Proxmox Setup Suggestions

[sugarpeter21]

Idea: 

I currently have two machines at home with config below:

 

Machine 1:

Case: Lenovo ThinkstationC30 

CPU:2 x E5-2640V2

Motherboard: Lenovo Proprietary 

Memory: 64GB ECC Ram

Storage:

120GB MSata Drive for Proxmox OS

1TB 7200rpm Sratch Drive

2x 3.5 Seagate NAS IronWolf 2 TB  ( Slow VM storage-ZFS Mirror-0)

2x 2.5 Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500 GB (Fast VM storage- No RAID/ZFS)

PSU: 800W Gold

Networking:

Intel Quad port NIC 

1 Onbaord

GPU:

1.Nvidia K4000 PCI passthrough to a Gaming VM

2.HD6450 1GB for Server Video out

 

Current VMs list :

Firewall: 4 Cores 6 GB (Currently using 20% CPU and 55% RAM)

Load Balancer: 4 Cores 8 GB (Currently using 34% CPU and 75% RAM)

Xpenology: 2 Cores 2 GB (Currently using 1% CPU and 39% RAM)

Ubuntu-1: 4 Cores 2 GB( Currently using 2% CPU and 33% RAM)

Ubuntu-2: 2 Cores 2 GB( Currently using 1% CPU and 30% RAM)

Ubuntu-3: 2 Cores 1 GB( Currently using 7% CPU and 92% RAM)

Windows VM : 8 Cores 8 GB with Nvidia K4000 passthrough

 

I have a Synology 718+ with 2x4 TB drives installed for VM backups from Poxmox.

 

Machine 2:

Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3600X

Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard

GPU: RTX 2080 Super

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Storage:

256 GB M.2 SSD

2 TB Seagate Firecuda gaming

PSU: Corsair TX650m

 

I am thinking to merge the above to machines into one with below config:

 

Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ( already have )

Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX ( already have )

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (will buy based on suggestions)

GPU1:RTX 2080 Super(For Gaming VM) ( already have )

GPU2: AMD HD 3450(for Proxmox) ( already have )

Memory:Crucial Ballistix 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (will buy based on suggestions)

CPU Cooler: Noctua NHD15 (will buy based on suggestions)

Boot SDD: 250GB M.2 SSD ( already have )

PSU: Corsair 650W ( already have )

Storage:

2x 2.5 Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500 GB ( already have )

2x 3.5 Seagate IronWolf, 2 TB, NAS ( already have )

1x 2.5 2TB Firecuda ( already have )

Networking:

Intel Quad port NIC ( already have )

1 Onbaord ( already have )

 

I have below questions :

1. Is this a good idea?

2. If point 1 is a good/decent idea should 5950x is enough or a overkill ? will 3950x would do ?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Why do you want to merge the systems? 

 

Id personally not merge them as I like to keep them separate so I can mess with either system and not take down everything. 

 

 

[Pixel5]

what exactly are all these VMs doing?

 

generally combining these systems may save you some power but the question is if its a good idea at all cause now you got a single point of failure.

[sugarpeter21]

11 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Why do you want to merge the systems? 

 

Id personally not merge them as I like to keep them separate so I can mess with either system and not take down everything. 

 

 

a few reasons:

Age of Machine 1 

Performance of Machine 1 eventually will go down and lack of product availability.

Power of Machine 1

Plus I am not able to utilise hardware of machine 2 

It  runs home internet which i can quickly route if needed to fix things hence the idea.

Plus single core performance of 5950x 

 

5 minutes ago, Pixel5 said:

what exactly are all these VMs doing?

 

generally combining these systems may save you some power but the question is if its a good idea at all cause now you got a single point of failure.

Current VMs list :

Firewall: Wifi and house internet

Load Balancer: to do certifications for work

Xpenology: to take automated backups of Load balancer ,firewall and server as a network drive

Ubuntu-1: Splunk + Pihole

Ubuntu-2: Proxy for a friend

Ubuntu-3: Home Assistant

Windows VM : currently being used as a terminal to manage network and some browsing

 

below are few reasons why i am thinking to merge them:

Age of Machine 1 

Performance of Machine 1 eventually will go down and lack of product availability.

Power of Machine 1

Plus I am not able to utilise hardware of machine 2 

It  runs home internet which i can quickly route if needed to fix things hence the idea.

Plus single core performance of 5950x 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

7 hours ago, sugarpeter21 said:

a few reasons:

Age of Machine 1 

Performance of Machine 1 eventually will go down and lack of product availability.

Power of Machine 1

Plus I am not able to utilise hardware of machine 2 

It  runs home internet which i can quickly route if needed to fix things hence the idea.

Plus single core performance of 5950x 

Id probably just get. newer server to replace server 1 then. Then you get the power savings.

 

Id really try to avoid having the system do internet and gaming, just seems like too much to deal with, and I don't see the benfit.

 

All of those vms you have listed don't need much cpu power + ram, so something like a nuc/mini pc should be able to fill your needs here.

[sugarpeter21]

On 7/22/2021 at 5:06 PM, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id probably just get. newer server to replace server 1 then. Then you get the power savings.

 

Id really try to avoid having the system do internet and gaming, just seems like too much to deal with, and I don't see the benfit.

 

All of those vms you have listed don't need much cpu power + ram, so something like a nuc/mini pc should be able to fill your needs here.

okay

I have always had my doubts about NUC able run all the Vms I have mentioned .

Happy to be enlightened in this topic so i can plan better