that's in the build I just used as a place holder for the price....

[Cramig88]

I’m plenty happy with if!

[mariushm]

98.182  5600x  : https://advanti.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-3-7-ghz-six-core-am4-processor-amd-5600x.html

 

59.900  GIGABYTE B550M DS3H mATX : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Motherboards?product_id=1741&sort=p.price&order=ASC

OR 

89.900 ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING ATX  https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Motherboards?product_id=1531&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

34.900 T-Create 3600 CL18 DDR4 : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Memory?product_id=2183&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

65.900 Samsung 980 1 TB (nvme, TLC memory) : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/SSS_M2?product_id=1400&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

27.900 AEROCOOL AIRHAWK MID TOWER GAMING CASE   :  https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Case?product_id=2046

 

47.500 EVGA BQ 750W : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Power_Supply?product_id=1551&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

So that's  334.282  BHD  or around 890$ ... add video card.

 

 

[Cramig88]

I would be very happy

Just remember, throw in a gpu, no problem. Toss in another!  Why not?

I love these setups!

But, everyone has a diff BIOS layout (being picky), if that isn’t a concern, go for it!  You’ll figure it out.

id buy it

[Cramig88]

Just now, Cramig88 said:

I would be very happy

Just remember, throw in a gpu, no problem. Toss in another!  Why not?

I love these setups!

But, everyone has a diff BIOS layout (being picky), if that isn’t a concern, go for it!  You’ll figure it out.

id buy it

Seriously, seems solid. Sold

[Aadi179q]

2 hours ago, mariushm said:

98.182  5600x  : https://advanti.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-3-7-ghz-six-core-am4-processor-amd-5600x.html

 

59.900  GIGABYTE B550M DS3H mATX : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Motherboards?product_id=1741&sort=p.price&order=ASC

OR 

89.900 ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING ATX  https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Motherboards?product_id=1531&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

34.900 T-Create 3600 CL18 DDR4 : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Memory?product_id=2183&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

65.900 Samsung 980 1 TB (nvme, TLC memory) : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/SSS_M2?product_id=1400&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

27.900 AEROCOOL AIRHAWK MID TOWER GAMING CASE   :  https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Case?product_id=2046

 

47.500 EVGA BQ 750W : https://www.masterproductionsbh.com/Computer_Components/Power_Supply?product_id=1551&sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

So that's  334.282  BHD  or around 890$ ... add video card.

 

 

why would u recommend ryzen (not that I'm against that...) but It does drive up the cost....

and why are we switching up other parts of the build?

 

[Aadi179q]

plus I would need 50-ish bhd more to get a 3060......

 

[mariushm]

2 minutes ago, Aadi179q said:

why would u recommend ryzen (not that I'm against that...) but It does drive up the cost....

and why are we switching up other parts of the build?

 

Ryzen 5600x  is similar in performance with an Intel 12400

Your Intel processors are cheaper because they're older generations and you can't upgrade from 11th generation to 12 generation... but while the Intel cpu may be cheaper, the motherboard is often more expensive (for the same performance and quality) AND you may also end up paying for an extra cooler, because the cooler that comes in the box with  Intel cpus is crap, unlike the one that comes with AMD processors.

 

With AMD you have the option to eventually upgrade the CPU to something much better. There are processors cheaper than 5600x, like 5500 for example, but that one is a bit slower)

 

 

Reason for switching other things... Ryzen processors like fast memory, you should get at least 3200 Mhz memory sticks. The sticks I chose at 3600 CL18 were cheap.

If you want to save money for a short time, you can buy just one stick and then a month or so later when you have money, you can get second stick.

 

The SSD I suggested uses TLC memory which means has higher endurance, will last you longer. The Rocket Q is based on QLC which has less endurance (wears out faster) and has worse read/write speeds.

You can save a few dollars going with a 500 GB nvme SSD or even with a 2.5" SSD but I'd try to stay with a TLC memory based SSD.

 

A video card like 3060 won't consume more than 150-200 watts by itself, but modern video cards are designed in such a way that they can suddenly take 50w or so above the peak power consumption for a few milliseconds.. and older power supplies and low output power supplies don't like that.

That's why a 400w power supply like that Deepcool one would be a bad choice - while in theory your system won't go over 250 watts, the power supply may not handle it.

 

You should go with 550w or higher, bronze efficiency is fine, but ideally you should avoid group regulated power supplies. As you don't know how to tell what topology the psu uses, I gave you one that was cheap-ish and gold efficiency (it's hard to make gold efficiency power supplies with group regulation)

The case can be whatever you want. That I seemed cheap and with nice ventilation and fans built in. You can reuse older cases if the case is standard ATX.