dead gpu, do you know whats wrong?

[rip_gpu_prices]

Hey folks, 

a few months ago my arous gtx 1080 ti died and for some reason only now i thought about disassembling it to potentially see what died. I had a hardware store, that can repair hardware, take a look at it but they said they couldnt fix it. Do you guys see whats wrong with the PCB using the pictures I took and whether someone could fix it? GPU prices are still high and with the same money now you can buy a new 3060 ti which is worse...

 

thanks for any help in advance!

 

PS: not even any of the fan lights are lit up when the card is plugged into the motherboard and psu, tried it in two pcs and have to currently run an older slow gpu

[RONOTHAN##]

I'd start looking for shorts, especially since the input filtering section looks kinda weird. The top cap in photo 3 does look like it has a burn mark on the the positive end, which can cause a short.

 

That said, measuring resistance on a 1080 Ti is very difficult, since they regularly have only half an ohm of resistance across the core, lower than a lot of multimeters will actually read. If it's a short on the input filter like it looks like (maybe a popped fuse as well) then the card should be pretty fixable if you know what you're doing, but if I'm not right about that it basically comes down to whether the core is fine or not, and that's not something that can easily be determined.

[bmx6454]

i mean, if a shop couldn't diagnose in person with the right equipment, doing it through pictures is not going to happen. with no obvious broken components or burns, you need to start checking the components with the right equipment. might be better off finding a different more capable shop, or just sell it as-is for as much $ as you can.

[rip_gpu_prices]

btw small correction, lights and fans work, just no video output

[Eigenvektor]

The areas that I marked in red look kind of suspicious. The fluid(?) on the "Magic R22" components also looks a bit like a splash pattern that originated somewhere to the right of them. Bottom part of your first picture also looks like heat damage.

 

[rip_gpu_prices]

12 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I'd start looking for shorts, especially since the input filtering section looks kinda weird. The top cap in photo 3 does look like it has a burn mark on the the positive end, which can cause a short.

 

That said, measuring resistance on a 1080 Ti is very difficult, since they regularly have only half an ohm of resistance across the core, lower than a lot of multimeters will actually read. If it's a short on the input filter like it looks like (maybe a popped fuse as well) then the card should be pretty fixable if you know what you're doing, but if I'm not right about that it basically comes down to whether the core is fine or not, and that's not something that can easily be determined.

 

11 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

i mean, if a shop couldn't diagnose in person with the right equipment, doing it through pictures is not going to happen. with no obvious broken components or burns, you need to start checking the components with the right equipment. might be better off finding a different more capable shop, or just sell it as-is for as much $ as you can.

thx for the help, sadly i dont know a lot about those electronics except that back in the sometimes dead caps were a problem and people could often just replace 'em. I would've tried the oven method, but i dont have an old oven at my disposal that has to be thrown away, i cant do it in a normal one because of hazardous gases and smells unfortunately.

[rip_gpu_prices]

2 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

The areas that I marked in red look kind of suspicious. The fluid(?) on the "Magic R22" components also looks a bit like a splash pattern that originated somewhere to the right of them. Bottom part of your first picture also looks like heat damage.

 

 

thx for the reply, i didnt spill any fluid on the card and i mildly oc'd it maybe + 100mhz or so and ran 84°C max target temp, that was the highest temp where it was quiet and 84°C was the default target temp of my previous evga gtx 970 SC so i kept that, on the stock curve the operating temp was around 80°C, when i got a new case in december 2020 the card ran a bit cooler actually because of the improved case air temps

thats the exact model: https://www.google.com/search?q=aorus+gtx+108+0+ti&sxsrf=APq-WBvO44DgoiiybA8FDZPIhHECuZxpfA:1648067091380&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSv7CsiN32AhXhR_EDHTVTDwwQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=2560&bih=1297&dpr=1#imgrc=5o-BBGFrdOVzBM

[Eigenvektor]

Just now, rip_gpu_prices said:

thx for the reply, i didnt spill any fluid on the card

Due to the splash pattern I think it's much more likely something exploded. Not saying it's water damage.

