First time building a computer, feedback appreciated!

[SamVV]

Budget (including currency): 

max around 1500€

Country: 

Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Normal gaming like Dota 2 or Tomb Raider games for about 4 years, just MS Windows use after that

 

So I am going to build my first ever computer as a big tech nerd, very excited for it. In the past all I ever did was upgrade a prebuild with a new power supply and graphics card. The system is designed to be able to game on it for 4 years at least until I move out and still work for a long time after that for my parents. With the current GPU prices I am going to keep that GPU, an AMD 380X, and the power supply, an EVGA 750W Supernova, and put it in the new computer. That's why there is nog GPU and PSU included in the pcpartpicker list. I have a 1440p widescreen monitor that can go with G-sync to 120Hz, that leads to my first question:

1. I was planning on upgrading in 2022 to a Nvidia 3060. That should be fine I believe for that resolution or do I need a 3070?

2. I went for Samsung and Seagate for their quality reputation and avoided WD for the SMR bullshit in the past. I chose the EVO plus over the EVO as it was only 10€ difference. Good calls?

3. I just saw that there is a possible problem between the motherboard and the case? There are apperently not enough front USB headers on the motherboard?
   Motherboard:

   Front USB Port ( Total 6 )

   2 x USB 3.2 Gen 2 port(s)(1 x Type-A +1 x USB Type-C®)

   Case:

   Front interface

   1x USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C, 2x USB 3.0, Audio I/O, Power button, Reset button

4. Did I miss anything obvious? Thanks for reading all this :) !

This is the parts list:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/34VPrr

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€295.95 @ Megekko) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€54.95 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€167.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€98.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€144.90 @ Tones.be) 
Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€138.85 @ Megekko) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact TG Light Tint ATX Mid Tower Case  (€108.95 @ Megekko) 
Custom: Firewire (€37.99)
Total: €1048.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-03 00:23 CEST+0200

[IkeaGnome]

Does the budget include the added GPU next year? If so, you've left quite a bit on the table.

[SamVV]

2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Does the budget include the added GPU next year? If so, you've left quite a bit on the table.

Yes it does. I should have clarified that. 

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, SamVV said:

Yes it does. I should have clarified that. 

In that case, list looks good. The SN550 1tb is 40 Euros cheaper than the 970.

12 minutes ago, SamVV said:

I was planning on upgrading in 2022 to a Nvidia 3060. That should be fine I believe for that resolution or do I need a 3070?

The 3070 will be the better pick here.

13 minutes ago, SamVV said:

I just saw that there is a possible problem between the motherboard and the case? There are apperently not enough front USB headers on the motherboard?

This can be alleviated by either going to a case with compatible USB plugs,

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6Crxr/fractal-design-meshify-c-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko-tg

Or a motherboard with enough of the correct internal plugs.

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/2f4BD3/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi

16 minutes ago, SamVV said:

Did I miss anything obvious? Thanks for reading all this !

I wouldn't write WD off for SMR issues. SMR is HDD, that won't have any effect on your M.2 and there's plenty of people around here using and recommending the SN550.

The only other semi obvious thing I can think of is PCIE power cables on your current PSU. I'd make sure you have enough for a 3070/ti. You'll want 2. A pigtail will work just fine, but in general 2 separate cables for 2 separate power connectors is better.

 

 

[SamVV]

Thanks for the in-depth reply!

I will go with the SN550 then and hope that the 3070 is at least at msrp by 2022.

The PSU has 4x 6+2-pins so that should be fine.

About the front I/O, I would like to keep the case. The motherboard you linked does indeed have 2x USB-A and 1 USB-C front header, but the USB-C on the msi motherboard is gen 1 while the case is gen 2. Will that cause a compatibility problem or just a slower speed?

[IkeaGnome]

13 minutes ago, SamVV said:

USB-C on the msi motherboard is gen 1 while the case is gen 2

USB-C is backwards compatible, but reverts to the lowest common denominator. So in this case  it would be gen 1 speed/power.

[SamVV]

8 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

USB-C is backwards compatible, but reverts to the lowest common denominator. So in this case  it would be gen 1 speed/power.

Great! I will go with the MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK then, as it is almost the same as your recommendation and I don't need WIFI and like the aesthetics a bit more as well :). 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Are you gonna overclock or no?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/2RhNCz

another mediocre pcpartpicker list by me .-.

