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I am looking to build a new rig. I do mostly video editing and gaming. I want to play games like bf4 on high/ultra 1080p at least 60fps. I also want to render videos quickly. I use adobe premiere and sony vegas. I prefer intel/nvidia over amd/amd. Here are my choices. I link benchmarks for convenience. Thanks in advance, Jake.

 

 
 
 

$1266.87 for I5 4670k and gtx 770

 
$1346.87 for I7 4770k and gtx 770
 
$1419.87 for I5 4670k and gtx 780
 
$1499.87 for I7 4770k and gtx 780

 

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I am looking to build a new rig. I do mostly video editing and gaming. I want to play games like bf4 on high/ultra 1080p at least 60fps. I also want to render videos quickly. I use adobe premiere and sony vegas. I prefer intel/nvidia over amd/amd. Here are my choices. I link benchmarks for convenience. Thanks in advance, Jake.

 

 
 
 

$1266.87 for I5 4670k and gtx 770

 
$1346.87 for I7 4770k and gtx 770
 
$1419.87 for I5 4670k and gtx 780
 
$1499.87 for I7 4770k and gtx 780

 

What is your budget?

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What is your budget?

Max $1500. I already know everything else I am going to get I just need to pick cpu/gpu. Here is the rest of the build. 

 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Micro Center) 
Motherboard:  ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($154.99 @ Micro Center) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan:  Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm  Fan  ($13.32 @ NCIX US) 
Other: NZXT Technologies 5.25-Inch Hue RGB LED Color Changing Controller  ($29.94)
Total: $1499.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Here are two builds:

 

i5-4670k & GTX 780

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNKE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNKE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNKE/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1009.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-13 00:17 EDT-0400)

 

i7-4770k & GTX 780

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNU9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNU9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNU9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1089.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-13 00:19 EDT-0400)

 

You will be able to make this happen at well under $1500.  I have seen the MSI GTX 780 go on sale for $450 on Newegg.com, be on the lookout for that deal.  Otherwise, go with an EVGA GTX780, EVGA is an amazing company that excels in customer service, warranty, RMA, and step-up program.

 

If you need 16GB of RAM, get 16GB of RAM, but don't pay more than you have to.  Get the least expensive 1600mhz, 9-9-9-24, 1.5v RAM that you can find.

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Here are two builds:

 

i5-4670k & GTX 780

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNKE

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNKE/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNKE/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Micro Center)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1009.91

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-13 00:17 EDT-0400)

 

i7-4770k & GTX 780

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNQa

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNQa/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNQa/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($319.99 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1139.91

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-13 00:17 EDT-0400)

 

You will be able to make this happen at well under $1500.  I have seen the MSI GTX 780 go on sale for $450 on Newegg.com, be on the lookout for that deal.  Otherwise, go with an EVGA GTX780, EVGA is an amazing company that excels in customer service, warranty, RMA, and step-up program.

I wanted to keep everything else the same.

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I am looking to build a new rig. I do mostly video editing and gaming. I want to play games like bf4 on high/ultra 1080p at least 60fps. I also want to render videos quickly. I use adobe premiere and sony vegas. I prefer intel/nvidia over amd/amd. Here are my choices. I link benchmarks for convenience. Thanks in advance, Jake.

 

 
 
 

$1266.87 for I5 4670k and gtx 770

 
$1346.87 for I7 4770k and gtx 770
 
$1419.87 for I5 4670k and gtx 780
 
$1499.87 for I7 4770k and gtx 780

 

Since you say you edit/render videos in sony vegas and such i would go i7 without a doubt. When it comes to the GPU it's pretty much what do you want to spend and what do you need, i chose the 780 because it's pretty cheap and it's a beast and runs all of my games (even arma 3 (high-ultra) @ 60fps

 

So i7-4770k + GTX 780 is what i would recommend for you.

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The i5-4670K and GTX 770 combo is a better value. If you want some more gaming performance, GTX 780. i7s aren't necessary for gaming (yet).

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Then get the i7 and 780.  I'm just letting you know it can be done for less.

 

Motherboard doesn't impact performance  Don't spend more than you need to.  $100 or less for this component, unless you absolutely have to have a certain feature, no sense in buying a super fancy motherboard, it does nothing.

 

Power supply, the CX600M is an excellent value option, it performs extremely well, semi-modular, and quiet.  I have one myself for my i5 and 780, works like a dream, and for only $45?  Can't beat that.

 

If you want to get the Samsung EVO, go for it, but it is not necessary.  The rated speeds for SSDs are for large file transfers only, day to day tasks will be accomplished at the same speed across SSD brands.  Also, you can save money by being patient.  You will wait 5 minutes compared to 3 minutes for a file transfer, and you can save yourself $50 that can be used elsewhere.

 

CM Hyper 212 EVO is arguably the best CPU cooler you can buy.  It is that perfect mix of price to performance.

 

For your case, I don't think you should spend a ton of money here.  Case has no impact on performance, get one that is big enough and nice looking that will suit your needs.  Buy a less expensive case and fill it with quality fans, than buying a really nice case and be stuck with sub-par case fans.  The case I suggested in excellent quality, and on sale.  Pair it with some Cougar Vortex PWM fans for $10 each and you are set!

