need help deciding CPU

[SnowyLynx-_-]

1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Yes for sure. I am at least 1.75 hours away from the closest one. But has been worth the drive on a couple of occasions!

lol im no where near any microcenter i live in ireland so the closest to a microcenter would be currys pc world but with shit prices

[TudorFinalBosz]

I'm in a similar bind as OP. So maybe I should post here rather than start a new thread.

 

I'm trying to build a new system and try to keep the costs of CPU+mobo under 500 bucks, even better if I can keep these costs at about 400 so I can have enough for a better case and PSU. The system would be mostly used for productivity but with some occasional gaming. I'm not playing AAA titles, though, so I don't care much about having the most beastly PC for gaming. I already have a GTX 1650 which is good enough for some gaming.

 

Initially I decidedto go with a 11500 and a cheaper AS Rock 590 mobo. But now I'm thinking socket 1200 is a dead end, this is it, it won't go any further than this 11th Intel generation. So there's no real potential for future upgradeability if I go this route. I would just have to make sure I don't skimp on the other parts (case, PSU, storage), so that if, at some point in the future, I decide to upgrade the system, at least I'll be able to recover some components.

 

And this is what made me wonder if I shouldn't give AMD a thought again. The problem is the good AMD CPUs are overpriced right now due to shortage and high demand. 5600X costs 360 bucks at my local reseller, while 11400 costs 224 bucks, 11500 costs 250 bucks, 11600K costs 325 bucks. But AM4 mobos can be had even for under 150 bucks here, which is way below 590-based Intel mobos.

Even the 3700X looks like an interesting choice: in some benchmarks it does better than the 5600X, it's cheaper and it has 2 cores more. But the 5600X is a much more recent edition.

 

So I'm not sure if going that extra mile and getting a 5600X is really worth it compared to just getting a cheaper i5 from the 11th generation and some cheaper mobo.

Is there any other advantage to going with a 5600X, like could I run it with the stock cooler and not need to get some better cooler like with an i5?

Is going with an AM4 mobo a much better bet on futureproofing and upgradeability a few years in the future?

 

 

[DanielNS84]

12 hours ago, TudorF said:

I'm in a similar bind as OP. So maybe I should post here rather than start a new thread.

 

I'm trying to build a new system and try to keep the costs of CPU+mobo under 500 bucks, even better if I can keep these costs at about 400 so I can have enough for a better case and PSU. The system would be mostly used for productivity but with some occasional gaming. I'm not playing AAA titles, though, so I don't care much about having the most beastly PC for gaming. I already have a GTX 1650 which is good enough for some gaming.

 

Initially I decidedto go with a 11500 and a cheaper AS Rock 590 mobo. But now I'm thinking socket 1200 is a dead end, this is it, it won't go any further than this 11th Intel generation. So there's no real potential for future upgradeability if I go this route. I would just have to make sure I don't skimp on the other parts (case, PSU, storage), so that if, at some point in the future, I decide to upgrade the system, at least I'll be able to recover some components.

 

And this is what made me wonder if I shouldn't give AMD a thought again. The problem is the good AMD CPUs are overpriced right now due to shortage and high demand. 5600X costs 360 bucks at my local reseller, while 11400 costs 224 bucks, 11500 costs 250 bucks, 11600K costs 325 bucks. But AM4 mobos can be had even for under 150 bucks here, which is way below 590-based Intel mobos.

Even the 3700X looks like an interesting choice: in some benchmarks it does better than the 5600X, it's cheaper and it has 2 cores more. But the 5600X is a much more recent edition.

 

So I'm not sure if going that extra mile and getting a 5600X is really worth it compared to just getting a cheaper i5 from the 11th generation and some cheaper mobo.

Is there any other advantage to going with a 5600X, like could I run it with the stock cooler and not need to get some better cooler like with an i5?

Is going with an AM4 mobo a much better bet on futureproofing and upgradeability a few years in the future?

 

 

Depends on what you do! For gaming the 5600x is DEFINITELY worth it...for productivity the 3700x is just fine and it can do some gaming as well. Remember that if you don't need anything crazy that you can go with a B550 board (If you're okay with only the GPU slot and primary M.2 being PCIE 4.0 then there's few reasons to go with an x570) and upgrade to as high as a 5950x which will definitely be good for at least a few generations. You can go used (locally you can generally find used parts pretty cheap) and save even more money. There are retailers that sell 5600x's at MSRP like Micro Center (If you don't have one nearby you can find one online using NowInStock, I find stuff using their Telegram channel notifications where you can get early info when things come into stock at B&H, Best Buy, Amazon, Etc...there's a slight delay with text and e-mail though so Discord and Telegram are the best bet) and you should remember that a 5600x also comes with a good cooler so that saves money too (just saw you mentioned that, good call lol). You can find B550's on Newegg Business or Newegg for under $100 that seem okay (Like this/this or this/this) or if you want a board with more features like Wi-Fi/Bluetooth they're still cheap (Like this/this for $125) and you have plenty of expandability later on. Intel's socket 1200 is all done for sure but within the next generation it will be socket AM5 time to give us DDR5 and PCIE 5.0 so you may be stuck regardless. You will have more headroom regardless since you can get HEDT level performance out of the AMD chips on the high-end but it's unlikely you'll be moving generations with this board no matter what since both companies are going to be making big changes soon. In any case, hope you find what you need!

[Thenerdpcbuilder]

19 hours ago, SnowyLynx-_- said:

Hi.i have been planning on building my pc for a while now my budget is 1k at most and i have decided on getting a ryzen 7 3700x becuase that way i dont have to pay extra for a mobo and a cooler if i went with a i5 10600k, but yet i cant fully decide on what to get the 3700x is about 300 and the 10600k is 230 but then i have to pay extra for a cooler about 50 then another extra 50 for a z490 my currency is Euro

Hi,i am not a real pro but if you don't go with a ryzen 4th gen,you should pick a intel core I 10th gen instead.

[SnowyLynx-_-]

3 hours ago, Thenerdpcbuilder said:

Hi,i am not a real pro but if you don't go with a ryzen 4th gen,you should pick a intel core I 10th gen instead.

there isnt such thing as 4th gen cpus for desktops but for laptops yes

[DanielNS84]

1 hour ago, SnowyLynx-_- said:

there isnt such thing as 4th gen cpus for desktops but for laptops yes

I think technically they named the 4th desktop generation the 5000 series to avoid confusion with the 3rd gen laptop CPU's called the 4000 series (as they'd already used 3000 for 2nd gen laptop CPU's lol). In any case...pretty sure they mean the 5000 series.

[SnowyLynx-_-]

1 hour ago, DanielNS84 said:

I think technically they named the 4th desktop generation the 5000 series to avoid confusion with the 3rd gen laptop CPU's called the 4000 series (as they'd already used 3000 for 2nd gen laptop CPU's lol). In any case...pretty sure they mean the 5000 series.

ya that makes a lot more sense now