pop os does not start correctly

[mich1771771]

I state that I am a beginner. Today I started pop os, enter with password and update from terminal with: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y It tells me that - y is not good and that if you want to do - - - all downgrades or something like that, I do S. after updates, it restarts and crashes. Not being able to do anything. What happened?

[Alexeygridnev1993]

2 hours ago, mich1771771 said:

I state that I am a beginner. Today I started pop os, enter with password and update from terminal with: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y It tells me that - y is not good and that if you want to do - - - all downgrades or something like that, I do S. after updates, it restarts and crashes. Not being able to do anything. What happened?

-y flag mean "answer yes to any prompt". If the system then says "just yes is not good enough, you have to type in something else to confirm" , this means it is about to do something HORRIBLY wrong (a similar thing happened to Linus in the first series of his challenge), so, if you don't understand what it is about to do, it is safer to abort operation. In your case, it seemingly decided to downgrade some of your packages which bricked the system.

 

Reinstall the system and try to do "sudo apt upgrade" rather than "dist-upgrade" and make sure the system is not trying to tell you that you're about to do anything dangerous before pressing Y.

 

Better yet, forget about PopOS and install plain vanilla Ubuntu. It seems like what happened to Linus was not an isolated incident but a symptom of a bigger problem with PopOS. Never had this happened to me in plain Ubuntu.

[lacek]

On 12/10/2021 at 8:43 PM, Alexeygridnev1993 said:

Better yet, forget about PopOS and install plain vanilla Ubuntu. It seems like what happened to Linus was not an isolated incident but a symptom of a bigger problem with PopOS. Never had this happened to me in plain Ubuntu.

S76, write stoftware for their laptops, design keyboards, manage PopOS, now they write their DE.  And sell, package, assemble computers.  I guess there is no time for quality control.

[Alexeygridnev1993]

18 minutes ago, lacek said:

S76, write stoftware for their laptops, design keyboards, manage PopOS, now they write their DE.  And sell, package, assemble computers.  I guess there is no time for quality control.

They're a small team, so, I understand why it happens. But why wasting resources on developing a distro which is ultimately works worse than its base if they could instead spend their limited resources on making sure plain vanilla Ubuntu (or whatever other mainstream distro developed by the others) works well on their hardware out of the box.

[lacek]

1 minute ago, Alexeygridnev1993 said:

They're a small team, so, I understand why it happens. But why wasting resources on developing a distro which is ultimately works worse than its base if they could instead spend their limited resources on making sure plain vanilla Ubuntu (or whatever other mainstream distro developed by the others) works well on their hardware out of the box.

Exactly!

[delph]

I highly recommend you check the manual of commands before you run them.

 

> man apt

will give you a lot of information on apt and the commands it can use, as well as other commands similar to apt that you can use (such as apt-cache). I believe apt-get is just an outdated argument, where apt is enough. It will also explain some of the flags such as "-y", which isn't something you should use when you're just getting started.

 

For debian distros (like PopOS or Ubuntu), you can update in whatever graphical store is included - PopStore is the name of theirs, I believe. Otherwise,

> sudo apt update

> sudo apt upgrade

are solid commands to update and upgrade anything available. (You can use && to chain two commands together. I.e. > sudo apt update && apt upgrade)

 

Best of luck, and if you have more questions, let us know.

[mamamia88]

14 hours ago, Alexeygridnev1993 said:

They're a small team, so, I understand why it happens. But why wasting resources on developing a distro which is ultimately works worse than its base if they could instead spend their limited resources on making sure plain vanilla Ubuntu (or whatever other mainstream distro developed by the others) works well on their hardware out of the box.

I like some of the changes they make though. Pop Shell and it's auto tiling is something I install on all my gnome desktops now.