Max safe cache voltage

[babycomingsh]

when I was learning of Gigabyte's offset mode(adaptive mode vcore) voltage, that run FPU will automaticly add some voltage by itself . I was stare at the screen and that voltage suddenly increased to 1.486v and tempereture was increased to 100c. i immediately press "stop" FPU right away. and also then The temperature dropped immediately, and voltage dropped to 0.8v, i dont know will it damaged the CPU or not???? 10900k

 

The voltage fluctuated fast at that time. when i found that 1.486v  i immediately stop the FPU.

 

i just want to ask:1.486v in short time  I immediately close the FPU  back to 0.8v .    this short time 1.486v will it damage the CPU? or damege how many HP in my 10900k???? i was so worry about it.....
(MY CPU FAN is D15) suck.......

 

[Jurrunio]

It's okay, CPUs are durable things and outlast.motherboards often.

 

But are you reading VID? VID is not the voltage received by.the CPU.

[Mister Woof]

It's probably fine. I booted into windows with gigabyte's "MCE" on and it gave me 1.56v on the VR VOUT. Although that was idle, not load as I rebooted and fixed it immediately.

 

Could be nothing or took a few days off its lifespan. Who knows.

[babycomingsh]

21 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's okay, CPUs are durable things and outlast.motherboards often.

 

But are you reading VID? VID is not the voltage received by.the CPU.

nope    not vid  its cpuz 's voltage

[babycomingsh]

33 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

It's probably fine. I booted into windows with gigabyte's "MCE" on and it gave me 1.56v on the VR VOUT. Although that was idle, not load as I rebooted and fixed it immediately.

 

Could be nothing or took a few days off its lifespan. Who knows.

r u 10900k bro???? and what is VR VOUT and MCE???is it Multi Core Enhancement???? as to voltage, i was talk about the cpu core voltage bro  are you 1.56v in your core voltage????

[Mister Woof]

36 minutes ago, babycomingsh said:

r u 10900k bro???? and what is VR VOUT and MCE???is it Multi Core Enhancement???? as to voltage, i was talk about the cpu core voltage bro  are you 1.56v in your core voltage????

10900FK, VR VOUT went to 1.56v with MCE on my gigabyte board. I turned it off and did my own manual OC after that.

 

Right now I'm at 1.37v, unlimited power, modified turbo table (5.3ghz up to 5 cores active, 5.2gz up to 8, and 5.1ghz up to 10), with "high" LLC. I see 5.3ghz in single core benchmarks, and 5.1-5.2ghz in games. Usually 5.1ghz.

 

Actual voltage during all-core stress is around 1.28v VR VOUT or so.

 

I was using a Deepcool Assassin 3, which is about on par with the D15. I found that with any type of overclocking, big air coolers just can't cut it on the 10900k. I am now using a 360mm AIO.

 

Maybe after about an hour or so of full-power AVX use, the thermals aren't too much better than the D15 - but short intense bursts (i.e. real world workloads >15 minutes) the 360 makes a huge difference. Like 10-15c difference.

 

[babycomingsh]

16 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

10900FK, VR VOUT went to 1.56v with MCE on my gigabyte board. I turned it off and did my own manual OC after that.

 

Right now I'm at 1.37v, unlimited power, modified turbo table (5.3ghz up to 5 cores active, 5.2gz up to 8, and 5.1ghz up to 10), with "high" LLC. I see 5.3ghz in single core benchmarks, and 5.1-5.2ghz in games. Usually 5.1ghz.

 

Actual voltage during all-core stress is around 1.28v VR VOUT or so.

 

I was using a Deepcool Assassin 3, which is about on par with the D15. I found that with any type of overclocking, big air coolers just can't cut it on the 10900k. I am now using a 360mm AIO.

 

Maybe after about an hour or so of full-power AVX use, the thermals aren't too much better than the D15 - but short intense bursts (i.e. real world workloads >15 minutes) the 360 makes a huge difference. Like 10-15c difference.

 

What's your maximum core voltage your 10900kf have ever been throught bro????? i want to know.   not VR VOUT voltage  is core voltage I meanet

(im really not sure and dont know what is the VR VOUT means)

[Mister Woof]

15 minutes ago, babycomingsh said:

What's your maximum core voltage your 10900kf have ever been throught bro????? i want to know.   not VR VOUT voltage  is core voltage I meanet

(im really not sure and dont know what is the VR VOUT means)

VR VOUT sensor (if you have it) is the more accurate measure of core voltage.

 

 

Highest I've ever read is 1.56v after I attempted gigabyte's MCE. I didn't like that voltage so I rebooted and then just manually overclocked.

 

It actually was still over volted at stock settings and I get better temperatures while overclocked.

 

 

 

[babycomingsh]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

VR VOUT sensor (if you have it) is the more accurate measure of core voltage.

 

 

Highest I've ever read is 1.56v after I attempted gigabyte's MCE. I didn't like that voltage so I rebooted and then just manually overclocked.

 

It actually was still over volted at stock settings and I get better temperatures while overclocked.

 

 

yes    1.56v is insane

 

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, babycomingsh said:

 

It did try to get 5.3ghz all core, so that's probably why they aimed so high with voltage.

[babycomingsh]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

It did try to get 5.3ghz all core, so that's probably why they aimed so high with voltage.

yes ~  stupid motherboard  always give so much high voltage at CPU  automaticly by itself  always

[Mister Woof]

Just now, babycomingsh said:

yes ~  stupid motherboard  always give so much high voltage at CPU  automaticly by itself  always

These chips perform well when you manually tweak them.

 

But to answer your question is probably okay.

[babycomingsh]

On 3/31/2021 at 12:29 PM, Mister Woof said:

These chips perform well when you manually tweak them.

