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Yes. A 240mm with the  addition of a 120mm or 140mm rad would be OK.The 650d can also be modded to take a 360mm in the roof, but you lose the hot swap dock.You can put a 240mm in the roof and then later add a  bottom mounted 240mm X 45mm rad . 

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Yes. A 240mm with the  addition of a 120mm or 140mm rad would be OK.The 650d can also be modded to take a 360mm in the roof, but you lose the hot swap dock.You can put a 240mm in the roof and then later add a  bottom mounted 240mm X 45mm rad . 

I think I am going to start with a 240mm radiator rad on the roof fot just the cpu and then add a 120mm or 240 rad later when I add the gpu.

Here are the parts Im looking at right now:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18797/ex-res-485/Phobya_Balancer_250_Reservoir_-_Matte_Black_45335.html#blank

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10200/ex-rad-177/Koolance_Dual_140mm_Copper_High_Flow_Radiator_-_Black_No_Nozzles_HX-CU1402V.html?tl=g30c95s930

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2128/ex-pmp-27/Swiftech_MCP655-B_12v_Water_Pump_w_38_Conversion_Kit_317_GPH.html?tl=g30c107s1802#blank

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17724/ex-liq-303/Mayhems_XT-1_Glycol_Base_Coolant_Concentrate_-_150mL_-_UV_Blue.html?tl=g30c337s1809

 

http://primoshop.tylerindustries.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=26

 

Let me know what you guys think. I think this will be a good way to get started and i can add on later. If you think there are better parts you would recommend I would appreciate recommendations. 

Btw Thanks alot for all the help I really appreciate it, I have only been in this community for a short amount of time but the people in this community are great.

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Other choices;

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16935/ex-res-418/Bitspower_Water_Tank_Z-Multi_150_Inline_Reservoir_-_Clear_BP-WTZM150AC-CL.html?tl=g30c97s165

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15144/ex-pmp-184/EK_D5_X-Top_Acetal_Pump_Top_CSQ_w_Alphacool_VPP655_Variable_Speed_Pump_Installed.html?tl=g30c107s1802 Great combo !!

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16829/ex-rad-430/Alphacool_NexXxoS_XT45_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s930 for 70mm space

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16825/ex-rad-426/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s930 for 85mm space

 

Tube: I use XSPC tube, both clear and black. I have had no trouble with it. Also I use 7/16 ID tube on 1/2 barbs. I have used dye, but I now only use distilled water from the supermarket with this additive:

http://www.dazmode.com/store/product/dazmode_protector/ 

Just remember: you will be needing to change your fluid at least every year..and that is the maximum time between changes...

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Other choices;

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16935/ex-res-418/Bitspower_Water_Tank_Z-Multi_150_Inline_Reservoir_-_Clear_BP-WTZM150AC-CL.html?tl=g30c97s165

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15144/ex-pmp-184/EK_D5_X-Top_Acetal_Pump_Top_CSQ_w_Alphacool_VPP655_Variable_Speed_Pump_Installed.html?tl=g30c107s1802 Great combo !!

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16829/ex-rad-430/Alphacool_NexXxoS_XT45_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s930 for 70mm space

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16825/ex-rad-426/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s930 for 85mm space

 

Tube: I use XSPC tube, both clear and black. I have had no trouble with it. Also I use 7/16 ID tube on 1/2 barbs. I have used dye, but I now only use distilled water from the supermarket with this additive:

http://www.dazmode.com/store/product/dazmode_protector/

Just remember: you will be needing to change your fluid at least every year..and that is the maximum time between changes...

Is that res any better than the other one?

Also i was looking at those two rads but I don't think they will fit,it looks like they will interfere with my motherboard.

Also I really like the primochill blue tubing and iv heard good things about it so Il probably go with that.

