Energy saving bulb has exploded.

[GamerGry123]

As a result, even traffic jams in the apartment were broken.

 

I quickly opened the window and ventilated the bulb with a towel so as not to touch it directly.

 

I heard that there is mercury or some other harmful gas in this type of light bulb like in the picture.

 

They laughed at me for being so careful that I twist the bulb with a towel.

 

I have heard that mercury is not removed from the body so I was so careful.

 

What do you think about it?  Do these bulbs really have mercury.

 

I heard that LED bulbs emit blue light which is invisible as well as screens.

 

And such ordinary light bulbs that are used in the past, their efficiency is small, more energy goes to waste, therefore they heat up but are safe, there is no invisible blue light.

 

[Needfuldoer]

The broken glass is reason enough to use a towel. All that white dust you see is the phosphor, not mercury. (That turns the UV light the discharge puts out into visible light.) The mercury isn't a vapor at room temperatures, and there isn't enough in a single broken tube to be extremely dangerous in the short term. Don't worry about it.

 

New LED bulbs contain no mercury or lead.

 

"Regular" bulbs put out all kinds of light. (They also waste a ton of energy as heat.)

 

The "blue light" LEDs put out is not dangerous. The people who tell you it's going to destroy your eyes just want you sell you yellow sunglasses. Sunlight and fluorescent lights put out UV, too.

[danalog]

If they emitted any of this "dangerous invisible blue light", if it's invisible it can't damage your eyes anyway. 

[RejZoR]

6 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

If they emitted any of this "dangerous invisible blue light", if it's invisible it can't damage your eyes anyway. 

UV radiation is in the invisible light spectrum yet it can very much damage your eyes. It's why we use sunglasses with UVA and UVB protection filters...

[danalog]

2 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

UV radiation is in the invisible light spectrum yet it can very much damage your eyes. It's why we use sunglasses with UVA and UVB protection filters...

But you won't have an LED bulb producing those frequencies is my point. (Unless you specifically buy a UV bulb.)

[RejZoR]

1 hour ago, James Evens said:

They contain Hg.

LED is fine. In recent years there where advances splitting the single blue peak/wavelength into two resulting in a close to sunlight spectrum.

People always panicked about mercury inside these bulbs like you're opening a case of plutonium. The fact is, the amount is so small and breakage of such bulbs happens so rarely, it's literally a non issue. Especially if they break when under operating temperature because mercury is in a vapor form. Just vent the place and clean up the glass. And that's it.

 

Besides, how many people still use these bulbs anyway? Everything in my place is LED and has been for many years. I only had 4x halogen reflector bulbs that I replaced recently. And that was the one last "old lighting tech" remaining just because I rarely used them only for times when I really needed super powerful lighting for fine tasks. LED really became so accessible it's just stupid not to use it.

[RejZoR]

5 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

But you won't have an LED bulb producing those frequencies is my point. (Unless you specifically buy a UV bulb.)

Of course not. It has to be specifically crafted UV LED bulb to produce that kind of light. In most cases it's not even real UV light, it's just a purple LED... So, you really need to test it with fluorescent paint for example to see if it triggers it the way actual UV light would.

[Ababba]

LED lights can have nice warm light these days,

 

As a side note, a lot of LED bulbs are kind of a scam as manufacturers will put like 4 LEDs at 10 watts instead of 8 at 5 watts and the higher wattage will deteriorate the LEDs causing you to have to replace them more frequently then necessary.

 

You can look up hacking LED bulbs on youtube to lower the wattage so they last way way longer if you're into that sort of thing. Dubai actually regulates this so the same manufacture will sell better longer lasting bulbs there while we get the crappy planned obsolescence ones.

[GamerGry123]

1 hour ago, RejZoR said:

Promieniowanie UV znajduje się w niewidzialnym spektrum światła, ale może bardzo uszkodzić oczy. Dlatego używamy okularów przeciwsłonecznych z filtrami UVA i UVB...

This is why sunglasses are worn.

