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2 minutes ago, dkoudijs said:

Yes I have access to wired ethernet, thanks for asking.

Yes I the PC or laptop I'm using does have enough usb ports for the camera's

I will see what I can do to get up to the 16gb of ram.

The video card is where I'm questioning. Why the 2-4 gbs of ram? I always thought the ram on video cards was more to load in assets for gaming.

I get that the video card will be doing encoding, to do the stream but how much assets would be loaded in for this?

 

As for the budget, as I said above its all donated equipment, so I ask around and see what I can get donated.

You don't need that much GPU Vram. 

What I'd look into is called the Quadro k620. Performs similarly to the recommended GT 1030 but you can get them for under $40 on ebay because no one knows they exist. Here you go:

Used Nvidia Quadro K620 2GB DDR3 Video Card Tested and Working | eBay

And you don't need 16gb but I'd recommend it. 

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Could not see where to place this question, as it hits quite a few IT areas.

Need some advice on how strong of a PC I need for streaming

I'm using all donated equipment for this since its a non-profit event (Tournament, 6 hours, model car races)

 

Overview

- Streaming to youtube

- Hope to stream at 1920, 30fps

 

Tech factors

- WIll have at least 3 usb cameras, MC, Track, Finish line

- Web cams are Logitech 922

- Will us OBS to show track, MC, race stats all one one screen

 

How strong of a PC do I need? I can list the specs of what I have now if needed. (Its not much since its all donated stuff)

 

Thanks for any help.

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Streaming, 1920, 30fps, 3 WEBCAM, MC, MORE?

Then your mobo (motherboard lol) need to support much USB device, and if you can't access to LAN, you'll also need a PCI-e Wifi-card.

 

First off, the CPU need to have as much core as possible, then 16-32gigs of RAM is enough (64gigs is overkill), GPU? A GT 1030 or lower with memory about 2-4 gigs is barely enough for you. Just stock cooler is enough.

 

The PC you need will go around 500-800USD, depending on where you buy it also.

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20 minutes ago, dkoudijs said:

Could not see where to place this question, as it hits quite a few IT areas.

Need some advice on how strong of a PC I need for streaming

I'm using all donated equipment for this since its a non-profit event (Tournament, 6 hours, model car races)

 

Overview

- Streaming to youtube

- Hope to stream at 1920, 30fps

 

Tech factors

- WIll have at least 3 usb cameras, MC, Track, Finish line

- Web cams are Logitech 922

- Will us OBS to show track, MC, race stats all one one screen

 

How strong of a PC do I need? I can list the specs of what I have now if needed. (Its not much since its all donated stuff)

 

Thanks for any help.

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2 minutes ago, HQuan said:

Streaming, 1920, 30fps, 3 WEBCAM, MC, MORE?

Then your mobo (motherboard lol) need to support much USB device, and if you can't access to LAN, you'll also need a PCI-e Wifi-card.

 

First off, the CPU need to have as much core as possible, then 16-32gigs of RAM is enough (64gigs is overkill), GPU? A GT 1030 or lower with memory about 2-4 gigs is barely enough for you. Just stock cooler is enough.

 

The PC you need will go around 500-800USD, depending on where you buy it also.

Yes I have access to wired ethernet, thanks for asking.

Yes I the PC or laptop I'm using does have enough usb ports for the camera's

I will see what I can do to get up to the 16gb of ram.

The video card is where I'm questioning. Why the 2-4 gbs of ram? I always thought the ram on video cards was more to load in assets for gaming.

I get that the video card will be doing encoding, to do the stream but how much assets would be loaded in for this?

 

As for the budget, as I said above its all donated equipment, so I ask around and see what I can get donated.

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5 minutes ago, Alder Lake said:

are we talking minecraft 1.8 or 1.18

Sorry, that's funny on my end. MC means master of ceremony's. The person doing the streaming.

We are streaming just webcams, and the tournament screen. The tournament is racing model cars with kids.

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7 minutes ago, Alder Lake said:

are we talking minecraft 1.8 or 1.18

I believe the MC there refers to Masters of Ceremony not minecraft. Good giggles though, thanks.

 

28 minutes ago, dkoudijs said:

How strong of a PC do I need? I can list the specs of what I have now if needed

That would be very much wonderful, considering hand me downs solely for stream box would be good enough. Budget for new parts would be appreciated too.

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2 minutes ago, dkoudijs said:

Yes I have access to wired ethernet, thanks for asking.

Yes I the PC or laptop I'm using does have enough usb ports for the camera's

I will see what I can do to get up to the 16gb of ram.