 

Here is my updated recommended build.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qObt
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qObt/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qObt/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY Optima 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1239.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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The i5-4670K and GTX 770 combo is a better value. If you want some more gaming performance, GTX 780. i7s aren't necessary for gaming (yet).

Did you read my post? I also do video editing. Now it is a matter of the cost savings vs the performance hit of the i5.

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Then get the i7 and 780. I'm just letting you know it can be done for less.

Don't spend more than you need to. $100 or less for this component, unless you absolutely have to have a certain feature, no sense in buying a super fancy motherboard, it does nothing.

Power supply, the CX600M is an excellent value option, it performs extremely well, semi-modular, and quiet. I have one myself for my i5 and 780, works like a dream, and for only $45? Can't beat that.

If you want to get the Samsung EVO, go for it, but it is not necessary. The rated speeds for SSDs are for large file transfers only, day to day tasks will be accomplished at the same speed across SSD brands. Also, you can save money by being patient. You will wait 5 minutes compared to 3 minutes for a file transfer, and you can save yourself $50 that can be used elsewhere.

CM Hyper 212 EVO is arguably the best CPU cooler you can buy. It is that perfect mix of price to performance.

For your case, I don't think you should spend a ton of money here. Case has no impact on performance, get one that is big enough and nice looking that will suit your needs. Buy a less expensive case and fill it with quality fans, than buying a really nice case and be stuck with sub-par case fans. The case I suggested in excellent quality, and on sale. Pair it with some Cougar Vortex PWM fans for $10 each and you are set!

Here is my updated recommended build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qObt

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qObt/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qObt/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Micro Center)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: PNY Optima 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1239.88

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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I need the 16gb ram and a 250gb SSD. I want the features of the extreme 6. The Evo is more reliable which is really important to me.

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Did you read my post? I also do video editing. Now it is a matter of the cost savings vs the performance hit of the i5.

I'm aware of your video editing, but unless you do it professionally and regularly, I honestly still don't think an i7 is all that necessary. If you're just doing it as a hobby or because you want to make some money on the side doing projects, I really, really don't think an i7 is as necessary as you might believe. But if you value that performance bump, go nuts with an i7 and GTX 770 combo. If you have the money, get the best of both worlds.

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I say the PCPartPicker build you yourself first posted is perfect.

 

Because here's the reality:

 

The i5-4670K might be a slightly better value as far as getting the most bang for your buck goes; however, the i7-4770K & GTX 780 will push you further in your gaming (GTX 780) and your rendering (i7-4770K) than saving only $80.

If we were talking over $120+ difference, I would automatically recommend not to do it. But at $80, it changes things. If you have a $1,500 budget, that's the sweet spot for best performance.

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I say the PCPartPicker build you yourself first posted is perfect.

Because here's the reality:

The i5-4670K might be a slightly better value as far as getting the most bang for your buck goes; however, the i7-4770K & GTX 780 will push you further in your gaming (GTX 780) and your rendering (i7-4770K) than saving only $80.

If we were talking over $120+ difference, I would automatically recommend not to do it. But at $80, it changes things. If you have a $1,500 budget, that's the sweet spot for best performance.

So you think the extra performance is worth the $230?

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I updated my build to have 16GB of RAM, that is not only less expensive than the one you selected, but has better heat spreaders as well.

 

Enlighten me as to what features you must have that the Extreme6 has and the Fatality Killer doesn't?  Save your money.

 

PNY is plenty reliable, you are getting 240GB for $90 compared to $140 for the EVO.  They both function the same.  Save your money.

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You do not have to spend $1,500 to get the machine that you want.  If you want to overspend for the same performance, be my guest.

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Here is a side by side comparison of the features of the Extreme6 vs. the Killer

 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?SelectedModel=Z87+Extreme6&SelectedModel=Fatal1ty+Z87+Killer

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So you think the extra performance is worth the $230?

 

Again, it depends what kind of performance you want out of the machine and for how long. And also, as I mentioned - For gaming, no, it's not worth the $230. (at least as of right now, in the future it will be for sure) For rendering and other tasks, yes, it may be well worth it.

 

But again, I am a full on geek... Computers is just what I do 24/7 and spend/make most my money on... So majority of the time, the $230 I would save would end up going back into something tech related, if not another PC anyways. If you have better use of the $230, for example if you still need a monitor.. Then I say save the money because your performance will still be very good.

 

It's a tough one, and merely an opinion. But I already mentioned what the difference will be (roughly) and which is more bang for your buck - aka price-to-performance. But if you already dedicated a $1,500 budget to your computer, I say just do it and don't look back. You'll more than enjoy the PC.

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Here is a side by side comparison of the features of the Extreme6 vs. the Killer

 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?SelectedModel=Z87+Extreme6&SelectedModel=Fatal1ty+Z87+Killer

I need at least 8 sata ports. I also like the dual lan.

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