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Hi.

 

I'm looking for insight as to why my computer is slower than suspected, even after fresh install of windows 10.

 

My main complaint is the boot-time, which is about 50 seconds at the moment.

 

The computer is from 2015, and have been used to simple gaming such as CS:GO, but mainly as a workstation for studies.

 

My computer consists of the following:

- Motherboard: Asus z170 deluxe

- CPU: Intel I7 6700k

- CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15s

- PSU: Corsair RM850x

- Storage: Corsair Force MP600 1tb installed to on-board M.2 slot (not with the pcie expansion card that also comes with the motherboard).

- GPU: Radeon HD7950

- Memory: 2 x Kingston DDR4 2133 mhz 8gb 

- BIOS version: 1302

- OS: Windows 10 pro

 

My knowledge of BIOS settings etc is very limited, I only tried to change settings such as Asus auto performance tuner and XMP memory, without any good results.

 

Any advice on how to improve boot-time speed and speed in general are welcome.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, IslandStone said:

Hi.

 

I'm looking for insight as to why my computer is slower than suspected, even after fresh install of windows 10.

 

My main complaint is the boot-time, which is about 50 seconds at the moment.

 

The computer is from 2015, and have been used to simple gaming such as CS:GO, but mainly as a workstation for studies.

 

My computer consists of the following:

- Motherboard: Asus z170 deluxe

- CPU: Intel I7 6700k

- CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15s

- PSU: Corsair RM850x

- Storage: Corsair Force MP600 1tb installed to on-board M.2 slot (not with the pcie expansion card that also comes with the motherboard).

- GPU: Radeon HD7950

- Memory: 2 x Kingston DDR4 2133 mhz 8gb 

- BIOS version: 1302

- OS: Windows 10 pro

 

My knowledge of BIOS settings etc is very limited, I only tried to change settings such as Asus auto performance tuner and XMP memory, without any good results.

 

Any advice on how to improve boot-time speed and speed in general are welcome.

 

 

Applications you install will load up automatically after startup by default. Go into Task Manager and click on start-up and any applications you see there that don't need to start by default, right click them and select disable. Try this and see if it makes a difference

System

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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What all do you have installed on the machine?  Windows 10 alone on an SSD, even with old CPUs, will still be sub 20 seconds.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose, Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

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Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

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34 minutes ago, Hyrogenes said:

Disable all programs that startup on launch

 

24 minutes ago, TheJedi said:

Applications you install will load up automatically after startup by default. Go into Task Manager and click on start-up and any applications you see there that don't need to start by default, right click them and select disable. Try this and see if it makes a difference

I did as you adviced, and I also successfully installed the latest BIOS update. The version it was running was one of the first ones I figured.

 

Now I am down to 20ish second boot-time, which is much smoother than 50.

I am not sure if I will figure out any way to make it even faster, but I will also be happy with this result.

 

Thanks for the help!

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Just now, Dedayog said:

What all do you have installed on the machine?  Windows 10 alone on an SSD, even with old CPUs, will still be sub 20 seconds.

At the moment I only installed chrome after the fresh Win10 install. The computer has nothing else on it at the moment. The logo sequense upon booting takes 5 seconds or so, are there any options to disable this? (I mean the Asus motherboard logo)

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1 minute ago, IslandStone said:

At the moment I only installed chrome after the fresh Win10 install. The computer has nothing else on it at the moment. The logo sequense upon booting takes 5 seconds or so, are there any options to disable this? (I mean the Asus motherboard logo)

In the BIOS< there's a Fast Boot option (or similar).  

 

Otherwise that's the BIOS flash screen as it does thru checking things, but that's not impacted by your CPU/SSD.

 

I'm more concerned why your machine is taking time on the Windows part.  If you truly have nothing installed except Chrome, boot should take 15 seconds or less.  Do you have USB flash drives plugged in to the machine, any server drives mapped, etc.

 

When you say 50 seconds to boot up, are you talking about the Windows log in screen or fully into Windows?

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose, Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

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4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

In the BIOS< there's a Fast Boot option (or similar).  

 

Otherwise that's the BIOS flash screen as it does thru checking things, but that's not impacted by your CPU/SSD.

 

I'm more concerned why your machine is taking time on the Windows part.  If you truly have nothing installed except Chrome, boot should take 15 seconds or less.  Do you have USB flash drives plugged in to the machine, any server drives mapped, etc.

 

When you say 50 seconds to boot up, are you talking about the Windows log in screen or fully into Windows?

After performing a BIOS update just now, the boot time lowered to 20-25 seconds. I mean from pressing the power-button until the windows login screen appears.

 

I have nothing more connected to the computer except keyboard and mouse, monitor, headset and a backup keyboard.

Ill do some more testing to validate boot time

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9 minutes ago, IslandStone said:

After performing a BIOS update just now, the boot time lowered to 20-25 seconds. I mean from pressing the power-button until the windows login screen appears.

 

I have nothing more connected to the computer except keyboard and mouse, monitor, headset and a backup keyboard.

Ill do some more testing to validate boot time

That may be the extent then, since there's nothing else to do. 

 

I don't know my full boot time, since hitting the Windows screen is fast but then I have to wait for programs to load.  Or I can start my machine, use the bathroom, then login and things are ready.  Either way, things take time to load.

 

6 of one, half dozen of another. *shrug*

 

 

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose, Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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On 4/6/2021 at 7:25 AM, IslandStone said:

I am getting constant boot time of 27 seconds, and loading after typing the password is instant.

It may not be optimal, but I am happy with the improvement.

 

Thanks for the help!

I have the same motherboard as you with a 7700K with XMP default settings and around 7 drives, bootup time usually takes that long for me. I gave up trying to improve boot times as this board does take a while to bootup. Hope this helps. 

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