Mini ITX PC advise

[finki70]

Budget (including currency): ~800€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Most of the time LoL, Minecraft, programming and Adobe CC

Other details: Atm I have a dual monitor setup with a ThinkPad T420, that can barely handle it. I got a laptop 2 years ago, but it has only one output. My monitors are Samsung 27" 60hz. I searched the pieces myself: (German website for hardware listing)

https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-2068708

I like the size of the case, but I'm not sure if I want the i-version of it.... I searched for an iGPU because GPUs are too expensive, as we see in the latest vid. The motherboard should fit to it :). I plan on getting a 3070 when the price is back to normal, then also upgrading the CPU.

 

Edit: I also think the RAM is kind of ugly....

 

What do you think & what would you change?

 

Greetings,

Andreas

Edited April 21, 2021 by finki70

[King of Memes]

Just now, finki70 said:

Budget (including currency): ~800€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Most of the time LoL, Minecraft, programming and Adobe CC

Other details: Atm I have a dual monitor setup with a ThinkPad T420, that can barely handle it. I got a laptop 2 years ago, but it has only one output. My monitors are Samsung 27" 60hz. I searched the pieces myself: (German website for hardware listing)

https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-2068708

I like the size of the case, but I'm not sure if I want the i-version of it.... I searched for an iGPU because GPUs are too expensive, as we see in the latest vid. The motherboard should fit to it :). I plan on getting a 3070 when the price is back to normal, then also upgrading the CPU.

 

What do you think & what would you change?

 

Greetings,

Andreas

probably the best mini itx case is the Meshlicous, but it is expensive for a $800 build, but it might be worth it because it has better airflow than other mini itx cases

[IkeaGnome]

If that case is anything like it's bigger brothers, airflow will be poor. I haven't looked into reviews on that specific case though. The CoolerMaster 200 (or 200P if you want a glass side panel) would be a great alternative.

https://geizhals.de/cooler-master-masterbox-nr200p-v31623.html

 

[Jurrunio]

Eh, I'll change most of it

 

SSD is fine

 

CPU is fine, I get the 4750G could be expensive

 

Prefer 3600MHz RAM, not deal breaker tho

 

That board gives me mixed feelings. Its VRM is weak which means it will run hotter than other boards, but you're running the iGPU which is powered by the SOC VRM (a smaller portion next to the main VRM) and this is the only cheap board (i.e. below 150 EUR) that tries to cool them. Would try get a B550 board instead

 

LL120 performance is tragic

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-ll120-rgb/5.html

It's only good to look at.

 

Cooler: 40 EUR for a Prism is 1. too much and 2. not needing a downdraft is one of the selling points of buying a deep mITX case like the NZXT H210, compared to say the Silverstone RVZ03.

 

H210 case is a mITX case made by removing PCIe brackets. Case of this type are prone to choking the graphics card by having it too close to the PSU shroud and PSU itself. Solution is to get a smaller SFX unit, or not get such case at all.

 

PSU: mITX cases dont always have ATX PSU support and those that do are often troublesome to use or build in because of the larger PSU taking up precious space, prefer SFX.

[GravityHurts]

For the case I'd say go with the NR200 from Coolermaster

[finki70]

8 hours ago, King of Memes said:

probably the best mini itx case is the Meshlicous, but it is expensive for a $800 build, but it might be worth it because it has better airflow than other mini itx cases

yes, I think it could be too expensive & I can't really get it from germany :(

 

 

[finki70]

8 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

If that case is anything like it's bigger brothers, airflow will be poor. I haven't looked into reviews on that specific case though. The CoolerMaster 200 (or 200P if you want a glass side panel) would be a great alternative.

https://geizhals.de/cooler-master-masterbox-nr200p-v31623.html

 

I saw some builds/reviews and they say that the airflow is okay with a smaller power supply.

8 hours ago, GravityHurts said:

For the case I'd say go with the NR200 from Coolermaster

Yes, that case also looks good, I'll put it on my list :)
 

8 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Eh, I'll change most of it

 

SSD is fine

 

CPU is fine, I get the 4750G could be expensive

 

Prefer 3600MHz RAM, not deal breaker tho

 

That board gives me mixed feelings. Its VRM is weak which means it will run hotter than other boards, but you're running the iGPU which is powered by the SOC VRM (a smaller portion next to the main VRM) and this is the only cheap board (i.e. below 150 EUR) that tries to cool them. Would try get a B550 board instead

 

LL120 performance is tragic

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-ll120-rgb/5.html

It's only good to look at.

 

Cooler: 40 EUR for a Prism is 1. too much and 2. not needing a downdraft is one of the selling points of buying a deep mITX case like the NZXT H210, compared to say the Silverstone RVZ03.

 

H210 case is a mITX case made by removing PCIe brackets. Case of this type are prone to choking the graphics card by having it too close to the PSU shroud and PSU itself. Solution is to get a smaller SFX unit, or not get such case at all.

 

PSU: mITX cases dont always have ATX PSU support and those that do are often troublesome to use or build in because of the larger PSU taking up precious space, prefer SFX.

Thanks for your long answer :)

I now selected this RAM:
https://geizhals.de/crucial-ballistix-weiss-dimm-kit-16gb-bl2k8g36c16u4w-a2222518.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

For the MB you mean something like this? 
https://geizhals.de/asrock-b550m-itx-ac-a2299233.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

I picked the LL120s because of their white design, do you have a alternative?

I kindof don't like CPU coolers with the fans on the sides, so I chose this (also because of the lighting), would it make such an difference?

I think I like the case and saw some tutorials saying with 5 fans should it be okay, or I switch to the NR200.


PSUs with SFX are 20-50€ more expensive, is it worth it?

P.S.: oh sorry, I didnt't notice the multiquote at first