Decade old topic... gtx970 or r9 290 or r9 390 help a newbie out lets choose one of this budget Gpus in 2021

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

Hello.

 

I'm a total noob when it comes to pc. But after sometime thinking and planing, finally decided to build myself a PC. Parts are coming in a week, but except the Gpu. Was planing a single pc streaming setup but then 1660's are out of stock everywhere(I don't live in USA btw), and getting 3000series atm is no no, So decided to go with a decent budget option for the time  bein. 

 

Here is my parts:

 

Cpu: ryzen 5 3600

Mobo: Msi mortar max b450m

Ram: Crucial Ballistix 16g in dual 3200mhz

Storage: some kingston nvme and 2tb 7200rpm hdd

Psu: haven't decided yet but gonna get 600w one

And some cheap as case. I can live with that

 

And 1080p 144hz display to go with it, thinking about upgrading to 1440p in some time tho not soon.

 

So, here is how this is looking right now,

 

Gtx 970 4gb ... 144 usd

R9 390 4gb  ...  134 usd

R9 290 4gb  ...  115 usd 

 

Seller is telling me they are all new, but we all know that's total bs. But I'm ok with that, as long as they runs.

 

So, Happy to hear your opinions guys

[MartinKweh]

Is a used rx580 not available?

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

Just now, MartinKweh said:

Is a used rx580 not available?

Yep. Only ones I could find is going way over $300 its crazy!

[MartinKweh]

But for me on the list. Id go for the 970. 

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

1 minute ago, MartinKweh said:

But for me on the list. Id go for the 970. 

Well that's one for the 970. Because of the power consumption may I ask?

[MartinKweh]

10 minutes ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

Well that's one for the 970. Because of the power consumption may I ask?

The 390x and the 970 has practically the same performance. Electricity being pretty expensive in my country, i think the extra cost on the 970 will pay for it self. 

[wONKEyeYEs]

48 minutes ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

R9 390 4gb

That's 8GB

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

20 minutes ago, wONKEyeYEs said:

That's 8GB

It is. There is a cheaper 4g variant. But I'm little confused, the seller listed it as 4gb, but on the specs sheet it clearly says 8gb. 

[Moonzy]

1 hour ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

single pc streaming setup

The 970, for the nvenc

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

18 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

The 970, for the nvenc

Thats 2 for the 970. I'm not looking forward to 720p res streaming tho

[Moonzy]

5 minutes ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

Thats 2 for the 970. I'm not looking forward to 720p res streaming tho

Why? My 970 streams 1080p just fine

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

25 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

Why? My 970 streams 1080p just fine

What games do you usually play/stream? 

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

What games do you usually play/stream? 

On my 970 it was mainly osu!

I tried streaming MHW on it and it was fine, just that my CPU was the bottleneck (can't run the game and obs at same time)

 

Though I suspect if my CPU wasn't being poopy, the GPU should encode it just fine, as I always used shadowplay in 1080p to record stuffs

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

2 hours ago, MartinKweh said:

The 390x and the 970 has practically the same performance. Electricity being pretty expensive in my country, i think the extra cost on the 970 will pay for it self. 

On older reddit topics, almost everyone is recommending r9 390 over 970 or even r9 290. But I really don't see any justification for their almost ×2 power consumption. 

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

2 hours ago, Abyssal Radon said:

Just look online at benchmarks and decide which one suites your gaming needs.

All 3 of them really. But I heard that Msi gaming 970 is good quit gpu

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

1 hour ago, Moonzy said:

On my 970 it was mainly osu!

I tried streaming MHW on it and it was fine, just that my CPU was the bottleneck (can't run the game and obs at same time)

 

Though I suspect if my CPU wasn't being poopy, the GPU should encode it just fine, as I always used shadowplay in 1080p to record stuffs

Hmmmmmm... hmmmmmmmmm... hmm... Do you really think you could stream MHW at 1080p on 970? I'm not so sure. Isn't that a very demanding title? Also, tbh I think shadowplay gives less sharpness, blurry, grainy look on graphics heavy games? 

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

Hmmmmmm... hmmmmmmmmm... hmm... Do you really think you could stream MHW at 1080p on 970? I'm not so sure. Isn't that a very demanding title? Also, tbh I think shadowplay gives less sharpness, blurry, grainy look on graphics heavy games? 

Nvenc have little impact on performance, so why not?

 

As for blurriness, the nvenc on 900 series would be equivalent to software x264 medium or fast, I think

So it's not too bad

[721831101]

5 hours ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

 

Gtx 970 4gb ...

which model?

ref 970 really sucks , having 200 to 300mhz lower clock than som aib model , and aib can even clock 150 to 200mhz more

 

anyway 970 is the way to go

although it just runs 40 to 55avg fps in most games , high settings

[Xkillerpn]

390 with 8g of vram cant go wrong with that.

 

Good options are RX5808g or gtx 1060 6G 

 

4g cards are short for 1080p, For example monster hunter can use way more then 4g of vram at 1080p 

 

For a budget GPU put the ones that have 4g vram or less to the side and look for 8g and 6g options. 

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

1 hour ago, 721831101 said:

which model?

ref 970 really sucks , having 200 to 300mhz lower clock than som aib model , and aib can even clock 150 to 200mhz more

 

anyway 970 is the way to go

although it just runs 40 to 55avg fps in most games , high settings

Seller just decided to add 20$ more to msi asus and gigabyte one for some reason. So now its 167ish for those 3 and 144 is for some Chinese models I guess.. iGame, coloful etc. 

[Tetsuo Muramasame]

1 hour ago, Xkillerpn said:

390 with 8g of vram cant go wrong with that.

 

Good options are RX5808g or gtx 1060 6G 

 

4g cards are short for 1080p, For example monster hunter can use way more then 4g of vram at 1080p 

 

For a budget GPU put the ones that have 4g vram or less to the side and look for 8g and 6g options. 

570 580 1060 1070 1660 s/ti everything I can find at now is atleast doubled their Msrp prices. Used. All of them. 

 

That'sthe reason why I thought, maybe I should just find something that works at low, for now then wait till I can get myself a 3060ti or even 3070. 

[721831101]

5 hours ago, Tetsuo Muramasame said:

Seller just decided to add 20$ more to msi asus and gigabyte one for some reason.

if so , decline all the deals