PcPartPicker not cataloguing certain things

[Kaboom1]

I used to think "if it is reasonably recent hardware, PPP will have it listed"
Then i tried finding an epyc CPU on the website because i wanted to look at the numbers of cores it has
They do not have any epycs catalogued for some reason
Does anyone know why?

[Oshino Shinobu]

EPYC isn't an off the shelf product line, you have to go through a representative/SI etc. to buy it. 

 

PCPP can't really list something when it isn't for sale through consumer channels. It's ultimately a site for building PCs, not cataloguing all components. You'll notice you don't see Intel's current Xeon lineup either, for the same reason that you can't buy it off the shelf. 

[Kaboom1]

oh ok thanks for that
i was confused because i did see some xeons
but i guess those were older ones

[aisle9]

14 minutes ago, Kaboom1 said:

I used to think "if it is reasonably recent hardware, PPP will have it listed"
Then i tried finding an epyc CPU on the website because i wanted to look at the numbers of cores it has
They do not have any epycs catalogued for some reason
Does anyone know why?

Two things going on here:

1. Epyc isn't really a mainstream line. It's not even close, actually. It's got a very specific purpose in mind, and isn't something the typical PC builder would (or even should) be buying

2. In conversation with a PCPP rep on here a while back, they don't archive parts due to lack of popularity. They don't include them in searches if there are bizarre requirements or hardware incompatibilities going on. If you Google "Epyc PCPartPicker", you'll get results. They're just not included when you search on PCPP.

[Oshino Shinobu]

11 minutes ago, Kaboom1 said:

oh ok thanks for that
i was confused because i did see some xeons
but i guess those were older ones

Intel used to sell their Xeon processors through consumer streams as well as via reps/SIs. I have an older Xeon in my own server from the era they used to do that, as well as having RDIMM ECC working in one of their prosumer platform chipsets from the days Intel had a shred of integrity left.

 

A while ago they separated a load of server/workstation features such as ECC support from the consumer chipsets and processors and moved them almost exclusively to the Xeon processors and C/server series chipsets and shortly after stopped offering them through normal channels, likely because it's primarily something businesses will be buying and they know they can charge more for it. 

 

AMD's EPYC platform has a very specific use case and really isn't something a consumer would be buying. It's datacenter and MSP level stuff. They've left open Threadripper for prosumers who need silly amounts of cores and haven't disabled ECC or similar support from any of their platforms, though they haven't validated it either but at least they haven't gone down the greedy money grab route that Intel did. 

[Kaboom1]

1 minute ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Intel used to sell their Xeon processors through consumer streams as well as via reps/SIs. I have an older Xeon in my own server from the era they used to do that, as well as having RDIMM ECC working in one of their prosumer platform chipsets from the days Intel had a shred of integrity left.

 

A while ago they separated a load of server/workstation features such as ECC support from the consumer chipsets and processors and moved them almost exclusively to the Xeon processors and C/server series chipsets and shortly after stopped offering them through normal channels, likely because it's primarily something businesses will be buying and they know they can charge more for it. 

That is one thing i do like about AMD
They usually don't restrict the hardware they give you artificially
Here is what i can come up with that goes in that category:

• Every chip is overclockable
• ECC while not officially supported is available on their platforms
• The graphics drivers on linux are open-source which is something linux users tend to care about

[LogicalDrm]

There are other ways, and imo better ways, for finding product details than PCPP. Like Ark for all Intel CPUs. Or Passmark for general details on several hardware pieces.