HELP ME PIMP THIS RIDE!

[Mark Kaine]

Budget (including currency): no 

Country: yes 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: gaming, music, video 

Other detail: I want to pimp this thing as much as possible! (with existing parts) 

 

 

 

 

 

Definitely want to keep mobo, cpu, etc, can I plug in a 1050TI there tho? 

 

 

Is this a... fan? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I suppose this won't fit? •̀.̫•́'

 

Bonus pic:

 

 

 

(lol) 

 

 

OS: Windows XP 

 

 

 

[WhitetailAni]

Does it have a PCIe slot or an AGP slot?
There were PCIe-capable P4s.

 

EDIT:
Can you also put the pictures in spoilers?

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Does it have a PCIe slot or an AGP slot?
There were PCIe-capable P4s.

wait I have no idea that's why I'm asking... making a better pic, 

 

Also forgot to mention I have several other 'Pentium' PC's in case someone has some suggestions, I may have the parts.... (ram for example) 

 

 

 

(can't get better pic of the ram at the moment, need to get it out first) 

 

 

 

 

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

wait I have no idea that's why I'm asking... making a better pic, 

 

Also forgot to mention I have several other 'Pentium' PC's in case someone has some suggestions, I may have the parts.... (ram for example) 

 

 

 

(can't get better pic of the ram at the moment, need to get it out first) 

 

 

 

 

Looks like AGP to me, especially with the cooler design.

Might be AGP Pro.

Can you take the graphics card out of the slot and take a picture of the slot for me, and can you also put all the existing pictures in spoilers? It takes awhile to scroll down.

[Mark Kaine]

4 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Looks like AGP to me, especially with the cooler design.

I just checked, it says PCI for the two free slots. 

 

So 1050ti would work? not sure about that PSU lol... 

 

 

oh that's the gpu, I was wondering wtf it is

 

 

other thing is network card (don't need it) 

 

PS it says GEFORCE 4 MX 420

 

@ragnarok0273

[WhitetailAni]

1 minute ago, Mark Kaine said:

I just checked, it says PCI for the two free slots. 

 

So 1050ti would work? not sure about that PSU lol... 

 

 

oh that's the gpu, I was wondering wtf it is

 

 

other thing is network card (don't need it) 

 

 

PCI is not PCIe.
PCI is very different from PCIe.

PCI has 133 MB/s bandwidth, but for all of its slots.

PCIe has individual bandwidth, but has "lane allocation" that I don't understand.

Yeah, the GPU will have video output...

[Mark Kaine]

1 minute ago, ragnarok0273 said:

PCI is not PCIe.
PCI is very different from PCIe.

PCI has 133 MB/s bandwidth, but for all of its slots.

PCIe has individual bandwidth, but has "lane allocation" that I don't understand.

Yeah, the GPU will have video output...

I see so 1050 won't work?

 

 

I have another really old MSI maybe that'll work not sure. 

 

The GPU is 

 

GEFORCE 4 MX 420

btw 

 

With what could I replace it in the best case? 

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

I see so 1050 won't work?

 

 

I have another really old MSI maybe that'll work not sure. 

 

The GPU is 

 

GEFORCE 4 MX 420

btw 

 

With what could I replace it in the best case? 

Can you remove the GPU and take a picture of the slot, and also a picture of the GeForce 4?

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Can you remove the GPU and take a picture of the slot, and also a picture of the GeForce 4?

it doesn't budge... do I need to remove these screws? 

 

 

I removed the top screw obviously... 

 

[WhitetailAni]

The slot has a lock, kinda like a PCIe slot.

[Mark Kaine]

13 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Can you remove the GPU and take a picture of the slot, and also a picture of the GeForce 4?

Got it!  That doesn't look like PCI....... so Voodoo or what would be the best GPU to replace it? 

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

The slot has a lock, kinda like a PCIe slot.

yeah, it went way further down than I thought lol 

[WhitetailAni]

That's AGP.

I don't know my AGP cards too well, but your GeForce 4 should work.

[Mark Kaine]

14 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

That's AGP.

I don't know my AGP cards too well, but your GeForce 4 should work.

yeah should work, but it can't be too good... 

 

I've been looking for agp 4x 1.5v cards... I can't find any... they all have a different slot it seems... 

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

yeah should work, but it can't be too good... 

 

I've been looking for agp 4x 1.5v cards... I can't find any... they all have a different slot it seems... 

I only have 1 AGP slot, and it's universal, so I don't have to worry about cards fitting at all.

Interesting that the card is low-profile.

I'm pretty sure as long as the card has the same notching, it should work.

