%100 CPU usage when playing RDR2

[zd1907]

hi guys, i have a problem about this game when i play rdr2 im getting %100 cpu usage and  cpu temperature rises above 70 degrees

 

There is no such problem in other games like(EFT,DBD,R6)etc.

 

 

pc spec

 

i7 9700k

gigabyte rtx 2080 super

16 gb of ram

 

[Levent]

Its not a problem if game utilizes 100% your CPU. Your temperatures are also fine, unless you are having less than expected framerates there are no problems here.

[zd1907]

Just now, Levent said:

Its not a problem if game utilizes 100% your CPU. Your temperatures are also fine, unless you are having less than expected framerates there are no problems here.

 

with dlss getting 120+ fps. i play this game 300hours but i have never seen anything like this before

[cacoe]

DLSS being enabled could have removed a GPU bottleneck on the CPU.

 

I gave RDR2 a whirl with DLSS last night but didn't really look at CPU utlisation.

 

Not saying this is what's happening but it's a possiblity..

 

Easy to test, try turning off DLSS and see if there's a change. Also run with settings like you did prior to DLSS being a thing and see what happens.

 

You could also try playing at the internal DLSS render resolution and see if that still exhibits the same behaviour. (with DLSS off)

 

[zd1907]

11 minutes ago, cacoe said:

DLSS being enabled could have removed a GPU bottleneck on the CPU.

 

I gave RDR2 a whirl with DLSS last night but didn't really look at CPU utlisation.

 

Not saying this is what's happening but it's a possiblity..

 

Easy to test, try turning off DLSS and see if there's a change. Also run with settings like you did prior to DLSS being a thing and see what happens.

 

You could also try playing at the internal DLSS render resolution and see if that still exhibits the same behaviour. (with DLSS off)

 

 

Task manager like that

[cacoe]

What I said still stands, try it, and you're probably better testing with MSI Afterburner so you can use the OSD to see what's happening inside the game.

[zd1907]

8 minutes ago, cacoe said:

What I said still stands, try it, and you're probably better testing with MSI Afterburner so you can use the OSD to see what's happening inside the game.

 

[cacoe]

Did you try turning off DLSS? Also, there's an option to turn on a view for each core, so that might help shed light on what's happening.

 

Also 70C isn't going to break your CPU and you're not actually hitting 100% usage all the time if the screenshot is anything to go by.

[zd1907]

8 minutes ago, cacoe said:

Did you try turning off DLSS? Also, there's an option to turn on a view for each core, so that might help shed light on what's happening.

 

Also 70C isn't going to break your CPU and you're not actually hitting 100% usage all the time if the screenshot is anything to go by.

 

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[cacoe]

On a per core basis, you're looking pretty normal for utilisation, there's a bit of a spread. One thing you can try is limiting maximum FPS to your display's refresh rate with nvidia control panel, otherwise your system is putting in more effort than required. I can see it's struggling to get the same framerate in st denis, which isn't surprising but if you're out in the wild your system is being pushed harder than it needs to be.

[zd1907]

2 minutes ago, cacoe said:

On a per core basis, you're looking pretty normal for utilisation, there's a bit of a spread. One thing you can try is limiting maximum FPS to your display's refresh rate with nvidia control panel, otherwise your system is putting in more effort than required. I can see it's struggling to get the same framerate in st denis, which isn't surprising but if you're out in the wild your system is being pushed harder than it needs to be.

Using Vsync on in the game and refresh rate 144

[cacoe]

I mean this is going off on a tangent but you're not getting 144fps so you might need to crank some settings down to reach that unless you have a gsync or freesync display.

 

Back on topic.... everything seems fine.

 

I mean it seems that way to me, anyone else want to pitch in?

 

It's like task manager is reporting 100% usage, as in each core is being used, but of those individual cores, they are only using a percentage of them, not 100% each core which is normal.

[unclewebb]

@zd1907 The CPU information that the Task Manager reports on the Processes tab should be ignored. Instead, look at the CPU information that is shown on the Details tab.

 

The Windows CPU Utilization data on the Processes tab is a meaningless number. The 9700K has a Base Frequency of 3.60 GHz.