 

Assuming abit of overclocking or atleast undervolting

 

11700k cause much cheaper than 5800x

 

Cheaper ssd and hdd

 

Cheaper ram

 

Cheaper case

 

Aka cut cost everywhere till a freaking 8 core config is cheaper than a 6 core config xD

 

Though you might wanna get a better case for asthetic reasons

 

You may also want to switch to amd or get a 10850k if you can even use it

 

If you dont wanna overclock but instead undervolt, get an arctic freezer 34 (non esport non duo), cheaper b560 board (dont get asrock cause supposedly they cant overclock well and on some of them cant even unlock power llimits),  keep the 11700k cause it has better silicon that non k cpu, and just undervolt via the bios

[SamVV]

3 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Are you gonna overclock or no?

Maybe lightly for a bit of free performance, but nothing that is pushing a limit. The RAM to 3733 for 1 to 1 to 1 with the infinity fabric and the cpu for a couple of percentages probably.

[SamVV]

2 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/2RhNCz

another mediocre pcpartpicker list by me .-.

 

Assuming abit of overclocking or atleast undervolting

 

11700k cause much cheaper than 5800x

 

Cheaper ssd and hdd

 

Cheaper ram

 

Cheaper case

 

Aka cut cost everywhere till a freaking 8 core config is cheaper than a 6 core config xD

 

Though you might wanna get a better case for asthetic reasons

 

You may also want to switch to amd or get a 10850k if you can even use it

 

If you dont wanna overclock but instead undervolt, get an arctic freezer 34 (non esport non duo), cheaper b560 board (dont get asrock cause supposedly they cant overclock well and on some of them cant even unlock power llimits),  keep the 11700k cause it has better silicon that non k cpu, and just undervolt via the bios

Is there a reason to go for 8 cores over 6 cores if you are just doing some standard gaming?

Your build is only 20€ cheaper than my updated build after the suggestions from IkeaGnome as I have to add a Firewire reader as well:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/R6nhHz

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€295.95 @ Megekko) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€54.95 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€158.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€98.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€108.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€138.85 @ Megekko) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact TG Light Tint ATX Mid Tower Case  (€108.95 @ Megekko) 
Custom: Firewire (€37.99)
Total: €1003.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-03 07:53 CEST+0200

[Somerandomtechyboi]

6 minutes ago, SamVV said:

Maybe lightly for a bit of free performance, but nothing that is pushing a limit. The RAM to 3733 for 1 to 1 to 1 with the infinity fabric and the cpu for a couple of percentages probably.

"The limit" for 14nm intel cpus is around 1.65v, not sure about the death zone voltage tho, maybe around 1.85v

[Somerandomtechyboi]

6 minutes ago, SamVV said:

Is there a reason to go for 8 cores over 6 cores if you are just doing some standard gaming?

Your build is only 20€ cheaper than my updated build after the suggestions from IkeaGnome as I have to add a Firewire reader as well:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/R6nhHz

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€295.95 @ Megekko) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€54.95 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€158.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€98.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€108.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€138.85 @ Megekko) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact TG Light Tint ATX Mid Tower Case  (€108.95 @ Megekko) 
Custom: Firewire (€37.99)
Total: €1003.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-03 07:53 CEST+0200

Unless you play heavily single threaded games or oc, 8 core will be superior to 6 core in gaming and productivity

 

Plus the 8 core i suggested is 55€ more than a 5600x 6core but then again if you dont really care about ocing the cpu or undervolting then the non ocable 11700 8 core is only 35€ more than your 5600x 6core not to mention that if you arent gonna be ocing you can get a cheaper cooler and cheaper motherboard which saves even more cost to the point that it might even be cheaper than your 6 core config

 

but then again an 8 core config thats cheaper than a 6 core config is bound to have caveats so maybe not that cheap but still better value esp if you dont care about cpu ocing

 

Though 1 massive caveat with intel rn is that you will be limited to at most 10 cores if you ever wanted to upgrade in the future but on amd you can go up to 16 cores, then again youll prob upgrade to am5 or something like that before the 8 core will be insufficient

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/XcWTy4

 

Yeeted overclocking

 

Chose a cheap but decent b560 board

 

Good enough cooler for maintaining cpu boost clocks

 

11700 non k

 

Saved 100€ just by yeeting overclocking, could save an extra 15€ on the board but atx form factor for futureproofing and better vrm heatsinks

 

If you want to do some undervolting then you might wanna get the k cpu, set it to 4.8ghz and 1.2v for efficiency

[SamVV]

2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/XcWTy4

 

Yeeted overclocking

 

Chose a cheap but decent b560 board

 

Good enough cooler for maintaining cpu boost clocks

 

11700 non k

 

Saved 100€ just by yeeting overclocking, could save an extra 15€ on the board but atx form factor for futureproofing and better vrm heatsinks

 

If you want to do some undervolting then you might wanna get the k cpu, set it to 4.8ghz and 1.2v for efficiency

Thanks for your suggestion! I will compare the two and see what fits my expectations the best