I have seen people who have never worn sunglasses and have good eyesight.

 

It is said that you have to use creams that have sunscreen, but it's for people who have sensitive skin, I guess. I've also seen people who have never used sunscreen. So I don't think it is harmful, somehow people used to live without sunglasses and sunscreen.

[GamerGry123]

1 hour ago, Mel0nMan said:

Ale nie będziesz miał żarówki LED produkującej te częstotliwości, o to mi chodzi. (Chyba że kupujesz konkretnie żarówkę UV.)

I don't mean invisible UV light. I mean invisible blue light. Very often, manufacturers of monitors write that their monitor has the function of removing invisible blue light which is harmful, yet they write that their monitors have flicker free technology that removes flickering which also tires the eyes.

 

 

[RejZoR]

1 minute ago, GamerGry123 said:

This is why sunglasses are worn.

I have seen people who have never worn sunglasses and have good eyesight.

 

It is said that you have to use creams that have sunscreen, but it's for people who have sensitive skin, I guess. I've also seen people who have never used sunscreen. So I don't think it is harmful, somehow people used to live without sunglasses and sunscreen.

That's a pretty poor argument against UVA and UVB radiation which is known to cause ocular and skin cancers... Also the ozone layer has changed over past several decades and neither was science back then when they didn't even connect those issues to sun itself and its UV radiation...

[GamerGry123]

1 hour ago, RejZoR said:

Ludzie zawsze wpadali w panikę z powodu rtęci w tych żarówkach, jakbyś otwierał skrzynkę plutonu. Faktem jest, że ilość jest tak mała, a pękanie takich żarówek zdarza się tak rzadko, że to dosłownie żaden problem. Zwłaszcza jeśli pękają pod wpływem temperatury roboczej, ponieważ rtęć jest w postaci pary. Wystarczy wywietrzyć miejsce i wyczyścić szybę. I to wszystko.

 

Poza tym, ile osób nadal używa tych żarówek? Wszystko na moim miejscu jest LEDowe i tak jest od wielu lat. Miałem tylko 4x halogenowe żarówki reflektorowe, które ostatnio wymieniłem. I to była ostatnia „stara technika oświetleniowa”, która pozostała tylko dlatego, że rzadko używałem ich tylko wtedy, gdy naprawdę potrzebowałem super mocnego oświetlenia do drobnych zadań. LED naprawdę stał się tak dostępny, że po prostu głupio go nie używać.

Well, it just exploded when it was turned on. Clean window panes? If so, I think you also need to clean all the things in the room as the steam could stay on the windows and things.

Why are you writing about UV lights? I have not written anywhere about UV lights, only blue invisible light.

[GamerGry123]

1 hour ago, RejZoR said:

Oczywiście nie. Aby wytworzyć ten rodzaj światła, musi być specjalnie wykonana żarówka UV LED. W większości przypadków nie jest to nawet prawdziwe światło UV, to tylko fioletowa dioda LED... Tak więc naprawdę musisz przetestować ją na przykład farbą fluorescencyjną, aby sprawdzić, czy wyzwala ją tak, jak robi to rzeczywiste światło UV.

The ozone layer has not changed from the UV light that comes from the sun, I think, only from car exhaust, from factories that produce harmful exhaust fumes, something that affects the ozone layer is added to deodorants.

[GamerGry123]

56 minutes ago, Ababba said:

W dzisiejszych czasach światła LED mogą mieć przyjemne, ciepłe światło,

 

Na marginesie, wiele żarówek LED to oszustwo, ponieważ producenci umieszczają 4 diody LED o mocy 10 watów zamiast 8 o mocy 5 watów, a wyższa moc pogorszy jakość diod LED, powodując konieczność ich wymiany częściej niż to konieczne .

 

Możesz sprawdzić hakowanie żarówek LED na youtube, aby obniżyć moc, aby działały o wiele dłużej, jeśli lubisz takie rzeczy. Dubaj właściwie to reguluje, więc ta sama fabryka będzie sprzedawać tam lepsze, trwalsze żarówki, podczas gdy my będziemy dostawać te gówniane, zaplanowane, przestarzałe.

