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Cashac
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I think I potentially diagnosed my problem My Ram isn't working properly. But surely the bios would work still right?

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ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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Nope, BIOS needs a functioning computer to work!

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Just now, Mel0nMan said:

Nope, BIOS needs a functioning computer to work!

So with that understanding I just need to replace the RAM to start - It currently just gets to the blinking underscore screen

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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2 minutes ago, Cashac said:

So with that understanding I just need to replace the RAM to start - It currently just gets to the blinking underscore screen

Well if you've determined that's the problem...

Have you tried booting with one stick in channel 1, then swapping out that stick for another one, etc until you've tried all the sticks in slot 1?

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Just now, Mel0nMan said:

Well if you've determined that's the problem...

Have you tried booting with one stick in channel 1, then swapping out that stick for another one, etc until you've tried all the sticks in slot 1?

I have 4 channels, I have tried booting both sticks on each channel.

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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14 minutes ago, Cashac said:

I have 4 channels

 

if this is the X570 system you've been posting about, no you don't. You have two channels and each channel has two slots. 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

if this is the X570 system you've been posting about, no you don't. You have two channels and each channel has two slots. 

OK then yes that's it but yeah I've tried both sticks individually on each channel

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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6 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

if this is the X570 system you've been posting about, no you don't. You have two channels and each channel has two slots. 

I don't know how you guys diag without a lick of information..... lol. Where's the X570 system? His profile is basic mode.

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4 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I don't know how you guys diag without a lick of information..... lol. Where's the X570 system? His profile is basic mode.

MSI MEG UNIFY X570

I was getting C8 which I believe is an unspecified memory error

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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2 minutes ago, Cashac said:

MSI MEG UNIFY X570

I was getting C8 which I believe is an unspecified memory error

And you've cleared the CMOS already I presume? Were you playing around with any memory settings before this started happening? 

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2 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

And you've cleared the CMOS already I presume? Were you playing around with any memory settings before this started happening? 

I have cleared CMOS, Flashed BIOS

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2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

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ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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59 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Any AMI code that starts with a C, is generally represented as CPU error, not memory. 

These are all the codes I'm getting
 

C8, 54, 15,9A, 5A, 99, 98, 9C, b4

 

PC SPECS:
ASUS Pro Art X570,
Ryzen 9 5900X,
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CL16 3200Mhz DDR4 ram,
Gigabyte GeForce 3070,
2 TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2. LaCie 4TB Raid Pro External with SD Slot

Mechanical Keyboard, Shure MV7, GH5 for Webcam, Loupedeck CT
ASUS Pro Art 32in Color Calibrated Monitor, LG C1 48in OLED TV, FeelWorld F6 5.7" for basic monitoring of content.

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7 hours ago, Cashac said:

These are all the codes I'm getting
 

C8, 54, 15,9A, 5A, 99, 98, 9C, b4

 

The codes are in my sig. Second post in the thread has general AMI codes. They are not different from manufacturers. 

 

The codes are simply telling you the post state and you see where it got hung up. Can always try the diagnostic speaker instead...

 

I'd try a different cpu I'd you have one available though.

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9 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I don't know how you guys diag without a lick of information..... lol. Where's the X570 system? His profile is basic mode.

He's posted 2-3 other threads all about the same parts.

 

Also people thinking they have four channels because they have four memory slots is way more common than people here having systems that really support quad channel.

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

 

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