Incorrect cpu and mobo temps

[Crowbar_XL]

Hello, I recently "upgraded" to a slightly newer motherboard than I was using before, used to have MSI H61M-P23 (B3) (1155) and now I've got a Asus H81M-R (1150) that I got for free from my friend who wasn't using it. I sold my old cpu (3770), motherboard and cooler. Used the money from those to get a 4770, and I was set. Or so I thought.

 

I sold the cooler which was a DeepCool Iceblade 100 because it had a 3 pin so I couldn't adjust speed. I was thinking I'd just get a similar cheap, decent heatpipe cpu cooler but 4 pin instead (was thinking of

LC-Power Cosmo Cool LC-CC-95), haven't gotten to that yet.

 

But meanwhile my issue is that the intel stock cooler that I've got rn is running like crazy no matter how low I try to set it. I even put it onto chassis fan pin instead of cpu fan pin so I could try to manually slow it down. I know my cpu shouldn't be that hot but it seems the readings are wrong or something.

 

I had the case with sidepanel off, replaced the thermal paste, ran furmark's cpu burner and was touching the radiator fins and they were like 50c or something like that, hardly that hot at all. Meanwhile speccy, where I was checking temps is showing like almost 100 degrees celsius and same story on motherboard (I'm assuming chipset?) temps. Still since I put it on chassis fan pin and I put the settings to only spin up on max temps, it was quiet while idle.

 

But now that I've closed the case and put it down where I usually hold it the fan is constantly maxing and its showing those temps even on idle. I'm assuming it is somewhat hotter but its definitely not 100 degrees there, had the previous components there and I don't remember ever having such abysmal temps. Help?

[Ulysses499]

Recheck if the cooler has good contact to the cpu, I have had some situations where the pins of the cooler came loose and my temps went berserk.

[R3dbullDrinker]

5 minutes ago, Crowbar_XL said:

Hello, I recently "upgraded" to a slightly newer motherboard than I was using before, used to have MSI H61M-P23 (B3) (1155) and now I've got a Asus H81M-R (1150) that I got for free from my friend who wasn't using it. I sold my old cpu (3770), motherboard and cooler. Used the money from those to get a 4770, and I was set. Or so I thought.

 

I sold the cooler which was a DeepCool Iceblade 100 because it had a 3 pin so I couldn't adjust speed. I was thinking I'd just get a similar cheap, decent heatpipe cpu cooler but 4 pin instead (was thinking of

LC-Power Cosmo Cool LC-CC-95), haven't gotten to that yet.

 

But meanwhile my issue is that the intel stock cooler that I've got rn is running like crazy no matter how low I try to set it. I even put it onto chassis fan pin instead of cpu fan pin so I could try to manually slow it down. I know my cpu shouldn't be that hot but it seems the readings are wrong or something.

 

I had the case with sidepanel off, replaced the thermal paste, ran furmark's cpu burner and was touching the radiator fins and they were like 50c or something like that, hardly that hot at all. Meanwhile speccy, where I was checking temps is showing like almost 100 degrees celsius and same story on motherboard (I'm assuming chipset?) temps. Still since I put it on chassis fan pin and I put the settings to only spin up on max temps, it was quiet while idle.

 

But now that I've closed the case and put it down where I usually hold it the fan is constantly maxing and its showing those temps even on idle. I'm assuming it is somewhat hotter but its definitely not 100 degrees there, had the previous components there and I don't remember ever having such abysmal temps. Help?

Maybe try reinstalling the cpu drivers

[svmlegacy]

If your CPU is too hot, it's due to one or both of two reasons:

1. CPU is not effectively transferring heat to the heatsink
2. Heatsink is not effectivey transferring heat to air.

It can be assumed that the CPU temperature is correct for Haswell. It's possible that the "chipset" temperature is actually a socket temperature reading.

 

If your heatsink is not getting hot, then you can narrow it down to the 1st issue. Redo your thermal paste and ensure the mounting mechanism is fully clipped in. Slowing down the fan will only make things worse.

[Crowbar_XL]

2 minutes ago, Ulysses499 said:

Recheck if the cooler has good contact to the cpu, I have had some situations where the pins of the cooler came loose and my temps went berserk.

Read that on google, yeah it does for sure, thermal paste is evenly spread on the heatsink and cpu, checked a few times. I had a celeron before I put in the 4770 and I don't know it didnt have this issue or it was just runing cooler enough that I didnt notice it.

 

3 minutes ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

Maybe try reinstalling the cpu drivers

Which ones? I updated to the lastest bios for this board and I looked up any available drivers for it, had like ethernet and raid utilities and that was it 

 

1 minute ago, svmlegacy said:

If you're CPU is too hot, it's due to one or both of two reasons:

1. CPU is not effectively transferring heat to the heatsink
2. Heatsink is not effectivey transferring heat to air.

It can be assumed that the CPU temperature is correct for Haswell. It's possible that the "chipset" temperature is actually a socket temperature reading.

