Disfunctioning loop, please help!

[Milesgaming]

Hey guys, I recently made a custom water cooling loop, and the temperatures have been very off, I mean very off for my specs, the specs are (cpu loop only)
All alphacool xt45 rads
1x360
1x280
1x120
Koolance 380i cpu block
Swiftech mcp655 pump on the 4th speed

Intel core i7 4770k @ 4.5 ghz, under full load (aida64) about 70 degrees celcius
Pictures:

[atrash]

I suggest you turn on the lights in your room, take off the side panel and retake the photo of your loop again.

[Milesgaming]

I suggest you turn on the lights in your room, take off the side panel and retake the photo of your loop again.

Why, you can see everything you need to see?

[MontBlanco]

Could it be a kink in your loop thats slows down the water flow? I see a few tight bends.

[Freaky_spider]

and whats your question? you showed us some pic and said your WC specs but no temps or CPU....

[YouRezz]

3 rads just for the cpu?? overkill much?

[Milesgaming]

and whats your question? you showed us some pic and said your WC specs but no temps or CPU....

I'll edit it, one sec

[Freaky_spider]

I'll edit it, one sec

okay that is strange, did you wash out your rads before installing them?

 

a full picture of the rig might be more helpfull to see if there are any kinks.

 

Otherwise i would think that you have a malfunctioning rad,

 

also, any strange pump noises, like it might be dying or something?

[atrash]

Milesgaming, on 25 Mar 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

Why, you can see everything you need to see?

 Take it from a distance. One full view. Easier to figure out how the loop works.

[Lays]

Why, you can see everything you need to see?

 

 

It would make it much easier to see everything in a bigger picture.

 

 

Also, what's your voltages on the CPU?

 

70C for a CPU in a custom loop isn't unheard of, although it takes quite a bit of voltage to get there. My 3930k hits ~70c at 1.48v 4.8ghz in prime95, but that's a different story.

 

The problem is most likely bad TIM on the CPU, bad block mount, or bad TIM between the DIE and IHS

[Milesgaming]

okay that is strange, did you wash out your rads before installing them?

a full picture of the rig might be more helpfull to see if there are any kinks.

Otherwise i would think that you have a malfunctioning rad,

also, any strange pump noises, like it might be dying or something?

Nope everything is very quiet, yes I did clean them, not that well though, I only ran some cold distilled water through them

It would make it much easier to see everything in a bigger picture.

Also, what's your voltages on the CPU?

70C for a CPU in a custom loop isn't unheard of, although it takes quite a bit of voltage to get there. My 3930k hits ~70c at 1.48v 4.8ghz in prime95, but that's a different story.

1.250

It would make it much easier to see everything in a bigger picture.

Also, what's your voltages on the CPU?

70C for a CPU in a custom loop isn't unheard of, although it takes quite a bit of voltage to get there. My 3930k hits ~70c at 1.48v 4.8ghz in prime95, but that's a different story.

The problem is most likely bad TIM on the CPU, bad block mount, or bad TIM between the DIE and IHS

[Lays]

1.250

 

The problem is most likely bad TIM on the CPU, bad block mount, or bad TIM between the DIE and IHS

 

 

I would try remounting the block, what thermal paste did you use when installing?  Your temps should be around 55-65ish I'd say.

[Milesgaming]

The problem is most likely bad TIM on the CPU, bad block mount, or bad TIM between the DIE and IHS

 

 

I would try remounting the block, what thermal paste did you use when installing?  Your temps should be around 55-65ish I'd say.

Tim, DIE IHS`? Already reseated AND chagned the thermal paste, only 3 deg ish change

[Lays]

Tim, DIE IHS`? Already reseated AND chagned the thermal paste, only 3 deg ish change

 

 

Which thermal paste?

 

And you could have bad contact between the "silver part" of the CPU, and the actual PCB itself.   Have you heard of delidding?   

 

Intel tends to use extremely crappy material inbetween these two parts of the CPU, sometimes it can cause temperature issues.

 

[Milesgaming]

Which thermal paste?

And you could have bad contact between the "silver part" of the CPU, and the actual PCB itself. Have you heard of delidding?

Intel tends to use extremely crappy material inbetween these two parts of the CPU, sometimes it can cause temperature issues.

I don't think so, because my temps were perfectly fine before, but even if it was, how could I fix it?

And arctic silver 5 btw

[Lays]

And arctic silver 5 btw

 

 

Hmm.. It doesn't seem like anything in the loop is messed up,  all the fans on the rads are on correct? (figured I'd ask lol)

 

Were you overclocked beforehand? 

 

 

One thing that could be wrong: the CPU block appears to have an intake and an outtake, do you have them right?

[Milesgaming]

Hmm.. It doesn't seem like anything in the loop is messed up,  all the fans on the rads are on correct? (figured I'd ask lol)

 

Were you overclocked beforehand? 

 

 

One thing that could be wrong: the CPU block appears to have an intake and an outtake, do you have them right?

Yes, no, yes But how do I fix the thing about the bad paste int he middle?

[atrash]

Is the pump actually moving any water?

[Lays]

Yes, no, yes But how do I fix the thing about the bad paste int he middle?

 

So you didn't have it overclocked before? Try backing off the OC to stock and re-testing, also what fans and what RPM are they at?

 

 

If you were to fix the bad paste, it's a bit difficult and tedious, but can sometimes result in 10c+ drops. 

 

I'll find two videos:

 

Watch at like 9 minutes, I started the video at 9:28 hopefully it works properly

 

Razor method:

 

http://youtu.be/7tPK6CdV_WI?t=9m28s

 

 

Vice method:

 

[Milesgaming]

Is the pump actually moving any water?

Lol yes...My cpu would be frying otherwise I think...What would be signs of it not moving water?

So you didn't have it overclocked before? Try backing off the OC to stock and re-testing, also what fans and what RPM are they at?

If you were to fix the bad paste, it's a bit difficult and tedious, but can sometimes result in 10c+ drops.

I'll find two videos:

Watch at like 9 minutes, I started the video at 9:28 hopefully it works properly

Razor method:

http://youtu.be/7tPK6CdV_WI?t=9m28s

Vice method:

Thanks bro, noctua nf f12s at 1200rpm and nf f14s and 1050 rpm

[Lays]

Lol yes...My cpu would be frying otherwise I think...What would be signs of it not moving water?

 

If you put your hand on it you can feel it vibrating right?  

 

Your loop goes like this correct?

 

Res->pump->front radiator->top radiator->cpu -> rear radiator-> res?

[Milesgaming]

If you put your hand on it you can feel it vibrating right?  

 

Your loop goes like this correct?

 

Res->pump->front radiator->top radiator->cpu -> rear radiator-> res?

Yes, and yes

[Lays]

Yes, and yes

 

 

It should be ok then, hmm..  The only thing I can think of then would just be the paste inbetween the ihs and die.

 

I'd wait for more people to post maybe @airdeano or @Ghost will know, but that's all I can think of.

[Milesgaming]

It should be ok then, hmm..  The only thing I can think of then would just be the paste inbetween the ihs and die.

 

I'd wait for more people to post maybe @airdeano or @Ghost will know, but that's all I can think of.

Ok, but the thing inbetween is like only 10 deg difference, and I'm getting absurd temps for having 700+mm of rad space, I'm sometimes hitting 45 on idle @ 4.5ghz

[Lays]

Ok, but the thing inbetween is like only 10 deg difference, and I'm getting absurd temps for having 700+mm of rad space, I'm sometimes hitting 45 on idle @ 4.5ghz

 

Yeah something is definately wrong, your idle temps should be 28-35c and under load 55-65