 

But to answer your question is probably okay.

OK     GOT IT

[babycomingsh]

is it cache voltage set to 1.26v is dangerous voltage ???

I download the  XTU. At first, as soon as I went in, I directly adjusted the cache voltage to 1.26v.（the cache voltage is mistakenly regarded as the core voltage） Then the cache ratio is set to x50.(I mistook cache ratio for core ratio） Then click OK to apply. Then, after running FPU for a while, the computer itself turned off. Is this cache voltage high or low?

I put the CPU cache voltage to 1.26v, almost cry, will it be too high???

Then i set  cache voltage offsets of -0.100v and -0.105v,  are these high cache voltage or low cache voltage for the cache??

Generally in fact, the cache voltage does not need to be changed in overclocking .its my mistake

I really hope to get your answer. CPU is 10900k

1.26v cache voltage will it damaged or cause anyting harm for this CPU??? such like this CPU cache voltage~1.26v

[Bombastinator]

Whenever a computer turns itself off the first two suspects are temperatures and PSU issues.  Those would want to be ruled out first. 

[babycomingsh]

5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Whenever a computer turns itself off the first two suspects are temperatures and PSU issues.  Those would want to be ruled out first. 

it turn off was so quickly,i was forget about the temp.   i just wonder    is it 1.26V cache voltage is high cache voltage?   my cooler is D15S

 

and now  i was uninstall the XTU   . use BIOS to overclock   .  its stable  and run FPU for about 15minutes without any issues

[babycomingsh]

What would y'all suggest for a max safe cache voltage 24/7 use 10900k Gigabyte z490 pro ax. 

[Bombastinator]

33 minutes ago, babycomingsh said:

it turn off was so quickly,i was forget about the temp.   i just wonder    is it 1.26V cache voltage is high cache voltage?   my cooler is D15S

 

and now  i was uninstall the XTU   . use BIOS to overclock   .  its stable  and run FPU for about 15minutes without any issues

Could still be recorded somewhere.  Computer can record faster than you can see.  If it’s that quick it would require a massive heat ramp though on the order of a no paste mount or something.  There is an argument for “it works” though.  If you’re getting function via one method the why of the other method not working could be considered immaterial for your purpose.

Edited April 9, 2021 by Bombastinator

[babycomingsh]

13 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Could still be recorded somewhere.  Computer can record faster than you can see.  If it’s that quick it would require a massive heat ramp though on the order of a no paste mount or something.  There is an argument for “it works” though.  If you’re getting function via one method the why of the other method not working could be considered immaterial for your purpose.

yeah   i see ....  the FPU said  the previous stress test session terminated uxexpectedly  :last time the maximum measured temp was  96c

[Bombastinator]

8 minutes ago, babycomingsh said:

yeah   i see ....  the FPU said  the previous stress test session terminated uxexpectedly  :last time the maximum measured temp was  96c

95c is hot.  throttle temp for a lot of things, above throttle for some older stuff and at least very near throttle temp for a lot of other stuff.  This very well could be a heat issue with that temp.  It’s also hotter than a cpu should be seeing on a big air cooler like you have.  Implies something is up.

Edited April 9, 2021 by Bombastinator

[babycomingsh]

17 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

95c is hot.  throttle temp for a lot of things, above throttle for some older stuff and at least very near throttle temp for a lot of other stuff.  This very well could be a heat issue with that temp.  It’s also hotter than a cpu should be seeing on a big air cooler like you have.  Implies something is up.

nope  i think its not the temp cause, i ever increase to 100c and run FPU with no issues  , i think might be that cache ratio and cache voltage's wrong. , i think i set cache ration to high   but cache voltage too low. i dont know   so i ask in here

[Bombastinator]

12 minutes ago, babycomingsh said:

nope  i think its not the temp cause, i ever increase to 100c and run FPU with no issues  , i think might be that cache ratio and cache voltage's wrong. , i think i set cache ration to high   but cache voltage too low. i dont know   so i ask in here

Might not be.  There could still be something else up though with those kinds of temps on big air.  

[Guest]

Not to take away from your other thread which is a mess, I'll post here instead. 

 

The cache runs off the cpu v-core.

If you increase the cache frequency, then you need to increase the cpu v-core to keep it stable.

 

This will increase cpu temps.

Vccio up to 1.2v and System Agent up to 1.2v.

Obviously try starting at 1.1 to 1.150v for either first, depending on the memory overclock.

[babycomingsh]

12 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Not to take away from your other thread which is a mess, I'll post here instead. 

 

The cache runs off the cpu v-core.

If you increase the cache frequency, then you need to increase the cpu v-core to keep it stable.

 

This will increase cpu temps.

Vccio up to 1.2v and System Agent up to 1.2v.

Obviously try starting at 1.1 to 1.150v for either first, depending on the memory overclock.

OK my bad.......

but i still want to ask that:

is it cache voltage set to 1.26v is dangerous voltage ???

I download the  XTU. At first, as soon as I went in, I directly adjusted the cache voltage to 1.26v.（the cache voltage is mistakenly regarded as the core voltage） Then the cache ratio is set to x50.(I mistook cache ratio for core ratio） Then click OK to apply. Then, after running FPU for a while, the computer itself turned off. Is this cache voltage high or low?

I put the CPU cache voltage to 1.26v, almost cry, will it be too high???

Then i set  cache voltage offsets of -0.100v and -0.105v,  are these high cache voltage or low cache voltage for the cache??

 

Generally in fact, the cache voltage does not need to be changed in overclocking .its my mistake

I really hope to get your answer. CPU is 10900k

 

1.26v cache voltage will it damaged or cause anyting harm for this CPU??? such like this CPU cache voltage~1.26v

[babycomingsh]

does anyonelse knows about this ???????