 

If your heatsink is not getting hot, then you can narrow it down to the 1st issue. Redo your thermal paste and ensure the mounting mechanism is fully clipped in. Slowing down the fan will only make things worse.

 

I'm 99 percent sure its not that because I've redone it, check if the heatsink is seated, and the thermal paste is spread evenly across the cpu and heatsink

[Crowbar_XL]

 

 

I keep messing up the pic, anyway the point was after booting its around 75ish like bios and 10 seconds after I do almost anything basic like open chrome its up to 95

 

[Ulysses499]

1 minute ago, Crowbar_XL said:

The MB temp is also really concerning... can you check if the board has any dark spots, it could be a short in some way

[Crowbar_XL]

Just now, Ulysses499 said:

The MB temp is also really concerning... can you check if the board has any dark spots, it could be a short in some way

No it looks pretty fine, I would've noticed im pretty ocd. The little chipset heatsink also doesnt seem that hot at all to the touch. Also seems like its 50ish degrees at most. Can it be that the sensors are wrong on the board?

[svmlegacy]

5 minutes ago, Crowbar_XL said:

No it looks pretty fine, I would've noticed im pretty ocd. The little chipset heatsink also doesnt seem that hot at all to the touch. Also seems like its 50ish degrees at most. Can it be that the sensors are wrong on the board?

If you really want to confirm if the CPU is overheating, take a temperature measurement on the backside of the motherboard behind the socket.

[Ulysses499]

3 minutes ago, Crowbar_XL said:

No it looks pretty fine, I would've noticed im pretty ocd. The little chipset heatsink also doesnt seem that hot at all to the touch. Also seems like its 50ish degrees at most. Can it be that the sensors are wrong on the board?

Could be. In that case there is no real fix though as replacing the needed components is not something you want to do... the only solution would be to run fan curves by guessing the needed airflow (which does not sound good). But the thing is that for the 2 values that are alerting there would be at least 4-6 sensors that needed to fail. This seems very odd have you checked the cpu/mb for anything that could hinder contact of the pins? 

[Crowbar_XL]

1 minute ago, svmlegacy said:

If you really want to confirm if the CPU is overheating, take a temperature measurement on the backside of the motherboard behind the socket.

dont have any temp measuring equipment but Its only slightly warm to the touch on the back of it

 

1 minute ago, Ulysses499 said:

Could be. In that case there is no real fix though as replacing the needed components is not something you want to do... the only solution would be to run fan curves by guessing the needed airflow (which does not sound good). But the thing is that for the 2 values that are alerting there would be at least 4-6 sensors that needed to fail. This seems very odd have you checked the cpu/mb for anything that could hinder contact of the pins? 

Which pins you mean? Socket pins? Also wont the cpu throttle if its reading high temps. I guess I'll put the celeron back in and see if its got same readings with it.

[Ulysses499]

1 minute ago, Crowbar_XL said:

dont have any temp measuring equipment but Its only slightly warm to the touch on the back of it

 

Which pins you mean? Socket pins? Also wont the cpu throttle if its reading high temps. I guess I'll put the celeron back in and see if its got same readings with it.

Yeah exactly those. Forgot about the throttling , but yeah that could happen

[Crowbar_XL]

ok so all the pins look fine to me. Heatsink is contacting. Puting the celeron in it seems it is runing much cooler but the motherboard temps are the same. Checking the little orange heatsink on the mobo its almost cool to the touch. So beats me. I guess the conclusion is the cpu is actually runing hot. Faulty cpu? And faulty motherboard temp readings? 

[Crowbar_XL]

Also with the furmark cpu burner the celeron only goes up to like 52 degrees

[Skiiwee29]

Speccy is a bad program.. dont use it. Use HWInfo64 to monitor system specs and temps. 

[Crowbar_XL]

1 minute ago, Skiiwee29 said:

Speccy is a bad program.. dont use it. Use HWInfo64 to monitor system specs and temps. 

Yeah tried its also basically the same. Read somewhere they both might be reporting wrong motherboard temps tho? 

 

But idk why it would be reporting wrong cpu temps as well but it checks out, if they are exadurated if that makes sense since at 40 degrees with the celeron I can feel 0 heat from the heatsink or the back of the motherboard. I'm just not sure at this rate. I think I might just ignore it but this shitty loud stock fan is driving me crazy. That aftermaket one was runing on 100 percent for like 3 years since it had 3 pins and it was tolerable. I might as well just get a 3pin again since the temps are gonna mislead it

[Skiiwee29]

thats HWMonitor.. not HWInfo.. another bad program.. 

[Crowbar_XL]

12 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

thats HWMonitor.. not HWInfo.. another bad program.. 

Oops, my bad. Mixed them up. Gonna try hwinfo

 

But also guys I'm really confused right now. I reinserted the i7 and now it seems to have lower temps, 42 at idle and like sub 85 at stress test