 

I'd have a look at the caps above the Magic R22 because it looks like there's a chunk missing from the topmost one. Actually I think there's a tiny capacitor missing just to the right of it and most everything around it looks like it was hit by shrapnel.

[bmx6454]

21 minutes ago, rip_gpu_prices said:

 

thx for the help, sadly i dont know a lot about those electronics except that back in the sometimes dead caps were a problem and people could often just replace 'em. I would've tried the oven method, but i dont have an old oven at my disposal that has to be thrown away, i cant do it in a normal one because of hazardous gases and smells unfortunately.

definitely don't do that either way, putting cards in the oven is never a good idea imo(unless you want to destroy a card for the lols). even if it made the card work, it would be temporary, and the card would be worse off, and that's assuming the oven doesn't just destroy it for good.

[rip_gpu_prices]

1 minute ago, bmx6454 said:

definitely don't do that either way, putting cards in the oven is never a good idea imo(unless you want to destroy a card for the lols). even if it made the card work, it would be temporary, and the card would be worse off, and that's assuming the oven doesn't just destroy it for good.

if a card is already dead then there is nothing to loose, even squeezing out 6 months of use would be good ,especially since maybe the gpu prices will keep going down because are slowly getting more reasonable, it worked for lots of people. 

 

13 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Due to the splash pattern I think it's much more likely something exploded. Not saying it's water damage.

 

I'd have a look at the caps above the Magic R22 because it looks like there's a chunk missing from the topmost one. Actually I think there's a tiny capacitor missing just to the right of it and most everything around it looks like it was hit by shrapnel.

thx for the help, i guess i could send those pictures to other computer shops and see if they can use those pics as help

[bmx6454]

Just now, rip_gpu_prices said:

if a card is already dead then there is nothing to loose, even squeezing out 6 months of use would be good ,especially since maybe the gpu prices will keep going down because are slowly getting more reasonable, it worked for lots of people. 

6 months is unlikely. a dead card still has value sold on ebay or something, but a dead cooked card really doesn't. may work for "some people", but i guarantee when almost all of them fail, they don't post an update about it. either way, it's your card, bake it if you want.

[rip_gpu_prices]

2 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

6 months is unlikely. a dead card still has value sold on ebay or something, but a dead cooked card really doesn't. may work for "some people", but i guarantee when almost all of them fail, they don't post an update about it. either way, it's your card, bake it if you want.

dont have an oven for that, for how much do you think i can sell it on ebay? 

[bmx6454]

3 hours ago, rip_gpu_prices said:

dont have an oven for that, for how much do you think i can sell it on ebay? 

between 120-170$ seems to be the going rate, depending on the model of card, and whether all the parts are there or not. not a crazy amount, but not terrible for an otherwise unusable card.

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is the computer limited to on board graphics in the bios?

[rip_gpu_prices]

6 hours ago, Stephen7 said:

is the computer limited to on board graphics in the bios?

i dont have on board graphics, someone borrowed me a gtx 960 2g

[Guest]

4 hours ago, rip_gpu_prices said:

i dont have on board graphics, someone borrowed me a gtx 960 2g

The difference between "leant" and "borrowed".  borrowed is from someone.  leant is to someone.  I borrowed a thing From someone.  Therefore they leant me that thing.  Someone leant you a gtx 960 2g.  Did it boot with the 960 2g?

[rip_gpu_prices]

11 minutes ago, Stephen7 said:

The difference between "leant" and "borrowed".  borrowed is from someone.  leant is to someone.  I borrowed a thing From someone.  Therefore they leant me that thing.  Someone leant you a gtx 960 2g.  Did it boot with the 960 2g?

yes i have been using it for 6 months, all works fine, the 1080 ti didnt run in another system as well so i know its the card

[rip_gpu_prices]

8 hours ago, Stephen7 said:

The difference between "leant" and "borrowed".  borrowed is from someone.  leant is to someone.  I borrowed a thing From someone.  Therefore they leant me that thing.  Someone leant you a gtx 960 2g.  Did it boot with the 960 2g?

