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I got a new rtx 3070 a few months ago and I got to say the performance increase I was looking for from my previous card (gtx 1660ti) isn't what was expected. The issue is that when I'm playing fortnite (I know lol) I still get lag and fps drops, I play on a 240 hz panel and as 3070 is supposed to be able to run 240hz on fortnite, but no matter how much I turn down or up the settings I can't maintain 240 fps. I've looked at gpu clocks and usage and determined while playing my gpu usage is 50% or less even when using maxed out textures and view distance. My question is, if I overclock the gpu will my gpu usage increase, and will I get less fps drops.

 

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CPU: Ryzen 3700x 

Gpu: RTX 3070

Ram: 16gb DDR4 ballistix 3200mhz

Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk 

PSU: Corsair RM750 80+ gold 

Storage: 2 500gb ssds

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I would expect the 3700X to be able to handle it, but generally, when you're not fully utilizing your GPU and still can't keep the frame rate up, that indicates a CPU bottleneck. What's the CPU utilization like? Also, what resolution and quality settings?

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1 minute ago, Chris Pratt said:

I would expect the 3700X to be able to handle it, but generally, when you're not fully utilizing your GPU and still can't keep the frame rate up, that indicates a CPU bottleneck. What's the CPU utilization like? Also, what resolution and quality settings?

Yeah I though this may the issue but cpu utilization even if I’m streaming is no more than 60 or 70%. I play 1080p dx 12 mode textures on epic and view distance on epic.

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1 minute ago, LilPach said:

Yeah I though this may the issue but cpu utilization even if I’m streaming is no more than 60 or 70%. I play 1080p dx 12 mode textures on epic and view distance on epic.

Yeah, you're CPU bottlenecking. The 3700X is an 8 core chip, and Fortnite is likely just not using all the cores. 60-70% utilization puts you right in the neighborhood of 6c/12t being used.

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3 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

Yeah, you're CPU bottlenecking. The 3700X is an 8 core chip, and Fortnite is likely just not using all the cores. 60-70% utilization puts you right in the neighborhood of 6c/12t being used.

So what can I do? Do I need a more powerful cpu?

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4 minutes ago, LilPach said:

So what can I do? Do I need a more powerful cpu?

Basically, if you're dead set on a consistent 240 FPS. You need higher clocks and IPC, not more cores/threads, though. You can try OCing your current CPU. You might be able to squeeze out enough extra performance that way, if you're right on the edge.

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16 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

Basically, if you're dead set on a consistent 240 FPS. You need higher clocks and IPC, not more cores/threads, though. You can try OCing your current CPU. You might be able to squeeze out enough extra performance that way, if you're right on the edge.

Got it. So over clocking my gpu won’t do anything for me, possibly even make the problem worse?

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Got it. So over clocking my gpu won’t do anything for me, possibly even make the problem worse?

It won't make it worse, but if you're only using 50%, giving it more performance is just that much more it's not using.

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What about CPU usage? Also check RAM if it's in dual channel 3200MHz

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Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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22 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

It won't make it worse, but if you're only using 50%, giving it more performance is just that much more it's not using.

Yeah but currently clock speeds on gpu don’t ever hit max while playing so if I oc will base clocks be higher therefore more performace?

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7 hours ago, LilPach said:

Yeah but currently clock speeds on gpu don’t ever hit max while playing so if I oc will base clocks be higher therefore more performace?

Yes, that's the whole point of OCing. However, you're not GPU limited, so adding more GPU performance doesn't do any thing. It's like suping up a race car and driving it in a residential zone. Yeah the car is faster... Still can't go over 30MPH.

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1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

Yes, that's the whole point of OCing. However, you're not GPU limited, so adding more GPU performance doesn't do any thing. It's like suping up a race car and driving it in a residential zone. Yeah the car is faster... Still can't go over 30MPH.

Ok thanks 

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