RX 590 crashing any time it reaches 80 degrees.

[Speeed]

Hi, a few weeks ago I purchased a second hand RX 590 off eBay and had issues right away with it overheating and then crashing. I managed to limit fps in games and limit it's performance for a while but it's started again with it reaching 80c then crashing again and had 2 bsods with a code referring to corrupt drivers. I've tried undervolting but I can't benchmark the card at 100% util without it reaching max temp and then crashing, I'm a little stuck on what to do or whether I should just refund the card and likely deal with similar issues for my next card.

 

For reference my PC specs are:

Ryzen 5 2600

16gb Patriot viper 3000mhz 

MSI Armor RX590 8G OC

MSI B450M PRO VDH MAX

Corsair CV650

Corsair 275R Airflow with 3 Intake and 1 outtake (previously running 2 intake 2 outtake but still had the same issues) 

 

Thank you.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

ddu the drivers, reinstall, try again

 

it looks like someone might have flashed a bios that has a max temp limit of 80c on it, but i cant know for sure without a look at the bios of the card

[BiotechBen]

So for the temps, I'd check the cooler for any debris, and I'm also tune the fan curve in Radeon software. I set an aggressive curve for my 480 blower and that fixed a lot of the overheating and performance problems. Went from 86 to 78 under full load.

[Speeed]

30 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

ddu the drivers, reinstall, try again

 

it looks like someone might have flashed a bios that has a max temp limit of 80c on it, but i cant know for sure without a look at the bios of the card

I used ddu to remove and reinstall the drivers and then loaded up superposition and all seemed to be going well, it peaked at 80c and then throttled the card and it dipped below it's turbo speed but then it did the same thing, it's progress but I can't really think why it half worked. Is there a way to just simply limit the overall output of the card? 

[BiotechBen]

5 minutes ago, Speeed said:

I used ddu to remove and reinstall the drivers and then loaded up superposition and all seemed to be going well, it peaked at 80c and then throttled the card and it dipped below it's turbo speed but then it did the same thing, it's progress but I can't really think why it half worked. Is there a way to just simply limit the overall output of the card? 

Most cards of that era have a thermal target of 80-85C before downclocking/throttling. 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

5 minutes ago, Speeed said:

I used ddu to remove and reinstall the drivers and then loaded up superposition and all seemed to be going well, it peaked at 80c and then throttled the card and it dipped below it's turbo speed but then it did the same thing, it's progress but I can't really think why it half worked. Is there a way to just simply limit the overall output of the card? 

sounds lit the throttle point may be set to 80c.

Could you dump the vbios with atiflash or gpuz and post it so i could take a look?

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, BiotechBen said:

Most cards of that era have a thermal target of 80-85C before downclocking/throttling. 

my rx480 will go to like 90c before majorly throttlying, 85c throttle point

[BiotechBen]

1 minute ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

my rx480 will go to like 90c before majorly throttlying, 85c throttle point

My 480 blower was beginning the throttle at 80ish and noticably underperforming when it got to 85C. The default curve never took the fans beyond 45%.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 minute ago, BiotechBen said:

My 480 blower was beginning the throttle at 80ish and noticably underperforming when it got to 85C. The default curve never took the fans beyond 45%.

Same for the fan curve, it gets to like 40% once it hits 90c. every time I have a system crash it resets the fans to default so I lose a huge amount of perf due to trottling

[Speeed]

3 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

my rx480 will go to like 90c before majorly throttlying, 85c throttle point

I've just done another superposition run and with an aggressive fan curve set to kick in fully at 70 and it made it further in the scene but once again, it crashed. If I drop the clock speed of the card down to a point where it won't peak above 70-75 will that be effective then leave the voltage at auto? 

[Speeed]

Just now, Speeed said:

I've just done another superposition run and with an aggressive fan curve set to kick in fully at 70 and it made it further in the scene but once again, it crashed. If I drop the clock speed of the card down to a point where it won't peak above 70-75 will that be effective then leave the voltage at auto? 

Another thing I'm considering is dismantling the card and reapplying the thermal paste but performing effectively open heart surgery on a £250 card scares me a little

[BiotechBen]

1 minute ago, Speeed said:

Another thing I'm considering is dismantling the card and reapplying the thermal paste but performing effectively open heart surgery on a £250 card scares me a little

The 590 is a hot card to begin with, and not a huge value card, so I wouldn't recommend doing that in this current environment unless you have confidence that you can do it. It's a relatively simple process, but can be intimidating.

[Speeed]

12 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

sounds lit the throttle point may be set to 80c.

Could you dump the vbios with atiflash or gpuz and post it so i could take a look?

Here's the vbios pulled from gpuz

 

RX590 thermal issues.rom

[Helpful Tech Witch]

7 minutes ago, Speeed said:

Here's the vbios pulled from gpuz

 

RX590 thermal issues.rom 256 kB · 0 downloads

ill take a look at it in pbe in a bit, ive got to do something