I know, I've seen how to replace a capacitor and the LED bulb lasts much longer. Which lamps or bulbs there have the least harmful light?

 

Have you heard the blue invisible light?

Often, monitor manufacturers write about it.

 

The teacher at school told us that halogen light is the least harmful because it is more similar to natural light.

[RejZoR]

6 minutes ago, GamerGry123 said:

Well, it just exploded when it was turned on. Clean window panes? If so, I think you also need to clean all the things in the room as the steam could stay on the windows and things.

Why are you writing about UV lights? I have not written anywhere about UV lights, only blue invisible light.

No, I said went the room, not clean the windows...

 

4 minutes ago, GamerGry123 said:

The ozone layer has not changed from the UV light that comes from the sun, I think, only from car exhaust, from factories that produce harmful exhaust fumes, something that affects the ozone layer is added to deodorants.

I don't know, ask the other guy who started talking about it. Then again some education wouldn't hurt you since you seem to have a lot of terms severely mixed up. Like idea that UV somehow affects ozone?! Ozone blocks the UV. Also propellant gases used in deodorants and other spray products are not harmful to ozone and haven't been for several decades now. No one uses those gases anymore because they were dissolving ozone.

[GamerGry123]

19 minutes ago, Caroline said:

Ilość w nich rtęci jest znikoma.

Do manipulowania nimi można użyć ręcznika lub szmatki, ponieważ nie przeniesiesz żadnych tłuszczów ze skóry na szkło.

Jeśli spojrzysz na pudełko, które się tam znajduje, zawsze jest rysunek dłoni wskazujący, abyś chwycił je z plastikowej podstawy, a nie ze szkła.

 

Jeśli jest niebieski, to nie jest niewidoczny, jest niebieski.

Tak, diody LED emitują kolor niebieski, ponieważ jest częścią spektrum kolorów, bez dużej ilości niebieskiego wszystkie żarówki miałyby ciepły czerwonawy odcień. Jeśli uzyskasz 6500-7000K świateł, ich ton będzie skłaniał się do  zimna  i widma, więc twoje oczy będą widzieć wszystko niebieskie.... dabadee dabadie

 

Swoją drogą tylko psychopaci i agenci FSB używają w domu zimnego białego światła /s

 

Jednym z problemów z tymi samostatecznikowymi żarówkami fluorescencyjnymi i diodami LED AC jest przegrzanie, są one produkowane do użytku „do góry nogami”, co oznacza, że część emitująca światło jest skierowana w górę, a nie w dół, ale większość domów nadal ma oprawki do lamp sufitowych w przypadku żarówek to plus przepięcie diod LED przyczynia się do przedwczesnych awarii.

Bigclive obecny gang

ma kilka filmików jak wymienić rezystory i układy scalone

 

i lubi DC, tak jak ja, chociaż zwykle wybieram żarówkę

 

He likes DC? So that the light bulb does not flash?

why do you choose the bulb?

Why do agents choose blue light?

 

I heard that light bulbs do not have blue invisible light, I mean such bulbs that were used in the past, which a large part of the energy goes to heat, i.e. there are losses. Because there the wire is heated to a high temperature, which makes it glow.

[GamerGry123]

3 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Nie, powiedziałem, że poszedłem do pokoju, nie myję okien...

 

Nie wiem, spytaj drugiego faceta, który zaczął o tym mówić. Z drugiej strony, jakaś edukacja nie zaszkodziłaby ci, ponieważ wydaje się, że masz wiele pomieszanych terminów. Podoba Ci się pomysł, że UV w jakiś sposób wpływa na ozon?! Ozon blokuje promieniowanie UV. Również gazy pędne stosowane w dezodorantach i innych produktach w sprayu nie są szkodliwe dla ozonu i nie były szkodliwe od kilkudziesięciu lat. Nikt już nie używa tych gazów, ponieważ rozpuszczały ozon.