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/186604/intel-core-i7-9700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

 

When your CPU is running at 4600 MHz, Windows scales the CPU Usage up. If actual CPU usage is 75%, Windows will report CPU Utilization as,

 

Actual CPU Usage = 75%

Utilization = 75% X (4600 MHz / 3600 MHz)

Utilization = 96% 

 

On Intel CPUs that use a high percentage of turbo boost, the CPU data on the Processes tab does not tell you anything. The Details tab shows CPU usage. 

 

Here is an example on a 10875H. These mobile CPUs have a low Base Frequency of 2.30 GHz so they use a high percentage of turbo boost to reach maximum speed. If 8 threads are fully loaded on a CPU with 16 threads available, the CPU usage is going to be 50% for that benchmark plus another 1% for various Windows background tasks. ThrottleStop reports this correctly. Windows takes 51% CPU usage and scales that up to 97% Utilization. That number does not tell you anything.

 

 

[zd1907]

3 hours ago, unclewebb said:

@zd1907 The CPU information that the Task Manager reports on the Processes tab should be ignored. Instead, look at the CPU information that is shown on the Details tab.

 

The Windows CPU Utilization data on the Processes tab is a meaningless number. The 9700K has a Base Frequency of 3.60 GHz.

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/186604/intel-core-i7-9700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

 

When your CPU is running at 4600 MHz, Windows scales the CPU Usage up. If actual CPU usage is 75%, Windows will report CPU Utilization as,

 

Actual CPU Usage = 75%

Utilization = 75% X (4600 MHz / 3600 MHz)

Utilization = 96% 

 

On Intel CPUs that use a high percentage of turbo boost, the CPU data on the Processes tab does not tell you anything. The Details tab shows CPU usage. 

 

Here is an example on a 10875H. These mobile CPUs have a low Base Frequency of 2.30 GHz so they use a high percentage of turbo boost to reach maximum speed. If 8 threads are fully loaded on a CPU with 16 threads available, the CPU usage is going to be 50% for that benchmark plus another 1% for various Windows background tasks. ThrottleStop reports this correctly. Windows takes 51% CPU usage and scales that up to 97% Utilization. That number does not tell you anything.

 

 

Okey thanks so much. So how about the cpu temp? Are those temp fine right?

[unclewebb]

7 minutes ago, zd1907 said:

cpu temp

Intel CPUs are designed to run reliably up to 100°C. That is why Intel has been setting the thermal throttling temperature to 100°C for the vast majority of Core i CPUs that they have produced in the last 12+ years. When a CPU gets too hot, it will thermal throttle to protect itself from any long term damage. Users worry too much about CPU temperatures when the CPU is quite capable of looking after itself. 

 

For best frame rates, use the Windows High Performance power plan so your CPU runs at a fast and consistent speed. If you cannot find this power plan in Power Options, open a command prompt and enter this command.

 

powercfg /s SCHEME_MIN

[zd1907]

24 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

Intel CPUs are designed to run reliably up to 100°C. That is why Intel has been setting the thermal throttling temperature to 100°C for the vast majority of Core i CPUs that they have produced in the last 12+ years. When a CPU gets too hot, it will thermal throttle to protect itself from any long term damage. Users worry too much about CPU temperatures when the CPU is quite capable of looking after itself. 

 

For best frame rates, use the Windows High Performance power plan so your CPU runs at a fast and consistent speed. If you cannot find this power plan in Power Options, open a command prompt and enter this command.

 

powercfg /s SCHEME_MIN

 u talking about this right? Balance/high performance / power saver / ultimate performance

[unclewebb]

@zd1907 The Windows High Performance power plan is good enough. Ultimate Performance is OK too but it will not make your CPU run any faster. Sounds cool though.

[zd1907]

1 hour ago, unclewebb said:

@zd1907 The Windows High Performance power plan is good enough. Ultimate Performance is OK too but it will not make your CPU run any faster. Sounds cool though.

Thank you very much for your help. You are the best

[SadWhiteWolf]

On 7/14/2021 at 4:58 PM, zd1907 said:

 

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Can you tell me your Full - PC Configuration ..

I'm struggling to achieve even 40+ FPS with my New built PC