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[cloneclone]

hey have these:

hdd with os that doesnt work

• let's call this hdd #1
• it's laptop size

empty ssd with nothing on it

• want to clone hdd #1 to empty ssd 
• it's laptop size

a laptop with hdd

• hdd has os that works
• let's call this hdd #2

 

need to clone data from hdd #1

1. what items to get to clone hdd #1 into ssd?
2. where to put in the empty ssd?
3. what cables do  to get to clone hdd #1 into ssd? 
4. do you connect this cable to the laptop with hdd #2? 
5. can you use an 'enclosure' device to do cloning? if so what item to get?
6. if use an 'enclosure', what are the steps to use it to clone?

pls just list all the options of how to do that - that would be helpful

dunno how this works

 

need to clone data from hdd #1

pls just list all the options of how to do that - that would be helpful

thx

 

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1. Ya get the same broken os, now on a ssd.

2. IDK, does the laptop/desktop have sapce for it.

3. You need cables to plug in a second drive, so normally a sata power + data cable.

4.  No, You only need the drive your cloning from, why is the laptop listed?

 

 

What is yoru goal here? If you have a broken os, just reinstall windows.

[cloneclone]

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[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

1. what do you mean? 
2. what do you connect hdd #1 to then? 
3. do you connect hdd #1 to ssd?
4. how can it clone without connecting to laptop?
5. what are full steps so can understand what you mean

What do you mean by a broken os on the hdd? If the os has issues, cloning won't help. 

 

Id do a reinstall here on the ssd. Don't try to clone. 

[cloneclone]

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[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, cloneclone said:

need full steps to clone, that's all this post is about

 

need to clone data from hdd #1

What is the full specs of the pc with the drive your cloning?

 

Can you boot from the os on the hdd and run macrum reflect or simmilar?

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[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

are you talking about hdd #1 or #2 said in the post? to be clear

if ur talking about hdd #1, no cos broken os

if ur talking about hdd #2, yes and i dont know if it has space, dunno computer stuff

 

but how to clone hdd #1 to ssd? asked in op

 

pls just list all the options of how to do that - that would be helpful

 

What are the sizes on the hdds and ssd here?

 

What are the specs on the system with the hdd you want to clone from?

 

Normally id just boot from a usb stick with a os with cloning tools. THen you won't need the laptop at all.

[cloneclone]

 

On 3/23/2021 at 3:03 PM, Electronics Wizardy said:

What are the specs on the system with the hdd you want to clone from?

i wanna clone from hdd #1 so i guess you're talking about hdd #1

 

i duno what you mean by 'system' with hdd #1

in op, i never said there were any other computers

 

instead i asked what items do i need to get, and all the different ways to do cloning

 

there are no other computers, i never said there were any other computers

it's just an hdd

 

 

On 3/23/2021 at 3:03 PM, Electronics Wizardy said:

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i still need someone that knows about cloning 

 

and is able to just answer the question asked already, this is why it's asked - to find a good answer

 

pls just list all the options of how to do that - that would be helpful

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, cloneclone said:

aptop size 

i duno if that affect the steps?

does that affect anything?

 

What capacity are the drives? You can noramlly only clone from smaller drives to the same size or bigger drives.

 

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

i duno what you mean by 'system' with hdd #1

in op, i never said there were any other computers

 

instead i asked what items are needed, and all the ways to do cloning

 

Ok then. Id get a usb to sata adapter like this guy https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Cable-Support-Black/dp/B07S9CKV7X/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=usb+sata&qid=1616526835&sr=8-4.

 

What os is the laptop running? Use a tool like dd on the laptop to make a image from the hdd, then clone it over to the ssd.

[cloneclone]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

capacity are the drives

ssd is bigger than hdd #1

dont remember exactly but it's bigger and ill double check later on

 

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

a usb to sata adapter

ok but i dont know what connects to tho

do i connect this to laptop or?

 

and where does ssd connect to? i dun understand the whole step/process when it comes to connecting

 

i needed the steps of what this thing connects which was asked in op

 

windows 10

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

ok but i dont know what connects to tho

It connects to the hard drive and the laptops usb port. Im assuming you have a sata hdd, but you haven't said so.

 

 

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

windows 10

Then use tools like hdd raw copy to make a image of the old hdd, then plug the ssd in and put that image on the ssd.

[cloneclone]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

connects to the hard drive and the laptops usb port

so hdd #1 connects to laptop ok

 

but where does ssd connect to? i dun understand the whole step/process when it comes to connecting

 

how can clone hdd #1 to ssd if ssd isnt connected to anything? 

 

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

then plug the ssd in and put that image on the ssd

what are the other cloning ways?

i cant connect empty ssd to anyting?

 

what are the steps for something like an 'Enclosure' way

https://www.amazon.com/QNINE-Enclosure-Adapter-Included-Samsung/dp/B07J9WNN9H

like how this whole thing work?

 

what are the steps of the 'Enclosure' way of cloning? maybe it'll be easier

or maybe better, or maybe its just the same

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

so hdd #1 connects to laptop ok

 

but where does ssd connect to? i dun understand the whole step/process when it comes to connecting

 

how can clone hdd #1 to ssd if ssd isnt connected to anything? 