 

7 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Nie, powiedziałem, że poszedłem do pokoju, nie myję okien...

 

Nie wiem, spytaj drugiego faceta, który zaczął o tym mówić. Z drugiej strony, jakaś edukacja nie zaszkodziłaby ci, ponieważ wydaje się, że masz wiele pomieszanych terminów. Podoba Ci się pomysł, że UV w jakiś sposób wpływa na ozon?! Ozon blokuje promieniowanie UV. Również gazy pędne stosowane w dezodorantach i innych produktach w sprayu nie są szkodliwe dla ozonu i nie były szkodliwe od kilkudziesięciu lat. Nikt już nie używa tych gazów, ponieważ rozpuszczały ozon.

It is written on the internet that some deodorants destroy the ozone layer. But there are fewer deodorants like that now than they used to be.

[Zodiark1593]

3 hours ago, GamerGry123 said:

As a result, even traffic jams in the apartment were broken.

 

I quickly opened the window and ventilated the bulb with a towel so as not to touch it directly.

 

I heard that there is mercury or some other harmful gas in this type of light bulb like in the picture.

 

They laughed at me for being so careful that I twist the bulb with a towel.

 

I have heard that mercury is not removed from the body so I was so careful.

 

What do you think about it?  Do these bulbs really have mercury.

 

I heard that LED bulbs emit blue light which is invisible as well as screens.

 

And such ordinary light bulbs that are used in the past, their efficiency is small, more energy goes to waste, therefore they heat up but are safe, there is no invisible blue light.

 

 

CFL bulbs use very small amounts of mercury. The way they work is the mercury is vaporized, and emit UV light when current is passed through. The phosphor mixture layered on the inside of the glass converts the UV light to varying wavelengths of visible light, IE, white. The bulb exploded, so possibly, the ballast failed in such a way that allowed current to increase uncontrolled. When the arc is struck, a negative resistance is achieved, so a ballast serves to limit the current allowed to pass through.

 

The amount of mercury released is miniscule, with ventilation, it will have dissipated rapidly.

 

White LED lights produce light through a similar mechanism as CFLs. The LEDs themselves output either a royal blue (most common) or violet light, both of which are in the visible spectrum. The phosphor layer converts this to a broad spectrum white light. In both cases, the lights achieve their efficiency by not emitting most of their light in the infrared spectrum. Additionally, phosphors cannot convert light to higher frequencies, so an LED bulb cannot produce ultraviolet unless the LED itself was designed to output there to begin with. There is no "invisible blue" light (technically, ultraviolet can be considered a invisible blue, owing to the oddities of our cone receptors in the violet range) to be concerned with.

 

Incandescent lights output a very broad spectrum of light, with a majority of it's output in the invisible infrared spectrum (hence why it's efficiency as a visible light source is so poor), though it's emission spectrum actually extends upwards all the way to the ultraviolet range. Efficiency can be improved by running the filament hotter, pushing the broad part of the emission spectrum closer to the visible area. Halogen incandescent bulbs do this. However, we're limited by the melting point of tungsten, the metal with the highest melting point.

[GamerGry123]

36 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

CFL bulbs use very small amounts of mercury. The way they work is the mercury is vaporized, and emit UV light when current is passed through. The phosphor mixture layered on the inside of the glass converts the UV light to varying wavelengths of visible light, IE, white. The bulb exploded, so possibly, the ballast failed in such a way that allowed current to increase uncontrolled. When the arc is struck, a negative resistance is achieved, so a ballast serves to limit the current allowed to pass through.

 

The amount of mercury released is miniscule, with ventilation, it will have dissipated rapidly.

 

White LED lights produce light through a similar mechanism as CFLs. The LEDs themselves output either a royal blue (most common) or violet light, both of which are in the visible spectrum. The phosphor layer converts this to a broad spectrum white light. In both cases, the lights achieve their efficiency by not emitting most of their light in the infrared spectrum. Additionally, phosphors cannot convert light to higher frequencies, so an LED bulb cannot produce ultraviolet unless the LED itself was designed to output there to begin with. There is no "invisible blue" light (technically, ultraviolet can be considered a invisible blue, owing to the oddities of our cone receptors in the violet range) to be concerned with.

