poor performance? redux

[sonofgump]

I recently purchased a computer from the company redux and was wondering about some potential issues: 

 

my build 

1440p gaming

3080 ti

ryzen 7 5800x

32 gigs ram

1tb ssd

 

I've noticed with games that don't require a power plant to run do just fine " phasmophobia, deep rock, mini motorways however when playing certain games like sea of thieves, red dead 2, grounded, destiny 2 seems to have a wall that it hits.

 

For red dead 2 around the story of robbing the first train at the start of the game I'm hitting 50 fps while setting up the explosive cord.  This is at ultra however even dipping all the way down to low settings I can dip to my 50's from 60 to 50.

 

On the train at all low settings I'm still only getting about 70 fps.  Red dead 2 also just looks like a hot mess alot of the times.  blurry, fuzzy.

 

destiny 2 where I feel like it's consistent where it's not lowering or raising fps is around 110 fps at highest settings but I see people posting about having generation(s) old cards consistently sitting around 140's without dipping.

 

On shadow of the tomb raider I was getting from 80 to 100 fps but noticed a lot of benchmarks or seeing other peoples videos with the same build they were about in the 140's.

 

I'm guilty of being new to pc gaming after 15 years and I'm just looking for a baseline of what I'm supposed to be at.

 

 

 

[RAM555789]

I would have expected you to get more like 70-80fps in red dead. Trying checking out your temps on the GPU and CPU, and find out the brand of your PSU and motherboard. Also have you done any kind of overclocking, and enabled XMP on the RAM? If your RAMs not running at full speed its gonna really hurt your CPU performance.

[SkilledRebuilds]

^This.

Read motherboard manual if you are a new user as the LINGO language used will get ingrained over time and you'll have better reference points for self support.

The XMP is what comes to mind first, if its at 2133Mhz Baseline not XMP values.

Ryzen is affected by RAM in a big way internally when not utilising beyond Stock Compatability boot mode DDR4 baseline values of 2133Mhz.

[Jurrunio]

Check memory settings first, CPU-Z can already do it. What frequency and timings are they rated for?

[sonofgump]

did a benchmark 

 

UserBenchmarks: Game 217%, Desk 103%, Work 226%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - 100.2%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3080-Ti - 222.5%
SSD: Kingston SNVS1000G 1TB - 171.7%
RAM: Patriot PSD416G32002 2x16GB - 93.6%
MBD: Asus PRIME X570-PRO

 

also temps taken at another time 

 

Temperature 0        83 degC (180 degF) [0x52] (GPU)
    Temperature 1        100 degC (212 degF) [0x64] (Memory)
    Temperature 2        89 degC (191 degF) [0x58] (Hot Spot)

 

I believe the cpu was 50 to 55

 

I've done nothing to the ram.

 

[sonofgump]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Check memory settings first, CPU-Z can already do it. What frequency and timings are they rated for?

the frequency is

1596.8 mhz

1:16

22.0 clocks

22clocks

22clocks

52 clocks

74 clocks

[Jurrunio]

19 minutes ago, sonofgump said:

the frequency is

1596.8 mhz

1:16

22.0 clocks

22clocks

22clocks

52 clocks

74 clocks

Well you bought a high latency memory kit, 3200MHz should be just 16-18-18-38 to be considered "decent" latency which can still be improved on today (3600MHz 16-19-19-39 for example isn't that much more expensive than 3200 CL16)

 

the lack of change in FPS as you raise the settings is a clear sign of GPU not being the bottleneck, so either the CPU or RAM. 5800X is heavily RAM dependent, so I think it points to the RAM.

 

Timings are manually adjustable, you can raise their voltages and maybe reduce the latency. No guarantees, but it ooesnt cost you money.

[RAM555789]

1 hour ago, sonofgump said:

100 degC (212 degF) [0x64] (Memory)

Pretty sure that your RAM is running way to hot, might need to look at the airflow setup of your case.

@Jurruniothat would be the case right? When googling I actually found this old thread where you said around 40C would be a safe heeat.

 

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

Pretty sure that your RAM is running way to hot, might need to look at the airflow setup of your case.

@Jurruniothat would be the case right? When googling I actually found this old thread where you said around 40C would be a safe heeat.

 

That temperature reading seemed wrong, it actually takes a lot of effort to make RAM hotter than even the CPU. Either the memory has no thermal sensors and the number doesn't mean anything, or UserBenchmark read it wrong. I dont have to repeat on how much of a joke UB is right?

[RAM555789]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I dont have to repeat on how much of a joke UB is right?

I kinda skipped over the UB part in my reading, didn't realize people still used it for testing when there literally hundreds of better options for testing.

[sonofgump]

cpuid hwmonitor was the program I was using to read the temps