Make a image of the hdd on the laptops drive. Then plug the ssd in. Then put that image on the ssd. Or buy a second usb to sata adapter.

 

2 minutes ago, cloneclone said:

https://www.amazon.com/QNINE-Enclosure-Adapter-Included-Samsung/dp/B07J9WNN9H

like how this whole thing work?

 

what are the steps of the 'Enclosure' way of cloning? maybe it'll be easier

or maybe better, or maybe its just the same

What model of ssd do you have? That enclosure will only work with m.2 nvme drives. Those enclosures can't clone drives either, you still need the laptop to do the cloning.

[cloneclone]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Or buy a second usb to sata adapter.

so if do that then can skip entire 'image' thing?

if so maybe that would be easier

 

 

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What model of ssd do you have?

unopened empty ssd someone gave me call 'wd blue 3d nand ssd'

 

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Those ccan't clone drives either, you still need the laptop to do the cloning.

oh...

so... whats the point of those 'enclosures' i thought they were for cloning..

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

oh...

so... whats the point of those 'enclosures' i thought they were for cloning..

 

There made to turn a internal ssd intel a external ssd. Its just a usb adapter. You can use them for cloning, but they work like any other adapter.

 

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

unopened empty ssd someone gave me call 'wd blue 3d nand ssd'

 

What model? There are many wd blue ssds out there.

 

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

so if do that then can skip entire 'image' thing?

if so maybe that would be easier

 

Works about the same, imaging on the laptop just saves you from buying the second adapter.

[cloneclone]

45 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

imaging on the laptop just saves you from buying the second adapter.

is this 'image' big? like lotta gb? if big prob get 2nd

 

46 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

model?

do you mean 'mdl' on ssd

duno what that is but 'mdl' says wds100t2b0a-00sm50

does that affect anything?

or it doesnt

 

47 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

There made to turn a internal ssd intel a external ssd

whats point of ppl doing that...

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, cloneclone said:

is this 'image' big? like lotta gb? if big prob get 2nd

 

Its the size of the first hdd. So a 500gb hdd will make a 500gb image

 

2 minutes ago, cloneclone said:

do you mean 'mdl' on ssd

duno what that is but 'mdl' says wds100t2b0a-00sm50

does that affect anything?

or it doesnt

So thats a 2.5in sata ssd. It will work like any sata drive. THey have a m.2 nvme version of the wd blue ssds that use difference connectors and protocols

 

3 minutes ago, cloneclone said:

whats point of ppl doing that...

You already have the ssd, its often cheaper, copy data from a dead laptop. Lots of reasons.

[cloneclone]

9 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

size of the first hdd

lap hdd #2 dont have size for this 'image' then.. need 2 'usb to sata things'

if get enclosure thing, wont need to to get 2 'usb to sata things' things yea? if so maybe would do that

 

9 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

often cheaper, copy data from a dead laptop

2 'usb to sata things' seems about same cost, ill have to check

[cloneclone]

17 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

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someone gave me a 'enclouseure' thing 

pic looks like this one https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Dual-Bay-Docking-Function-FD2002/dp/B00N1KXE9K

but i dun knw how to use it

 

i assume they're all the same, and it dont really matter which one you use

like some enclouseures can damage the drive? or no its all the same

 

im gonna try using this one/way 

but i dont know how to use it

 

which slot does hdd #1 go?

which slot does ssd #1 go?

A or B, it doesnt have instructions 

 

then ill go find out w/e the best free cloning software, and will see if it works

[Electronics Wizardy]

7 minutes ago, cloneclone said:

ap hdd #2 dont have size for this 'image' then.. need 2 'usb to sata things'

if get enclosure thing, wont need to to get 2 'usb to sata things' things yea? if so maybe would do that

 

THe enclosure you linked won't work here at all. It only works with m.2 drives, and you have 2.5in hdds and ssds only. The ssd won't fit in that enclosure. THis enclosure would work as its made for 2.5in hdds.

 

https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-USB3-0-External-Enclosure-Supported/dp/B01M08LCXW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=2.5in+hdd+enclosure&qid=1616532168&sr=8-4

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, cloneclone said:

someone gave me a 'enclouseure' thing 

pic looks like this one https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Dual-Bay-Docking-Function-FD2002/dp/B00N1KXE9K

but i dun knw how to use it

 

What model? There should be a manual online for it.

 

Id make sure to double check, as if you put the drives in wrong you wipe the data on the hdd.

[cloneclone]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

only works with m.2 drives

i dun knw what this is if its for computer for laptop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2

 

but anyway looks like cost of usb to sata cable is basicaly the same, so either way looks the same

and doesnt seen like this cables or enclouse would ever be useful again

 

well maybe tehy can use for backups in future

 

so to double check can you put 2 drives into this thing https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-USB3-0-External-Enclosure-Supported/dp/B01M08LCXW

i cant see 2 slots on the pics

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

so to double check can you put 2 drives into this thing https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-USB3-0-External-Enclosure-Supported/dp/B01M08LCXW

i cant see 2 slots on the pics

That is for one drive.

 

1 minute ago, cloneclone said:

i dun knw what this is if its for computer for laptop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2

BOth desktops and laptops use it, but you don't have a m.2 drive here.

[cloneclone]

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