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

I only have 1 AGP slot, and it's universal, so I don't have to worry about cards fitting at all.

Interesting that the card is low-profile.

I'm pretty sure as long as the card has the same notching, it should work.

Right seems to be backwards compatible. 

 

 

this would fit and double the RAM! (for example) 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce4-ti-4800.c2139

 

 

not sure if it's worth it tho 

 

[WhitetailAni]

2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

this would fit and double the RAM! (for example) 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce4-ti-4800.c2139

 

 

not sure if it's worth it tho 

Did a bit more research and any AGP 1.5V card will fit.

I'm not sure of the performance difference between the GeForce 4 MX 420 vs the GeForce 4 Ti 4800.

@ProjectBox153, do you have any thoughts? I don't know a lot about AGP cards - I've only really dealt with PCI ones.

[Mark Kaine]

12 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Did a bit more research and any AGP 1.5V card will fit.

I'm not sure of the performance difference between the GeForce 4 MX 420 vs the GeForce 4 Ti 4800.

@ProjectBox153, do you have any thoughts? I don't know a lot about AGP cards - I've only really dealt with PCI ones.

yeah but I suppose agp 8x might be better even if it gets 'downgraded' to 4x.

 

the question really is which card!? 

 

I don't trust this fan less medion pc card to be any good

 

found this... but again, Idk if there's maybe another gen of cards compatible that would maybe be a reasonable upgrade.

 

 

^15  euros 

 

 

Thanks for your answers so far! 

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

yeah but I suppose agp 8x might be better even if it gets 'downgraded' to 4x.

 

the question really is which card!? 

 

I don't trust this fan less medion pc card to be any good

 

found this... but again, Idk if there's maybe another gen of cards compatible and would be a reasonable upgrade.

 

 

^15  euros 

 

 

Thanks for your answers so far! 

I'm not the person to ask about AGP cards, sorry

[ProjectBox153]

That looks like your average S478 Pentium 4. Definitely not PCIe-era. What are you looking to do with this thing? Even with loads of upgrades you aren't going to be able to run modern software on it very well, and even web browsing will be terribly slow. 

[Mark Kaine]

9 minutes ago, ProjectBox153 said:

That looks like your average S478 Pentium 4. Definitely not PCIe-era. What are you looking to do with this thing? Even with loads of upgrades you aren't going to be able to run modern software on it very well, and even web browsing will be terribly slow. 

Just play games that are designed for XP basically... but with a better gpu than the thing that's in now - if that's a thing (seems so as there are at least 128mb cards?) 

 

Also I still wonder what's up with the pci slots, they aren't meant for GPUs I guess? 

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

Just play games that are designed for XP basically... but with a better gpu than the thing that's in now - if that's a thing (seems so as there are at least 128mb cards? 

 

Also I still wonder what's up with the pci slots, they aren't meant for GPUs I guess? 

PCI was what you used for your modem, LAN, sound, etc., so the PCIe of the era except worse.

I've got a Pentium III board and it's got 1 AGP universal slot, 6 PCI slots, and 1 ISA 16-bit slot.

I've got a modem in the ISA slot, a LAN and SCSI card in the PCI slots (and I'm going to be putting in a sound card).

 

[ProjectBox153]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

Just play games that are designed for XP basically... but with a better gpu than the thing that's in now - if that's a thing (seems so as there are at least 128mb cards? 

 

Also I still wonder what's up with the pci slots, they aren't meant for GPUs I guess? 

PCI slots are designed for expansion(things like modems, network controllers, sound cards, storage controllers, etc.). Your system has an AGP slot already so there is no need to use a PCI GPU. 

[Mark Kaine]

Just now, ProjectBox153 said:

PCI slots are designed for expansion(things like modems, network controllers, sound cards, storage controllers, etc.). Your system has an AGP slot already so there is no need to use a PCI GPU. 

Right, so any suggestions what would be a good upgrade from the GeForce 4?  GeForce 4 TI perhaps? 

 

Or what's the max I could put in there? 

 

I mean I remember that GPU it's not bad but also not great im sure there are better options... 

 

[ProjectBox153]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

Right, so any suggestions what would be a good upgrade from the GeForce 4?  GeForce 4 TI perhaps? 

 

Or what's the max I could put in there? 

 

I mean I remember that GPU it's not bad but also not great im sure there are better options... 

 

I'm not really sure. What card is in there now? 

[WhitetailAni]

1 minute ago, ProjectBox153 said:

I'm not really sure. What card is in there now? 

It's a GeForce 4 MX440.