 

20 hours ago, bmx6454 said:

between 120-170$ seems to be the going rate, depending on the model of card, and whether all the parts are there or not. not a crazy amount, but not terrible for an otherwise unusable card.

 

On 3/23/2022 at 9:33 PM, Eigenvektor said:

Due to the splash pattern I think it's much more likely something exploded. Not saying it's water damage.

 

I'd have a look at the caps above the Magic R22 because it looks like there's a chunk missing from the topmost one. Actually I think there's a tiny capacitor missing just to the right of it and most everything around it looks like it was hit by shrapnel.

i am thinking about getting a 3070 ti that should at least be 10% better than a high end 1080 ti, do you think this card is good: https://www.amazon.de/ASUS-Grafikkarte-Raytracing-DisplayPort-TUF-RTX3070TI-O8G-GAMING/dp/B0971D8FB4/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=1IIQUHVZG70D5&keywords=rtx+3070+ti&qid=1648154151&sprefix=rtx+3070+ti%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-1

[vrekker]

i have repaird electronics before like pc parts
i cant see to clearly low res photos 
but it looks like heat also flux and solder on the markt red spot of the bord
i think the shop you took it to did damidge it
can u take high res photos whitout motion blur a picture from a distance can be better than a non focud close one
sorry for the bad englich

edit:
also looks like more corosion on that part of the bord
can be from heat or liquid and heat or acid last one can be form a blown cap that whas replaced
but the bord whas never cleand

[rip_gpu_prices]

11 hours ago, vrekker said:

i have repaird electronics before like pc parts
i cant see to clearly low res photos 
but it looks like heat also flux and solder on the markt red spot of the bord
i think the shop you took it to did damidge it
can u take high res photos whitout motion blur a picture from a distance can be better than a non focud close one
sorry for the bad englich

edit:
also looks like more corosion on that part of the bord
can be from heat or liquid and heat or acid last one can be form a blown cap that whas replaced
but the bord whas never cleand

thx for the info, i am just gonna sell the card for  100-150€ seems easier

[Jonatas]

On 3/23/2022 at 9:13 PM, bmx6454 said:

between 120-170$ seems to be the going rate, depending on the model of card, and whether all the parts are there or not. not a crazy amount, but not terrible for an otherwise unusable card.

 

 Sorry for the lite hijack, but could you do a rough estimative on how much an unusable 670 would go for?

 

 It is a Gigabyte 670 (2GB I believe) windforce that won't go above the lowest resolution and the driver can't recognize it.

[bmx6454]

34 minutes ago, Jonatas said:

 

 Sorry for the lite hijack, but could you do a rough estimative on how much an unusable 670 would go for?

 

 It is a Gigabyte 670 (2GB I believe) windforce that won't go above the lowest resolution and the driver can't recognize it.

I'm not some kind of expert, i just get a consensus based on what they are going for on ebay. not a lot of 670's for sale working, very few non working. this one is the same card i believe: https://www.ebay.com/itm/224893961343?epid=116003238&hash=item345cb9847f%3Ag%3ALFoAAOSwqQtiJC0K&LH_ItemCondition=7000

no takers/watchers, the lowest one is at 50$, still no takers. i would just put it up for like 30$ starting bid and see where it goes, it's not worth a whole lot unfortunately.

[Jonatas]

On 3/27/2022 at 6:27 PM, bmx6454 said:

I'm not some kind of expert, i just get a consensus based on what they are going for on ebay. not a lot of 670's for sale working, very few non working. this one is the same card i believe: https://www.ebay.com/itm/224893961343?epid=116003238&hash=item345cb9847f%3Ag%3ALFoAAOSwqQtiJC0K&LH_ItemCondition=7000

no takers/watchers, the lowest one is at 50$, still no takers. i would just put it up for like 30$ starting bid and see where it goes, it's not worth a whole lot unfortunately.

 

 Thank you.

 

 Mine is the two fan, probably this model https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N670WF2-2GD#ov (I don't have the card in hands now so I can't confirm).

 

 No harm in trying to sell it, after all I have it stored in the box for some 3 years now (would probably still sell for more than the working Phenom X4 I have stored).