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What makes the rez a little nicer is the popularity of it..example better support with more options , a 60mm dia vs. a 50mm dia looks nicer..but it was just another part for you to consider. The space above the MB to the roof on a Corsair 650D should allow for at least a 45mm rad with a single set of fans.. Measure that gap..from the top edge of the MB up to the roof  subtract 25mm and that will tell you the max size of rad that you can use. Primochill make a very good product. I have first hand experience with XSPC, and find it a good cost/benefit ratio.

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What makes the rez a little nicer is the popularity of it..example better support with more options , a 60mm dia vs. a 50mm dia looks nicer..but it was just another part for you to consider. The space above the MB to the roof on a Corsair 650D should allow for at least a 45mm rad with a single set of fans.. Measure that gap..from the top edge of the MB up to the roof  subtract 25mm and that will tell you the max size of rad that you can use. Primochill make a very good product. I have first hand experience with XSPC, and find it a good cost/benefit ratio.

Thanks, And what do you mean measure the length and subtract 25mm for the fans? Is the 25mm of the fans included in the rad size?

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No.The rad size is not including fans. example: A space above the MB with a measurement of 80mm should be able to accept a rad with a max 55mm thickness..80mm space-25mm fan=55mm rad. This is a rough example, some MB have heat-sinks that protrude and make instillation awkward at best.. You will want to install the thickest rad with the lowest fins per inch, this allows for the best cooling with the least fan noise. 

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No.The rad size is not including fans. example: A space above the MB with a measurement of 80mm should be able to accept a rad with a max 55mm thickness..80mm space-25mm fan=55mm rad. This is a rough example, some MB have heat-sinks that protrude and make instillation awkward at best.. You will want to install the thickest rad with the lowest fins per inch, this allows for the best cooling with the least fan noise. 

Ok I see, I think I would be able to fit the thicker rad if it was a 240mm but if i want to use a 280mm rad I would have to get a thinner rad in  order to avoid problems with a motherboard heat sink. What do you think is better a thicker 240 rad or a thin 280 rad?

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Im thinking i might use a 240mm thick rad on top for the processor. The 240mm rad fits in with my mother board with less issues and is more standard than the 240mm rad so if I replace my case I wouldn't need to buy a new rad. Once I want to add my video card Il throw a 200mm phobya rad in the front. How this sound do you think it will provide good enough cooling? 

As I said thanks for all of the help.

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Yes..for a CPU only loop a 240mm rad is a good choice..When you do want to add your GPU into your loop a 200mm rad with the 240mm rad will work well. Just be aware that not all cases with a 200mm front fan can fit a 200mm rad..you may need to do a little modding to the case 

 

 Phobya Xtreme 200

Known Case Compatibility
Aplus CS-EL Diablo
Aplus TwinEngine II Color Big-Tower
CM Storm SGC-6000-KWN1-GP Sniper 
Cooler Master HAF Tower RC-932-KKN1-GP 
Cooler Master RC-840-KKN1-GP ATC 
Enermax Phoenix Neo ECA3162
IN WIN Fanqua BS652 Midi-Tower 
IN WIN Maelstrom Big Tower 
Thermaltake Spedo VI90001N2Z
Thermaltake Element V Tower VL200K1W2Z

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Yes..for a CPU only loop a 240mm rad is a good choice..When you do want to add your GPU into your loop a 200mm rad with the 240mm rad will work well. Just be aware that not all cases with a 200mm front fan can fit a 200mm rad..you may need to do a little modding to the case 

 

 Phobya Xtreme 200

Known Case Compatibility

Aplus CS-EL Diablo

Aplus TwinEngine II Color Big-Tower

CM Storm SGC-6000-KWN1-GP Sniper 

Cooler Master HAF Tower RC-932-KKN1-GP 

Cooler Master RC-840-KKN1-GP ATC 

Enermax Phoenix Neo ECA3162

IN WIN Fanqua BS652 Midi-Tower 

IN WIN Maelstrom Big Tower 

Thermaltake Spedo VI90001N2Z

Thermaltake Element V Tower VL200K1W2Z

Ok great, I am pretty confident it will work with a bit of tinkering because I saw a build log with somebody doing pretty much this exact setup.

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