Deciding a upgrade

[cassell6969]

so current specs are (CHECK IMAGE)

 

i was wondering of some suggestions im thinking a Ryzen cpu and keep gpu (cause prices rn) but with stimulus this seems like a good time to upgrade so hit me with some suggestions or builds i am a dev core count is nice to have as i like to run vms a bit but anything helps budget is like $1,000 USD its fine for a little over some setup ideas would be nice

 

[dean_5234]

25 minutes ago, cassell6969 said:

so current specs are (CHECK IMAGE)

 

i was wondering of some suggestions im thinking a Ryzen cpu and keep gpu (cause prices rn) but with stimulus this seems like a good time to upgrade so hit me with some suggestions or builds i am a dev core count is nice to have as i like to run vms a bit but anything helps budget is like $1,000 USD its fine for a little over some setup ideas would be nice

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-11600K 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$264.99 @ Adorama
CPU Cooler	Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$129.99 @ Corsair
Motherboard	MSI Z590-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$179.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory	$94.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 665p 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$103.99 @ Adorama
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA G1+ 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$963.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$953.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-10 01:54 EDT-0400

Didn't specify much info, so I just put together a list lol

[Bombastinator]

Ryzen has good options and not-so-good options.  Apparently anything ryzen+ or earlier fall into the not-so-good category. Ryzen2 was still generally slower than intel, but priced better which made up for things.  Whether that is still true or not I do not know. Price/performance is hard one lately due to wildly jumping prices and availability.  Apparently the 5900 and 5950 are great CPUs if they can be gotten.  The problem is apparently actually getting one.

Edited April 10, 2021 by Bombastinator

[cassell6969]

11 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Ryzen has good options and not-so-good options.  Apparently anything ryzen+ or earlier fall into the not-so-good category. Ryzen2 was still generally slower than intel, but priced better which made up for things.  Whether that is still true or not I do not know. Price/performance is hard one lately due to wildly jumping prices and availability.  Apparently the 5900 and 5950 are great CPUs if they can be gotten.  The problem is apparently actually getting one.

yea i feel finding parts are going to be the main issue i should wait but this could be a while before things get back to normal

[cassell6969]

33 minutes ago, davemc said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-11600K 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$264.99 @ Adorama
CPU Cooler	Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$129.99 @ Corsair
Motherboard	MSI Z590-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$179.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory	$94.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 665p 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$103.99 @ Adorama
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA G1+ 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$963.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$953.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-10 01:54 EDT-0400

Didn't specify much info, so I just put together a list lol

i was hoping some kinda ryzen 6-8 core i already have a gpu from my old build no need to add that

[dean_5234]

6 minutes ago, cassell6969 said:

i was hoping some kinda ryzen 6-8 core i already have a gpu from my old build no need to add that

It was added as a 0. You could always stretch the budget to a 3700x, but the 3600 isn't worth it right now as the 11400 and 11600K are much better performers

[Bombastinator]

48 minutes ago, cassell6969 said:

yea i feel finding parts are going to be the main issue i should wait but this could be a while before things get back to normal

Could be an “if” as well.  The future is even more hazy than it often is.

[Bombastinator]

33 minutes ago, cassell6969 said:

i was hoping some kinda ryzen 6-8 core i already have a gpu from my old build no need to add that

That means 3600 or 5600 at minimum.  The ryzen plus stuff is suffering from inflation due to the quality of ryzen3.  It must be remembered that early ryzen was NOT AS GOOD AS competing intel at the time.  I personally wouldn’t pay much more than a Benjamin for a 2600 and they’ve never gotten down that far. 

[cassell6969]

18 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

That means 3600 or 5600 at minimum.  The ryzen plus stuff is suffering from inflation due to the quality of ryzen3.  It must be remembered that early ryzen was NOT AS GOOD AS competing intel at the time.  I personally wouldn’t pay much more than a Benjamin for a 2600 and they’ve never gotten down that far. 

what are your thoughts on like a 3600x? i really just wanna go amd as i have high hopes for them and with a am4 board i should be future proofing myself for when more ryzen is released

[cassell6969]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($324.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $672.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-10 21:54 EDT-0400

 

This is what i came up with any thought or recommendations

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, cassell6969 said:

what are your thoughts on like a 3600x? i really just wanna go amd as i have high hopes for them and with a am4 board i should be future proofing myself for when more ryzen is released

My thoughts on the 3600 are different than many here.  I think that while 6/12 is much more long lived than 4/8, the ps5/XboxX use 8/16, albeit a somewhat slow 8/16. While a 3600 can approximately match the speed of the new consoles I am not 100% sure that the 6/12ness of a 3600 will not come back to bite it.  I personally would be more comfortable with a 3700 for longer term gaming.  There are those that disagree.  I think it more likely that a 5600 might do it because while it is also 6/12 it is a good bit faster.  Some people went for the 2600.  It’s still a better chip to have than a 4/8 chip, and faster 4/8 chips still game.  The new games for the new consoles aren’t out yet though.  4/8 has already outlived my expectations though. 

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, cassell6969 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($324.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $672.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-10 21:54 EDT-0400

 

This is what i came up with any thought or recommendations

A 1070 is a 3 year old card.  That it is even being looked at says a lot about the state of GPUs atm.

Edited April 11, 2021 by Bombastinator

[curiousmind34]

4 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

A 1070 is a 3 year old card.  That it is even being looked at says a lot about the state of GPUs atm.

Time flies.. it’s actually been 5 years since 10 series came out

[Bombastinator]

4 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

Time flies.. it’s actually been 5 years since 10 series came out

Fair enough.  I was thinking of the release of the 20xx series being the end of the 10xx series. Your point is well taken though.

[cassell6969]

2 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

A 1070 is a 3 year old card.  That it is even being looked at says a lot about the state of GPUs atm.

yes thats true but i had a 950 for a while and just recently was given the 1070 and i have yet to see its full potential with my 8320e bottlenecking it but yea 1070 is fine i dont have money to spend 1K on a new card lol 

[cassell6969]

and tbh i dont game too much on crazy tripple A titles i like overwatch and stuff the cpu would be more for workstation use for like having my linux vm running for my cyber security stuff and other things

[Bombastinator]

48 minutes ago, cassell6969 said:

yes thats true but i had a 950 for a while and just recently was given the 1070 and i have yet to see its full potential with my 8320e bottlenecking it but yea 1070 is fine i dont have money to spend 1K on a new card lol 

Nor do I. I’ll be living on my rx580 till prices come down again.  A 1070 should crush 1080p anyway.  No need for more unless you get a bigger monitor

Edited April 11, 2021 by Bombastinator

[cassell6969]

14 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

Nor do I. I’ll be living on my rx580 till prices come down again.  A 1070 should crush 1080p anyway.  No need for more unless you get a bigger monitor

nah just my 1680x1050 lol and my 1080p tv kek i really need to upgrade my entire setup lol