Need good CPU Coolers

[MistahHaskins]

Heyo peeps, I have right now a Cooler Master Hyper 212 BE for my Ryzen 5 5600x but I don't think it is doing its job like at all even after reseating the cooler and tightening the cooler as hard as I could without breaking anything.

 

With that being said, I was looking for a new cooler that would fit my case right now. I am using the Fractal Focus G case. I wouldn't mind switching to an AIO if needed, if there is absolutely no other way to cool the cpu air wise. In this case I have two intakes in the front and one exhaust in the back. All fans are running full speeds. The motherboard I am using is Gigabytes' B450M DS3H V2 and the card I am using is Zotac's 1650 Super Twin-Fan. PBO is disabled in the BIOS and there is no overclock on either the CPU or GPU so everything is stock speeds

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Doing certain tests and benchmarks, this doesn't include any software that specifically test temps as I don't have any! If there are some that are free and easy to access and use, feel free to let me know so I can properly show scores or temps after certain artificial loads.

 

On Rainbow Six Siege - 1080p 144hz Low settings with 100% render resolution the temps have been reaching 66-67c. 

 

On Battlefield V - 1080p 144hz Low settings with 100% render resolution the temps after maybe 10 minutes to 15 have reached highs of 68-71c and I basically stopped playing because they wouldn't only get higher and higher

 

On Battlefield 4 - 1080p 144hz Low Settings with 100% render resolution the temps would sometimes reach about 62-63c.

 

All these are within the ballpark of 20%-70% CPU usage as the CPU hasn't been pegged at 100% usage yet

 

There really isn't a price range, looking around the ball park of $100-120 as I am looking for longevity and a cooler that is easy to install. 

[MistahHaskins]

Yes I know that some of these temps like on Battlefield 4 aren't alarming in the slightest, however I still would love to play those other titles without it reaching those temps described. Siege shouldn't be hitting 66c-67c at all, as there isn't much going on half the time

[Blue4130]

7 minutes ago, MistahHaskins said:

Yes I know that some of these temps like on Battlefield 4 aren't alarming in the slightest, however I still would love to play those other titles without it reaching those temps described. Siege shouldn't be hitting 66c-67c at all, as there isn't much going on half the time

Those temps are fine. 

[MistahHaskins]

Just now, Blue4130 said:

Those temps are fine. 

that's not the point here, I love Battlefield but I can't play the newer ones cause the temps are just awful

[MadAnt250]

7 minutes ago, MistahHaskins said:

that's not the point here, I love Battlefield but I can't play the newer ones cause the temps are just awful

No, they are not.

[Blue4130]

1 minute ago, MistahHaskins said:

that's not the point here, I love Battlefield but I can't play the newer ones cause the temps are just awful

You say V runs at ~70c. That is not awful. 

 

I have a 5600x and a giant thermalright fs140. My temps are similar. It's a 65w chip. It doesn't need a cooler like mine. (I had it from a previous build) 

[RONOTHAN##]

Have you looked at Ryzen CPU temps? Their temp curves are weird. 

 

For reference, my custom water cooled 5900X runs hotter at the desktop than yours does in BF4 (granted I'm very bad about letting stuff run in the background and have a 3080 mining in the same loop, but still). Your temps are more than fine, they're actually good. Finding a Ryzen CPU that runs less than 70C under some load is rare. Even with a beefy cooler like the NH-D15 your temps aren't gonna be much better. 

[MistahHaskins]

I just need recommendations for the future

[freeagent]

I use a Thermalright FC140 on my 5900X that I run at +200MHz. I see temps from the mid twenties up to the low to mid 80s under the hardest of loads with a PPT value in the lower 200w range.. That cooler let’s me run my 5600X under all loads with a static oc at 4700MHz with a max PPT value of 155w.. not bad for a 65w CPU.

[Ralfi]

I have a 5600X (Auto Overclocked to 4.6GHz), but using a modified cheap HSF (DeepCool Gammaxx 400 v2) with an Arctic Bionix P120 ARGB fan cable-tied to it.

 

It's a warm day here today (30C outside, so ~25C inside).

 

Make of the below CPU-only tests what you will...

(I can do some CPU & GPU tests if you need them)...

