Crashing over 60FPS

Stalonage · May 8, 2021

So basically I've had to set the max FPS for all my games to 60. (Apex,CS:GO,the division, outriders, and even PC building sim,to name a few ) Only one game has given me an error and that would be Apex Legends which was a "hung error". It seemed to be happening after an Nvidia update so I used display driver uninstaller and rolled back to a previous but that didn't work fast forward ahead I did this four or five times all the way back to January and nothing. I was originally getting it while playing Apex and EA support told me to try a few things including default bios that didn't work I updated my BIOS that didn't work. I tried the games on different hard drives not reinstalled the games I even wiped my system and all the hard drives. I know this is pretty poorly written but I literally can't figure out why this is happening and I am so frustrated. I haven't added anything to my build at all I just don't know what to do.

Gtx1080 FTW2

9600k

16GB tridentz 3200mhz

Kisai · May 8, 2021

6 minutes ago, Stalonage said:

So basically I've had to set the max FPS for all my games to 60. (Apex,CS:GO,the division, outriders, and even PC building sim,to name a few ) Only one game has given me an error and that would be Apex Legends which was a "hung error". It seemed to be happening after an Nvidia update so I used display driver uninstaller and rolled back to a previous but that didn't work fast forward ahead I did this four or five times all the way back to January and nothing. I was originally getting it while playing Apex and EA support told me to try a few things including default bios that didn't work I updated my BIOS that didn't work. I tried the games on different hard drives not reinstalled the games I even wiped my system and all the hard drives. I know this is pretty poorly written but I literally can't figure out why this is happening and I am so frustrated. I haven't added anything to my build at all I just don't know what to do.

Gtx1080 FTW2

9600k

16GB tridentz 3200mhz

If it's just one game, I'd blame the game updating. If every game was doing it, it would be the display driver or hardware.

Reinstall the OS, install the chipset drivers, nvidia drivers, nothing else and try it. If it's still happening at that point, and you don't want to blame the game, then I'd say the GPU is the culprit, and just something the game is doing is tripping a hardware fault.

At any rate, whenever I see complaints like this, reagardless of the game, people are usually really quick to blame the game when the problem is almost certainly their hardware. But like I said, you need to actually look at what is happening. Like software that utilizes anti-cheat systems, will likely flip out if you run a game >60fps because depending where they put the timing loop, it might call the anti-cheat hook too fast and see it as a speed hack.

Now here's the other side of the question. If this is actually happening with all games, when vsync is off, it will run the gpu and cpu at the maximum rate the game was designed to run at (which in some cases can mean unlimited), if you have a gsync compatible monitor, it might be having a compatibility issue. The other possibility is that the GPU is just plain "defective"

Here's what I would also try:

- Reset the BIOS RAM timing for the MB. like turn XMP off, set CPU speed to defaults.

- Reseat the RAM

RAM failures can cause unidentified crashes.

Another possibility are CPU protection features that might just not be working.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/device-protection-in-windows-security-afa11526-de57-b1c5-599f-3a4c6a61c5e2

Like DEP is known to cause exactly the thing you describe if the game utilizes anti-cheat features. At one point in time, back with XP I had turned it on by default, and lots of games would just spontaneously break. However it's also not usually turned on for ALL processes.

Bring up the Event viewer and run the game, then look at what is exactly happening when the game spontaneously exits.

Stalonage · May 8, 2021

10 hours ago, Kisai said:

If it's just one game, I'd blame the game updating. If every game was doing it, it would be the display driver or hardware.

Reinstall the OS, install the chipset drivers, nvidia drivers, nothing else and try it. If it's still happening at that point, and you don't want to blame the game, then I'd say the GPU is the culprit, and just something the game is doing is tripping a hardware fault.

At any rate, whenever I see complaints like this, reagardless of the game, people are usually really quick to blame the game when the problem is almost certainly their hardware. But like I said, you need to actually look at what is happening. Like software that utilizes anti-cheat systems, will likely flip out if you run a game >60fps because depending where they put the timing loop, it might call the anti-cheat hook too fast and see it as a speed hack.

Now here's the other side of the question. If this is actually happening with all games, when vsync is off, it will run the gpu and cpu at the maximum rate the game was designed to run at (which in some cases can mean unlimited), if you have a gsync compatible monitor, it might be having a compatibility issue. The other possibility is that the GPU is just plain "defective"

Here's what I would also try:

- Reset the BIOS RAM timing for the MB. like turn XMP off, set CPU speed to defaults.

- Reseat the RAM

RAM failures can cause unidentified crashes.

Another possibility are CPU protection features that might just not be working.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/device-protection-in-windows-security-afa11526-de57-b1c5-599f-3a4c6a61c5e2

Like DEP is known to cause exactly the thing you describe if the game utilizes anti-cheat features. At one point in time, back with XP I had turned it on by default, and lots of games would just spontaneously break. However it's also not usually turned on for ALL processes.

Bring up the Event viewer and run the game, then look at what is exactly happening when the game spontaneously exits.