High end system without GPU

kempusss · October 10, 2021

Budget (including currency): I don't have a strict limit, but I don't want to overspend for little performance gain.

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: New AAA games, mostly shooters. I will also use the the PC for programming and machine learning.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I currently have gtx 1070 that I will use in this build. When the gpu prices come down I am planning to buy 3080ti or maybe new 4000 series.

I create a list with prices converted from Polish shops (taxes included, I thought to add my own prices as pcpartpicker saddly isn't supporting any shops in Poland): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QNDBc.

I am not sure about few parts:

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz CL14. I am planning to OC it for better performance (though I never play with memory OC, but I am willing to learn). I read 2 x 16 is easier to OC than 4x8 and performance should be similar.
SSD: I am planning to install Windows on 1TB drive and Linux on the another. Is the 980 pro worth the extra money or should I get 1TB 970 evo plus for 155 $?
Motherboard: This one is the hardest, for know I chose asus b550 strix-e, but maybe it is too much for this build? I want also to try OC the cpu a bit and I am sure I want b550.
PSU: will 850W be enough for future GPU? Maybe I should buy 1000W for 225$?
CPU: I know that new Intel CPUs will be released shortly, but I prefer not to buy first iteration of new technology. Also I think the prices won't come down too fast in Poland (but maybe I am wrong)?

I would like this build to last for a few years. I hope to get good quality parts with the whole system being not to loud with nice temperatures.

Any thoughts or hints will be highly helpful.

Edit. 1. added section about cpu.

emosun · October 10, 2021

44 minutes ago, kempusss said:

I don't have a strict limit, but I don't want to overspend for little performance gain.

do you care at all about quality as youve stated you want longevity but are building with consumer grade parts

IPD · October 10, 2021

IDK what you already have, so it may be silly to upgrade right now, considering how serviceable parts from the GTX 10 series (era) still are. If you already have 8th gen Core I7 and DDR4 2666....you might really not get a lot of headroom from upgrading now; it might be better to wait a year after 12 gen Intel is out and DDR5 is common.

I can't speak to RAM overlocking. That said, my rule of thumb has always been that a faster/superior part > overclocking/volting/amping a lesser product. DDR4 comes in 4800+ flavors now, and I would 100% go with those speeds (to whatever your Mobo and CPU can handle) vs trying to hyperspeed a lesser RAM module.

If money isn't the object, then get a generic 240GB NVME m.2 and partition it; windows on one side, linux on the other. Should be plenty of space (128GB on either side) for basic functions and files. Go with 500GB if you are really paranoid about Windows 11 install size. Then I'd get a 1TB SSD for everything you want to store.

IMHO, 850w PSU is fine for anything but xx90 GPU's. But the safe bet is to calculate it manually. Or at least guesstimate a 500w for everything BUT the GPU, and add on power from there.

kempusss · October 11, 2021

19 hours ago, emosun said:

do you care at all about quality as youve stated you want longevity but are building with consumer grade parts

Can you please elaborate? I thought i chose some good quality parts.

19 hours ago, IPD said:

IDK what you already have, so it may be silly to upgrade right now, considering how serviceable parts from the GTX 10 series (era) still are. If you already have 8th gen Core I7 and DDR4 2666....you might really not get a lot of headroom from upgrading now; it might be better to wait a year after 12 gen Intel is out and DDR5 is common.

I have a system with i5-5675c on ddr3L, so there should be quite visible performance gain (at least I hope for it).

19 hours ago, IPD said:

I can't speak to RAM overlocking. That said, my rule of thumb has always been that a faster/superior part > overclocking/volting/amping a lesser product. DDR4 comes in 4800+ flavors now, and I would 100% go with those speeds (to whatever your Mobo and CPU can handle) vs trying to hyperspeed a lesser RAM module.

Isn't the inity fabric limited to 2000 on ryzen CPU? So there won't be visible difference above 4000? I wanted to go something like 3600 cl 14 or 3800 cl 18 on this ram if possible. Or maybe I will buy 3600 cl 14 ripjaws and try to OC it (the price is about 60 $ higher)

19 hours ago, IPD said:

If money isn't the object, then get a generic 240GB NVME m.2 and partition it; windows on one side, linux on the other. Should be plenty of space (128GB on either side) for basic functions and files. Go with 500GB if you are really paranoid about Windows 11 install size. Then I'd get a 1TB SSD for everything you want to store.

I planned to have 1 TB for Windows and 500 gb for Linux. Now I am working on similar setup but with 500 gb for Windows and looking at the new games size it will be too small. And I am thinking if it is better to go with 980 pro or 970 evo plus for this bigger drive.

19 hours ago, IPD said:

IMHO, 850w PSU is fine for anything but xx90 GPU's. But the safe bet is to calculate it manually. Or at least guesstimate a 500w for everything BUT the GPU, and add on power from there.

So maybe I will go with 1000W, at least it should be more future-proof.

Do you have any recommendations for the motherboard as this is my biggest question?