The video card is where I'm questioning. Why the 2-4 gbs of ram? I always thought the ram on video cards was more to load in assets for gaming.

I get that the video card will be doing encoding, to do the stream but how much assets would be loaded in for this?

 

As for the budget, as I said above its all donated equipment, so I ask around and see what I can get donated.

You don't need that much GPU Vram. 

What I'd look into is called the Quadro k620. Performs similarly to the recommended GT 1030 but you can get them for under $40 on ebay because no one knows they exist. Here you go:

Used Nvidia Quadro K620 2GB DDR3 Video Card Tested and Working | eBay

And you don't need 16gb but I'd recommend it. 

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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9 minutes ago, Alder Lake said:

are we talking minecraft 1.8 or 1.18

We're talking Minecraft 0.0

OP does not mean Minecraft

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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13 minutes ago, dkoudijs said:

Sorry, that's funny on my end. MC means master of ceremony's. The person doing the streaming.

We are streaming just webcams, and the tournament screen. The tournament is racing model cars with kids.

LOL...

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Thanks for the suggestions, I havn't listed the specs, as I'm sifting through the pile of old PC's at work and trying rig something together.

I should be able to get something with 16gb of ram, and maybe a i5 gen 4 or newer hopefully.

 

Thanks for the feedback on which card should work.

I will reach out to other techs and see what they can donate. I know the card at $40 USD does not sound like much, but I'm already putting out money for other things at this torunament. Only so much budget to go around.

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Just now, HQuan said:

2GB graphics card? My iGPU also have 2GB, so why not use iGPU instead of it.

iGPUs usually don't have as strong of an encoder

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Yea, the integrated graphics are my concern as well for the encoding. As I got an older laptop, but its and HP using integrated intel.

I think I need to do a few tests before the tournament to see what the tower vs. laptop can do.

 

The race team has requests for cloned monitors if possbile to show spectators the racing results. Which just adds more load to the machine.

Will have to test and see.

 

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52 minutes ago, dkoudijs said:

Sorry, that's funny on my end. MC means master of ceremony's. The person doing the streaming.

We are streaming just webcams, and the tournament screen. The tournament is racing model cars with kids.

51 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

I believe the MC there refers to Masters of Ceremony not minecraft. Good giggles though, thanks.

50 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

We're talking Minecraft 0.0

OP does not mean Minecraft

38 minutes ago, HQuan said:

:P, they're toys car race...

I think I got the message

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5 hours ago, dkoudijs said:

Thanks for the feedback on which card should work.

I will reach out to other techs and see what they can donate.

Remember to quote few of us when you did find some GPUs.

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4 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

Remember to quote few of us when you did find some GPUs.

Build as it stands right now (Working ok, did a test with 2 cams and software running)

- i5-4570-3.2gghz

- 16gb ddr3 (4 x 4gb)

- 240gb SSD

- 450 watt PSU

- Some asus board, B85M-G

 

Just base windows 10pro, and bare minimum apps, with winareo tweaker to turn off as much as possible

Min apps for project (Foxit reader, race software, obs, chrome-portable, vlc, cccp, notepadd++, xampps, winareo tweaker)

 

All running around 6 GB of ram in use (no chrome, only on when needed)

CPU about 30% load, so looking ok at the moment.

Thanks again for the help. (Will keep looking for a stronger PSU and GPU)

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2 hours ago, dkoudijs said:

Build as it stands right now (Working ok, did a test with 2 cams and software running)

- i5-4570-3.2gghz

- 16gb ddr3 (4 x 4gb)

- 240gb SSD

- 450 watt PSU

- Some asus board, B85M-G

 

Just base windows 10pro, and bare minimum apps, with winareo tweaker to turn off as much as possible

Min apps for project (Foxit reader, race software, obs, chrome-portable, vlc, cccp, notepadd++, xampps, winareo tweaker)

 

All running around 6 GB of ram in use (no chrome, only on when needed)

CPU about 30% load, so looking ok at the moment.

Thanks again for the help. (Will keep looking for a stronger PSU and GPU)

If solved, mark this closed or mark anyone helped you as soltultion. (WARNING: BAD GRAMMAR)

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13 hours ago, dkoudijs said:

Yea, the integrated graphics are my concern as well for the encoding. As I got an older laptop, but its and HP using integrated intel.

I think I need to do a few tests before the tournament to see what the tower vs. laptop can do.

 

The race team has requests for cloned monitors if possbile to show spectators the racing results. Which just adds more load to the machine.

Will have to test and see.

 

I'd like to note that laptop does not support much USB port and can't do multitask well, espically cheap one.

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