 

Incandescent lights output a very broad spectrum of light, with a majority of it's output in the invisible infrared spectrum (hence why it's efficiency as a visible light source is so poor), though it's emission spectrum actually extends upwards all the way to the ultraviolet range. Efficiency can be improved by running the filament hotter, pushing the broad part of the emission spectrum closer to the visible area. Halogen incandescent bulbs do this. However, we're limited by the melting point of tungsten, the metal with the highest melting point.

Thanks for the clarification.

What lamps do you recommend? Which eyes are tired? Ordinary bulbs, energy-saving or LED diodes?

[Zodiark1593]

16 minutes ago, GamerGry123 said:

Thanks for the clarification.

What lamps do you recommend? Which eyes are tired? Ordinary bulbs, energy-saving or LED diodes?

I recommend LED bulbs. Just some 2700K, high CRI bulbs. 
 

4 minutes ago, James Evens said:

 

 

Regardless a lot of products still use the conventional LED as there are more supply at a cheaper price.

Any products you’d recommend? I’m familiar with LED tech, but not sure what bulb manufacturers are using nowadays, as a lot of them like to go super cheap. For example, I’m familiar with LED product lines such as the Nichia E21a, optisolis, 219, 519a, etc, a lot of Cree’s lines, etc. but I’m unsure what is being used in which bulb. 

[Zodiark1593]

2 hours ago, James Evens said:

Not aware of a smart bulb using those. 

For "dump" lights I have no plan. Long time since I bought a none smart light bulb.

At the moment you will find them in lighting products marketed to cooperates/shops.  Museums also use them.

 

If you want a good LED take a look at the Dubai lamp. Officially they are only for sale within the country but there are reseller globally.

I have a custom-made flashlight using the E21A LEDs in 2700K. They boast a CRI rating of 98+. Compared to incandescent, they’re absolutely dead on. The color is golden with reds coming in strong. Compared to the LED bulbs in the house, these lack the subtle green tint shift as well. Not the most efficient LEDs in the world (efficiency drops off rapidly above 1 amp per LED, sitting at about 66 lumens/watt at 1.25 amp, 3 volt each), but them’s the tradeoffs. 
 

The new Nichia 519As supposedly mitigate the efficiency tradeoff at high currents while maintaining strong color rendering. Would like to get ahold of those in a light bulb. 

[Beerzerker]

18 hours ago, RejZoR said:

People always panicked about mercury inside these bulbs like you're opening a case of plutonium. The fact is, the amount is so small and breakage of such bulbs happens so rarely, it's literally a non issue. Especially if they break when under operating temperature because mercury is in a vapor form. Just vent the place and clean up the glass. And that's it.

 

Besides, how many people still use these bulbs anyway? Everything in my place is LED and has been for many years. I only had 4x halogen reflector bulbs that I replaced recently. And that was the one last "old lighting tech" remaining just because I rarely used them only for times when I really needed super powerful lighting for fine tasks. LED really became so accessible it's just stupid not to use it.

I've got a couple of these still in use and they work fine so I have no need to replace them for the simple sake of doing so.
I've already converted the rest of my home to LED's anyway, these just being the left-overs from when I did the change over from filament/incandecent to LED bulbs.

And I will say I've had by now several LED bulbs go bad before, have a couple right now that's acting up (Flickering/dimming) but these bulbs still work perfectly and as long as they do I'll just use them. These are older than any LED's I've ever had and so far, have outlasted any and all LED bulbs that's been here without exception.

