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Hi All,


I am a twitch streamer and back in September of 2021, I built a new PC since the Motherboard on my old build died on me. I decided to go all new parts with the exception of the GPU (for obvious reason) and the Power Supply.
Since using this build, whenever I try to Stream a PC game, after about 30 min, both my monitors will flash black for 5 seconds, come back, apps will crash except the game and OBS, the sound with start to have static in it, and my stream will have MAJOR buffering. Upon inspection in OBS, I see that "skipped frames due to encoding lag" goes off the charts. and after quitting the game, it all goes back to normal. I Checked my GPU drivers (all up to date) and lowered game visuals to get the same results. I ran Furmark for 12 min while not streaming with no stutters or crashes Max temp hit 85C. This issue does not occur when using my internal capture card and console. Any thoughts on this?

 

Specs: Ryzen 7 5800x, Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming II, G.Skill Ripjaw V Series 16GB (2x8GB), Asus GTX 1080 (from 2016), EVGA 450 W Power Supply (80+Bronze) (from 2016). 

 

Could this be a GPU issue? Or maybe a power supply issue?

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Windows 11?

Windows 10 with fTPM and secure boot?

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Welcome to the forums!

Seems like a GPU caused issue, make sure it's seated firmly in the slot, PSU connectors are fully plugged in etc. 

Then run DDU in Safe Mode to fully purge/reinstall your drivers.

 

Did you reinstall Windows on the new board? I recommend doing so if not. 

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Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

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14 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Welcome to the forums!

Seems like a GPU caused issue, make sure it's seated firmly in the slot, PSU connectors are fully plugged in etc. 

Then run DDU in Safe Mode to fully purge/reinstall your drivers.

 

Did you reinstall Windows on the new board? I recommend doing so if not. 

Hi! Yes, this is a fresh windows install from when I built the PC (new NVMe Drive). I removed the GPU, dusted it to hell, and reseated along with the cables. Same issue

I can try to run DDU in safe mode. Hopefully that helps

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29 minutes ago, beardedblake12 said:

and my stream will have MAJOR buffering.

That's because of your internet connection.

 

Do a speed test and share the results:

https://www.speedtest.net/

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8 minutes ago, Vishera said:

That's because of your internet connection.

 

Do a speed test and share the results:

https://www.speedtest.net/

It's due to encoding, not internet speed. I had buffering issues from my internet before so I upgraded to gigabit. Haven't had buffering issues due to internet since. See attached results
I know it's System based due to this being what freaks out in OBS (see attached x2)

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10 minutes ago, beardedblake12 said:

It's due to encoding, not internet speed.

Are you using NVENC?

Did you try streaming with Nvidia's ShadowPlay?

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2 minutes ago, Bad5ector said:

Do you happen to know how much wattage you are pulling when doing all that? That 450watt PSU might be struggling. 

 

What did you upgrade from?

So the PSU is the same from my old build (like the GPU). which makes me also think it could be the problem. BUT it does take a while before the issue happens (30 min or so).
No clue how much wattage im pulling.
I upgraded from an i7 6700k CPU though if that helps with where I came from

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3 minutes ago, beardedblake12 said:

No clue how much wattage im pulling.

I think HWinfo can give you rough idea. But yeah I would try putting in at least a 550 or greater. If it were me, I'd shoot for the largest I could afford... just incase you find a shiny new video card, that will most definitely require more juice than your 450 watt can provide.

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8 minutes ago, Bad5ector said:

I think HWinfo can give you rough idea. But yeah I would try putting in at least a 550 or greater. If it were me, I'd shoot for the largest I could afford... just incase you find a shiny new video card, that will most definitely require more juice than your 450 watt can provide.

I've been considering grabbing a 1000W anyways, because I do plan on getting a 3070 or 3080 at some point! Im hoping this does fix the greater issue

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1 hour ago, beardedblake12 said:

Windows 11. Sorry I forgot to mention

This is it:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-issues-fix-and-workaround-for-ftpm-stuttering-issues

 

You can wait for the next major BIOS update or you can install Windows 10 and not use fTPM.

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  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
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  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
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