RAM Issues

[avenirr]

Hi, I have an issue with my new recently purchased corsair vengeance ram. I bought 2 sticks and each are 8gb so 16gb total and it runs pretty slow at the stock 2133mhz so ive been trying to figure out what to do about the problem im having. I purchased it on amazon and corsair states it is rated for 4600+ MHZ. My motherboard says it can support up to 4600mhz in which i tried that, yet it booted for a second, shut off, rebooted, and runs but no display and no mouse light. I also tried increasing the voltage to 1.3 and 1.4 with both not working. Just to test it, I changed it to 3000mhz (1600 under the max) and it does the same thing with voltages tested. I also tried the XMP profile of 3200mhz just to see and of course, does the same thing. It seems I cannot get anything above the standard 2133mhz while my other components OC just fine. I've also watched numerous videos about overclocking ram just to see if i was missing anything and I was changing the settings that they were changing (with the values being what my motherboard supports). Any ideas? 

I5 9600k 
Gtx 950 SC+
16 gb ddr4 corsair pro ram
Msi z390 a pro
Cooler master fans/cooler
Kingston 240gb ssd
2tb WB HDD

[Aaron_T]

I'd start by seeing if a lower speed XMP profile works at all, then if it does go up from there till your system becomes unstable. 

 

Try 2400, then 2666, etc.. Your motherboard is not the only part of the equation, the memory control on your CPU is subject to the silicon lottery, and maybe not be able to perform as fast as you'd like.

 

Also, you failed to mention what speeds the purchased RAM was rated for. What was the spec on the RAM? Also did you buy two individual sticks, or did you buy a kit that came with 2 sticks?

[Jurrunio]

34 minutes ago, AvenHere said:

I bought 2 sticks of 8gb each

in the form of 1 kit? or seperate kits each holding 1 stick?

 

Try updating the BIOS

[avenirr]

3 hours ago, AaronThomas said:

I'd start by seeing if a lower speed XMP profile works at all, then if it does go up from there till your system becomes unstable. 

 

Try 2400, then 2666, etc.. Your motherboard is not the only part of the equation, the memory control on your CPU is subject to the silicon lottery, and maybe not be able to perform as fast as you'd like.

 

Also, you failed to mention what speeds the purchased RAM was rated for. What was the spec on the RAM? Also did you buy two individual sticks, or did you buy a kit that came with 2 sticks?

2 sticks of 8gb each rated for 4600+ MHZ

[Guest]

I'll take a wild stab at it....

 

Set all defaults.

 

Set XMP profile enabled.

Manually set the following

Primary memory timings 19-19-19

Dram voltage 1.40v

Vccio to 1.15v

System Agent to 1.15v

Dram frequency to 4000mhz (yes while XMP enabled, this will set up the secondaries and third timing sets for high frequency)

F10 save and cross some fingers.

 

Windows just acts silly when memory is too unstable. You don't have to do any repairs, but you want successful post ups. 

If not successful from above, lower the Dram frequency incrementally until it posts up and loads windows properly. Then test it.

 

GL!

[avenirr]

hi shrimp, thanks for helping recently. I uploaded a photo that shows my bios. i am unfamiliar with OC terms and such and a lot of the stuff such as memory timings, etc. are not easy to locate. mind helping altering what is shown on my bios? also, i’m not sure if i explained it well but even with the OC being reset and all it still gives me the infinite black loading screen and sometimes the error 0xc0000001. windows can’t repair itself either and since there’s no oc i’m just suspecting i somehow fried a windows file inside my ssd. but to me it doesn’t make sense since i only maxed out at 1.4v and 2.9 before it cut on me 

[Guest]

Cpu sa

Cpu io

1.15v each.

 

Xmp is at the top

Dram frequency is just below it.

 

If you have windows boot issues after you set all defaults, yes you may need to repair with the instalation media. 

[nick name]

3 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

-snip-

 

If you have windows boot issues after you set all defaults, yes you may need to repair with the instalation media. 

You can use this to do what @ShrimpBrimerecommended (I do too):

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system-files-79aa86cb-ca52-166a-92a3-966e85d4094e

[avenirr]

On 1/10/2022 at 8:33 AM, nick name said:

You can use this to do what @ShrimpBrimerecommended (I do too):

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system-files-79aa86cb-ca52-166a-92a3-966e85d4094e

i’ve tried the DISM one: says it doesn’t support servicing windows pe with the online option (not sure what that means)

I also tried sfc and once it hits 100% it says it windows protection can’t perform the operation. i tried doing it with the usb and reinstalling it there, but i can’t choose the upgrade option so i have to go with custom. but i’d have to completely clear my ssd in that case since it says i can’t install windows on any of my currently formatted drives

[avenirr]

hi, so i’ve had an issue after trying to overclock my ram. really stupid that i even have to do this but i got new corsair vengeance ram (2 sticks, 8gb each) that are shown to hold up to a 4600+ mhz OC. i literally overclocked it to 2700 and now my windows gets an infinite black screen with white loading symbol after it loads the windows symbol and motherboard symbol. windows repair doesn’t work, can’t sfc scan, i’ve tried every single thing and my computer just can’t do it and rejects everything. i also get the blue screen 0xc0000001 sometimes right after boot. i’d just rather reinstall windows but it says i can’t install it with upgrade which is the only method that’s going to save some files. there’s upgrade and custom. custom i’d have to clear the entire drive which i don’t want to do but it literally seems like the only option. anything i can do?

[RONOTHAN##]

If you've already done the obligatory clear CMOS to see if you can get into Windows with JEDEC memory speeds, it does sound like your Windows install got corrupted somehow, so you might not be able to pull that many files off the drive. However, if you want to give a shot at recovering your files, load up a Live USB and do it through there. Make a Live Linux USB with some Linux distro, vanilla Ubuntu is my go to choice, but honestly anything with a live environment would work. In there, hit something like "Try without installing" or just exit the install window, and you should be able to mount the hard drive and see all the files present (not sure if this works if you have Bitlocker enabled, but it's worth a shot). Get an external hard drive and move everything you care about to that other hard drive. Then do the clean install of Windows. You'll still have to reinstall all your programs, but at least all your important files will be saved. 

[Chris Pratt]

1 hour ago, AvenHere said:

that are shown to hold up to a 4600+ mhz OC. i literally overclocked it to 2700

What is the actual rated clockspeed of the kit? If 2700MHz was an *overclock*, there's no way in hell you're getting all the way to 4600MHz+. That would be an amazing overclock, even if they were rated for 4000MHz. I'm of course assuming you're not just talking about XMP. That is itself an overclock, but one that's already validated.

 

As far as getting your files goes. Your best option is probably going to be booting off Linux on a USB drive and mounting your Windows drive. That will let you get any files you need off, at least.