Help with "Bottleneck" ? 3070

[Khorgh]

Hi to all, context, I will have an MSI 3070 SUPRIM 8GB in a while and to compensate I am thinking of changing my processor to an I7 9700K (F), the problem is that I play in resolutions 1080p 144hz so my question is the following, there will be some kind of bottleneck? I have read in forums and they have said no and others that yes then I am in doubt because I have seen that there are setups with this same CPU with a 2080TI, I need help in their knowledge. I am planning to buy a 750 GOLD PSU.

 

Thx for helping me with this  

Motherboard: MSI Z370-A PRO

[Zando_]

What CPU do you have right now? 

[Khorgh]

I have an i5 8400  with an Cooler Master 212 EVO and a GTX 1060 MSI Gaming X

[Chris Pratt]

There's *always* a bottleneck. Caution against bottlenecks is about not pairing things that are obviously imbalanced. A 3070 is going to absolutely chew through 1080p games, so the bottleneck is always going to be the CPU under those conditions. However, something like 9700K will be a decent pairing.

[Khorgh]

4 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

There's *always* a bottleneck. Caution against bottlenecks is about not pairing things that are obviously imbalanced. A 3070 is going to absolutely chew through 1080p games, so the bottleneck is always going to be the CPU under those conditions. However, something like 9700K will be a decent pairing.

Thanks for responding so quickly and yes, you are absolutely right, I thought about switching to 10th generation but it is very overkill i think for play at 1080p and also the performance difference is not much although I do not have the money to do it (I understand it with benchmarks )

[xg32]

22 minutes ago, Khorgh said:

Hi to all, context, I will have an MSI 3070 SUPRIM 8GB in a while and to compensate I am thinking of changing my processor to an I7 9700K (F), the problem is that I play in resolutions 1080p 144hz so my question is the following, there will be some kind of bottleneck? I have read in forums and they have said no and others that yes then I am in doubt because I have seen that there are setups with this same CPU with a 2080TI, I need help in their knowledge. I am planning to buy a 750 GOLD PSU.

 

Thx for helping me with this  

Motherboard: MSI Z370-A PRO

it depends on how much you are getting the 9700k and 9900k for, just keep in mind a z590+11600k combo is 500usd and is even faster, so i wouldn't pay 300usd for a 9700k atc. anything you spend puts you closer to 3080 territory though the 8400 is a significant bottleneck

[Mark Kaine]

One thing to keep in mind is that this card doesn't make a whole lot of sense for 1080p and you will probably realize that quickly once you have it, so pairing it with a good cpu is the smart thing to do as you may want to upgrade your monitor sooner or later. 

 

Idk for sure if that's the case but something to keep in mind,  this is a 1440p card and will play its strengths best at that resolution.

[Khorgh]

5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it depends on how much you are getting the 9700k and 9900k for, just keep in mind a z590+11600k combo is 500usd and is even faster, so i wouldn't pay 300usd for a 9700k atc.

My only problem is that I do not live in the USA, i live in Chile and the prices are too expensive especially with the stock and the pandemic, that is why I am seeing the option of an i7 9700K (412usd) i9 9900K (596usd)

[xg32]

1 minute ago, Khorgh said:

My only problem is that I do not live in the USA, but in Chile and the prices are too expensive especially with the stock and the pandemic, that is why I am seeing the option of an i7 9700K (412usd) i9 9900K (596usd)

it's a really tough call with those prices.

[Khorgh]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

One thing to keep in mind is that this card doesn't make a whole lot of sense for 1080p and you will probably realize that quickly once you have it, so pairing it with a good cpu is the smart thing to do as you may want to upgrade your monitor sooner or later. 

 

Idk for sure if that's the case but something to keep in mind,  this is a 1440p card and will play its strengths best at that resolution.

That is why I am seeing a CPU that holds up well while I upload the resolutions and the truth is that I bought the 3070 because there was no stock even for a 3060ti, the 3070 appeared and I bought it without thinking because otherwise, I would never have a new one GPU

[Khorgh]

3 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it's a really tough call with those prices.

Yes, that's why I'm thinking about what to buy and that I don't regret doing it, imagine with those prices now, how the 11th generation will arrive and without saying that the 10th generation is quite expensive in terms of motherboards, the cheapest z490 is in 251usd

[Mark Kaine]

12 minutes ago, Khorgh said:

My only problem is that I do not live in the USA, i live in Chile and the prices are too expensive especially with the stock and the pandemic, that is why I am seeing the option of an i7 9700K (412usd) i9 9900K (596usd)

 

9 minutes ago, Khorgh said:

That is why I am seeing a CPU that holds up well while I upload the resolutions and the truth is that I bought the 3070 because there was no stock even for a 3060ti, the 3070 appeared and I bought it without thinking because otherwise, I would never have a new one GPU

Honestly I think the 9700k will be totally fine,  with a 10700k you'd get a couple of more fps, yeah, but I don't really see it as a bottleneck,  and I also momentarily forgot that should you ever play at higher resolutions that'll actually take load away from the cpu so it should still be fine. 

 

 

Btw you can try that out on a 1080p monitor too, just use Nvidia DSR, set it to 1440p or 4k , and in case you're cpu bottlenecked in some games watch performance *magically* go up while you play at higher resolution. 

 

But yeah I think any modern 8c/16t intel should be actually fine. 

 

 

[Khorgh]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

 

Honestly I think the 9700k will be totally fine,  with a 10700k you'd get a couple of more fps, yeah, but I don't really see it as a bottleneck,  and I also momentarily forgot that should you ever play at higher resolutions that'll actually take load away from the cpu so it should still be fine. 

 

 

Btw you can try that out on a 1080p monitor too, just use Nvidia DSR, set it to 1440p or 4k , and in case you're cpu bottlenecked in some games watch performance *magically* go up while you play at higher resolution. 

 

But yeah I think any modern 8c/16t intel should be actually fine. 

 

 

Thank you for answering and I think the decision is to go for the 9700k I think it will not be such a bad decision in this case and I think it will be a good couple, I plan to upload the resolutions in a minute but when I have the money haha, The only "bad" thing is that they are 8c / 8t but as you say, there should be no problems