 

CPU Stress Test - All Case fans 100%. Ambient ~25C

 

CPU Stress Test - CPU Fans 33%, Case fans 10% [My Fan Profile]. Ambient ~25

 

CPU Idle - CPU Fans 33%, Case fans 10%. Ambient ~25C.

 

From what i'm starting to see as I begin benching during Summer here, is that you may not need to spend huge money on an air cooler for the 5600X. You can get a good static pressure fan though & attach it to a budget heatsink.

 

[Dogzilla07]

@MistahHaskinsThose temps are chill temps for 5600x. It's a different beast, all notions of what temp is too much compared to older CPUs go out the window. No matter what cooling you get, the temps aren't gonna be low. The cpu is designed to run hot and to clock higher whenever it has room to do so. If you put more cooling it will fight you and run as hot as with weaker cooling.

 

70c is fine, 75c, 80c are also more than fine for 5000 series. There's no throttle temperature, there's no optimal temperature. throttle = optimal = max operating temp = 95c. (not that you want to run it long term at at 95c, but anything under 85c is not gonna degrade your cpu within 5 years, and most likely not within 7-10 years (going by der8auer long term testing from the video below).

 

only 5600x magic temp is 95c, 5800x, 5900x, 5950x magic temp is 90c.

 

Also the amount of heat the ryzen 3000 and 5000 series puts out inside the case at ~85c / ~150w is greatly reduced that the amount any previous CPU put out at those same numbers (if not half), so even the aspect of helping cool your GPU is irrelevant.

 

What i mean with this is with 5600x for instance, your air cooler heatsink will be ice cold* when the CPU is at ~80-85c.

 

 

9 hours ago, MistahHaskins said:

I just need recommendations for the future

for 5600x the best recommendation is the same cooler you're currently using, if you're satisfied with the noise. for upcoming 2023/2024 AMD AM5 (and comparable intel chiplets), the best recommendation is wait until there's reviews of those.

[MistahHaskins]

8 hours ago, Dogzilla07 said:

@MistahHaskinsThose temps are chill temps for 5600x. It's a different beast, all notions of what temp is too much compared to older CPUs go out the window. No matter what cooling you get, the temps aren't gonna be low. The cpu is designed to run hot and to clock higher whenever it has room to do so. If you put more cooling it will fight you and run as hot as with weaker cooling.

 

70c is fine, 75c, 80c are also more than fine for 5000 series. There's no throttle temperature, there's no optimal temperature. throttle = optimal = max operating temp = 95c. (not that you want to run it long term at at 95c, but anything under 85c is not gonna degrade your cpu within 5 years, and most likely not within 7-10 years (going by der8auer long term testing from the video below).

 

only 5600x magic temp is 95c, 5800x, 5900x, 5950x magic temp is 90c.

 

Also the amount of heat the ryzen 3000 and 5000 series puts out inside the case at ~85c / ~150w is greatly reduced that the amount any previous CPU put out at those same numbers (if not half), so even the aspect of helping cool your GPU is irrelevant.

 

What i mean with this is with 5600x for instance, your air cooler heatsink will be ice cold* when the CPU is at ~80-85c.

 

 

for 5600x the best recommendation is the same cooler you're currently using, if you're satisfied with the noise. for upcoming 2023/2024 AMD AM5 (and comparable intel chiplets), the best recommendation is wait until there's reviews of those.

So you are telling me that the 5600x is fine up to 85c? And what do you mean the heat-sink will be ice cold even at 85c? That wouldn't really make sense if its making direct contact

[Dogzilla07]

2 hours ago, MistahHaskins said:

So you are telling me that the 5600x is fine up to 85c? And what do you mean the heat-sink will be ice cold even at 85c? That wouldn't really make sense if its making direct contact

Not for like 24/7 rendering use or something like that if u want to keep it 100% over 4,5 years. But yeah 85c is fine, if it's stock/auto+PBO, or if the voltage is changed in some way.

 

75-80c is more than fine even if the cpu is constantly in use. Der8auer really tortured the 5000 series, and even though there was degradation, they were still mostly fine.

 

The 7nm chips are so small and so dense (the thermal density is insane), the coldplate+heatpipes can't transfer the heat properly, so the heatsink itself/the fins would not be that hot. What I mean with that is, for the 5600x, getting a bigger cooler, the biggest difference would be in noise, but actual temps way less than previous generation CPUs, or monolithic ones like current Intel ones.