NAS + {eventually} Plex server build

[Rhebucks]

Budget (including currency): 8000zł

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: NAS + {eventually} Plex server

Other details: CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus WS C246M PRO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($214.84 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL EVO SPEAR Phantom Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  ($132.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ Amazon) 
Wired Network Adapter: QLogic QLE3242-CU-CK PCIe x8 10 Gbit/s Network Adapter  ($114.89 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($27.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1052.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts

no peripherals needed , going to buy it when my relatives will sort it out.

[Electronics Wizardy]

5 minutes ago, Rhebucks said:

Other details: CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Best Buy) 

Id go 10100 here, cheaper and simmilar speed, or 10400 for simmilar price and faster.

 

5 minutes ago, Rhebucks said:

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.95 @ Amazon) 

stock cooler is probably fine here, id go with a smaller tower if your not suing stock cooler

 

6 minutes ago, Rhebucks said:

Motherboard: Asus WS C246M PRO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($214.84 @ Newegg) 

Why the ws board, Id just get a noraml desktop board. You can't use ecc the big feature anyways on that cpu. Id just go b460, or ryzen if you want ecc

 

6 minutes ago, Rhebucks said:

Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 

What model are the drives, seem a bit cheap for new(probably used/refurb drives). Id also go fewwer bigger hdds

 

7 minutes ago, Rhebucks said:

Wired Network Adapter: QLogic QLE3242-CU-CK PCIe x8 10 Gbit/s Network Adapter  ($114.89 @ Amazon) 

Why that nic, there are cheaper better options(connect-x 3, x540, x520)

 

8 minutes ago, Rhebucks said:

Case Fan: Noctua A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($27.95 @ Amazon) 

Id get the lower rpm fans here to get it quieter.

 

What os are you planning on using?

[Dedayog]

You can do a NAS/Plex for MUCH cheaper than what you outline.  Like half or less.

[Rhebucks]

No GPU Required

[Rhebucks]

 

10 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id go 10100 here, cheaper and simmilar speed, or 10400 for simmilar price and faster.

 

stock cooler is probably fine here, id go with a smaller tower if your not suing stock cooler

 

Why the ws board, Id just get a noraml desktop board. You can't use ecc the big feature anyways on that cpu. Id just go b460, or ryzen if you want ecc

 

What model are the drives, seem a bit cheap for new(probably used/refurb drives). Id also go fewwer bigger hdds

 

Why that nic, there are cheaper better options(connect-x 3, x540, x520)

 

Id get the lower rpm fans here to get it quieter.

 

What os are you planning on using?

There are no relatively cheap mobos for 10th gen that handle the 1st upgrade+futureproofed network card like a dual 10 gigabit one
The 9600K box does not include a stock cooler, the height limit is 109 mm for breathing room.                   It was the cheapest one that whould handle the cheapest 2x10Gbit network card and the 1st upgrade

ST4000NC001 why more smaller HDD's? RAID 10                              in order to improve NAS longevity in 1st upgrade or intial phase               A common NAS OS (not gonna tell you)

[Rhebucks]

10 hours ago, Dedayog said:

You can do a NAS/Plex for MUCH cheaper than what you outline.  Like half or less.

that's still 2TB effective, not 8 using 16TB worth of drives for less downtime

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 hour ago, Rhebucks said:

 

There are no relatively cheap mobos for 10th gen that handle the 1st upgrade+futureproofed network card like a dual 10 gigabit one
The 9600K box does not include a stock cooler, the height limit is 109 mm for breathing room.                   It was the cheapest one that whould handle the cheapest 2x10Gbit network card and the 1st upgrade

ST4000NC001 why more smaller HDD's? RAID 10                              in order to improve NAS longevity in 1st upgrade or intial phase               A common NAS OS (not gonna tell you)

What all do you want the slots for? Id still go 10100 here and use a b460 board. One slot for a 10gbe nic, and one for a hba or other expansions card, should be plenty here.

 

Why would you want a second 10gbe nic, just use a switch.

 

What os? this does affect hardware picks a good amount

 

THose hdds are old eol models, get something new. Those are probalby gonna be used with a lot of hours on them. Id just raid 1 2 8tb drives here, no reason to use raid 10 here, esp for a media server. THen you can upgrade to a raid 10 if you want more space later on.

 

 

[MG2R]

You’re looking at dual 10 Gbps NICs as a necessity, so I’m assuming you have a fairly specific use case in mind? Could you share it?

 

 If it’s just plex + family photo/video/document storage, this thing is way, way over the top. I’m running a 6 yo Dell R510 and even that is just idling most of the time. For Plex, get a recent intel CPU with quicksync and you should be good for transcoding. For file serving with limited clients, literally almost anything will do. 
 

Unless you’re planning on running VMs, 32 GB of RAM will just go unused. Unless you have loads of clients hitting it at once, a 10 Gbps connection will go unused.

 

if you want to future proof: don’t. You’ll spend more now for stuff you don’t need and by the time the need arises you’ll probably have an old enough system that it warrants just replacing entirely. The only future proofing system that’s worth it is to get a motherboard with more PCIe than you need. If you need 10 gig nics down the road, just Chuck in an add-in card. 

[Rhebucks]

5 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What all do you want the slots for? Id still go 10100 here and use a b460 board. One slot for a 10gbe nic, and one for a hba or other expansions card, should be plenty here.

 

Why would you want a second 10gbe nic, just use a switch.

 

What os? this does affect hardware picks a good amount

 

THose hdds are old eol models, get something new. Those are probalby gonna be used with a lot of hours on them. Id just raid 1 2 8tb drives here, no reason to use raid 10 here, esp for a media server. THen you can upgrade to a raid 10 if you want more space later on.

 

 

no that is 1 card with 2 10gbit ports
others will sort out the os because it's a collab

[Dedayog]

6 hours ago, Rhebucks said:

that's still 2TB effective, not 8 using 16TB worth of drives for less downtime

I have no idea what that means, and how it is a response to my comment.

 

I'm saying your components are vastly overkill for a NAS/Plex server.  Look in my sig for mine, Ryzen 1600 and 10 year old GPU for video.  You can stack all the storage you want, but the guts of a file server don't have to be even remotely robust.

[Rhebucks]

this net structure is why i use dual 10gbit    

When streaming isn’t just streaming

A lot of people seem to use Plex for their video-streaming needs. Plex can do plain old streaming. That’s where Plex just pulls the video off the hard drive and sends it directly to the client in its existing form.

Plex is also capable of transcoding video. This allows the Plex server to convert 4K content down to something like 1080p, 720p, or 480p. Maybe one of your televisions can’t decode a 4K video. Maybe your phone is streaming from your Plex server over the Internet, and you just don’t have enough bandwidth to handle the original, full-quality stream.

Depending on your needs, this can require a ton of CPU or GPU power. If you need to send the streams to a phone using your data plan, you probably can’t get around this. If quality in these situations isn’t all that important, you probably don’t need all that much processing power. Encoding to 4K requires about four times as much processing power as encoding to 1080p, and encoding to 1080p requires about six times as much power as encoding to 480p.

I’ve seen people build Plex servers with expensive CPUs and GPUs just to stream to lower-spec devices around the house. I think that’s a terrible idea. Set-top boxes that can play 4K content are inexpensive now. They also sip power compared to a beast of a machine that you might need for transcoding!

I guess we can get away with calling this a rule of thumb. If you’re transcoding video, you’re not building a NAS anymore. That's why i have chosen a 9600k