[GamerGry123]

15 hours ago, Caroline said:

DC ma swoje zalety w zależności od zastosowania, najczęściej są to pojazdy, ponieważ mają akumulatory (12 V w samochodach lub 24/48 V dla ciężarówek, kamperów, autobusów...) oraz w domu do lamp lub opraw z krótkimi obwodami, migotanie Żarówki wolne od prądu nie są już ekskluzywne, ponieważ technologia sterowników AC dla diod LED znacznie się poprawiła w ciągu ostatnich kilku lat. Jest również stosowany w systemach solarnych, reflektorach awaryjnych itp.

Wadą jest to, że wymaga grubszego okablowania (niższe napięcie = wyższy prąd) i użycia zasilaczy do konwersji sieci AC na DC.

 

Dlaczego wybrałem żarówkę? nie jestem pewien, na początku szukałem sposobu, aby poradzić sobie z migotaniem, które moja sieć wytwarza na żarówkach żarowych i przestawiłem starą lampę biurkową na prąd stały, używając starego zasilacza do komputera i reflektora samochodowego, potem dostałem w swoje ręce sto żarówek 12 V przez przypadek (dzięki, przypadkowy rozkojarzony pracownik) za cenę zaledwie dziesięciu i dobrze się pomyślał... te rzeczy muszą być pożyteczne, właśnie przywróciłem do życia stary żyrandol w domu i użyłem trochę więcej, ale na szczęście wciąż jest dużo w magazynie. Są również trwalsze niż ich odpowiedniki o wyższym napięciu, ponieważ włókno jest grubsze i dodatkowo schludniejsze. Mam też około 200 świetlówek kompaktowych, ale to już inna historia 

 

Dlaczego agenci wybierają zimne tony… to rodzaj miejskiej legendy, która mówi, że sowieckie gułagi miały pokoje tortur i przesłuchań, w których używano chłodnych białych lamp fluorescencyjnych, aby więźniowie nie zasnęli 24 godziny na dobę, 7 dni w tygodniu, i że agenci przeprowadzali eksperymenty zmienić więźniów w bezwłose, martwe mózgi drony, jest to częściowo prawda, ponieważ dźwięki zimnego światła utrzymują ludzi przytomnych i koncentrują się, ponieważ symuluje naturalne światło dzienne, dlatego biura korporacyjne, agencje rządowe, szkoły i szpitale używają tylko chłodnego, białego światła, tak jak w przypadku bezwłose stwory, to tylko mit... a może?.

Pomieszczenia te nadal istnieją i są używane w Wenezueli i Korei Północnej do „przesłuchiwania” i zasadniczo przechowywania dysydentów politycznych i schwytanych rebeliantów, aż do ich śmierci.

  Odkryj ukrytą zawartość

Wewnątrz „grobowca” (podziemnego więzienia) wszystko jest po hiszpańsku, ale pokazuje budynek więzienia, miejsce odwiedzin, które prawdopodobnie nigdy nie jest używane, oraz celę.

Nic o Korei Północnej.

Jeśli chodzi o typy światła

 

Żarowe: klasyczne, rozpraszają około 90% energii, którą zużywa w postaci ciepła, ciepłych tonów

CFL: dziwny kuzyn, którego nikt nie chce widzieć na zjeździe rodzinnym, dobra oszczędność energii, chociaż może być pewna aberracja chromatyczna, nie tak dobra jak lampy

LED: wysoka wydajność, duża oszczędność energii, przyzwoity współczynnik CRI, staje się przystępny cenowo, ponieważ reszta jest wycofywana

It was in schools that I noticed there was a warm light.

Still, is this flickering caused by AC current tiring for the eyes?

I have replaced the bulbs at home with those that do not flicker and it is better. But these are LED bulbs.

[Needfuldoer]

27 minutes ago, GamerGry123 said:

Still, is this flickering caused by AC current tiring for the eyes?

Old fluorescent lights flickered because their "dumb" ballasts ran at line frequency.

 

New fluorescent lights and LEDs don't visibly flicker because they either run the lights on DC, or they turn AC line voltage into DC which then gets inverted back to an extremely high frequency AC. High frequency AC still flickers, but it's so fast that either you can't see it unless you're Superman or the phosphor doesn't have time to fade out before it gets hit by the next pulse.