System won't post :(

[FabioSanson]

So a couple of days ago, I realized my screen was flickering and almost panicked, I "upgraded" the gpu in a secondary system at home. After that I decided to upgrade the new gpu drivers since I was very much aware they were old. After this, system just won't post. At all. No matter what I do.

 

I've reseated the gpu, the ram (without the gpu it will post without a problem) etc but nothing works.

 

I deleted all of the radeon drivers and almost magically, with the gpu in the system, it posted. So I went and installed all the newest software.

 

And now it won't post. Again.

 

Same process repeated but installing original (old) drivers, and again, won't post.

 

I basically have run out of ideas of what could be causing the system (while having the gpu seated) won't post if drivers are installed.

 

Any ideas? 

 

Gigabyte RX470 4gbs

I7 4770T

8gb Ram

 

[GamerDude]

The usual, what PSU are you using? What was your 'old' card anyway? Did you run DDU to clean out all traces of previous drivers?

[FabioSanson]

20 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

The usual, what PSU are you using? What was your 'old' card anyway? Did you run DDU to clean out all traces of previous drivers?

Thermaltake Toughpower 675w

It was a 1050 that had died some weeks ago

Honestly I just tried with AMD cleaner since in the past it had worked great with my main build

[Mr_Ketzal]

I would imagine that the next steps to take would be to do a complete revision of the system (teardown) and check out your crucial components to see that nothing is damaged (Gpu, Psu) and that the motherboard has no over tightened screws that may have cracked the pcb. Also please provide us with the dates you may have purchased the psu and the gpu, so if so we can troubleshoot any new recent compatibility issues and see the hardwares rated life expectancy.

[GamerDude]

8 minutes ago, FabioSanson said:

Thermaltake Toughpower 675w

It was a 1050 that had died some weeks ago

Honestly I just tried with AMD cleaner since in the past it had worked great with my main build

So, the GTX1050 died recently, and you'd swapped it out with the RX470, but did you run DDU to uninstall all traces of the GeForce driver BEFORE swapping out the cards? If the GTX1050 can't post and you have to use the RX470, I believe you can still get to desktop, run DDU in 'Safe Mode' and remove all traces of nVidia driver first. After restart, you can, if you choose to do so, run DDU again (or you can use AMDCleanuputility) to remove all traces of AMD drivers so that when you restart yet again, you can do a clean install of AMD Adrenalin driver (without the worry that a previous AMD driver install might mess up the newer install). One thing to note about driver installations, they can be finicky.

[FabioSanson]

45 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

So, the GTX1050 died recently, and you'd swapped it out with the RX470, but did you run DDU to uninstall all traces of the GeForce driver BEFORE swapping out the cards? If the GTX1050 can't post and you have to use the RX470, I believe you can still get to desktop, run DDU in 'Safe Mode' and remove all traces of nVidia driver first. After restart, you can, if you choose to do so, run DDU again (or you can use AMDCleanuputility) to remove all traces of AMD drivers so that when you restart yet again, you can do a clean install of AMD Adrenalin driver (without the worry that a previous AMD driver install might mess up the newer install). One thing to note about driver installations, they can be finicky.

It's a no go here... I can post through the motherboard display, but gpu still nothing. Fans to max and radeon software will prompt "No AMD graphics card detected" when installing.

 

Kinda getting the feeling something went severely down hill with this card

[FabioSanson]

56 minutes ago, Mr_Ketzal said:

I would imagine that the next steps to take would be to do a complete revision of the system (teardown) and check out your crucial components to see that nothing is damaged (Gpu, Psu) and that the motherboard has no over tightened screws that may have cracked the pcb. Also please provide us with the dates you may have purchased the psu and the gpu, so if so we can troubleshoot any new recent compatibility issues and see the hardwares rated life expectancy.

Already checked every other piece of hardware, it's all functioning properly, that's what led to the conclusion the problem is the gpu. I could provide you with the date although it's fairly pointless. The gpu wasn't really brand new and I have no realistic way of telling for how long it's been in use other than the physical appearance 

[Mark Kaine]

use DDU in safe mode. Then reinstall your drivers.  Sounds like the system didn't like the "hot swapping" of gpus (also the amd cleanup utility is awful in my opinion/experience)

 

are you sure its a genuine rx470 anyway? Maybe post some pics.

 

[GamerDude]

7 hours ago, FabioSanson said:

It's a no go here... I can post through the motherboard display, but gpu still nothing. Fans to max and radeon software will prompt "No AMD graphics card detected" when installing.

 

Kinda getting the feeling something went severely down hill with this card

Any chance to test the RX470 in another rig, a friend's perhaps? You'd mentioned a secondary system, so which system is the RX 470 in? Didcha try it in both systems?

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

Try to clear your CMOS. It works magic sometimes  .
Unplug PC, Remove mobo battery, press and hold the power button for like 10 seconds. Then let the pc sit for like 15 minutes and try again with the radeon card.
(Also make sure your windows 10 is fully updated if possible, assuming it's windows 10/11?). 

[FabioSanson]

12 hours ago, Edgar R. Zakarian said:

Try to clear your CMOS. It works magic sometimes  .
Unplug PC, Remove mobo battery, press and hold the power button for like 10 seconds. Then let the pc sit for like 15 minutes and try again with the radeon card.
(Also make sure your windows 10 is fully updated if possible, assuming it's windows 10/11?). 

Hey, just tried it. Absolutely no change whatsoever 

[FabioSanson]

13 hours ago, GamerDude said:

Any chance to test the RX470 in another rig, a friend's perhaps? You'd mentioned a secondary system, so which system is the RX 470 in? Didcha try it in both systems?

I tested it in the other rig and again won't post, same as before, fans will go to max but nothing beyond that point, no post

[GamerDude]

Wow, sorry to hear that. Is the RX470 a recent purchase from eBay or similar sites? If so, would suggest you try to get your money back. That card sounds like it's faulty.... 

[Guest]

I tried these forums, finally someone was kind enough to mention that they sell watch batteries.  I changed the motherboard's watch battery.  I haven't had a problem since.  I am still prepared to try booting without ram.  no idea if that helps.

Edited January 20, 2022 by Stephen7
Not sure if applies to "posts with onboard graphics". desperately trying to mention they still have a watch battery on the motherboards.