GPU Low Performance. What causing this?

[Curesto]

Hi, i have Sapphire R9 280X Tri-X OC 3GB GDDR5 384-Bit. It recently performing bad for some reason. I've tried 5-6 different drivers but can't fixed this problem. First of all, i've been getting 60 FPS on V-Sync on GTA V(Very High, AF X16, RMSAA X8, FXAA ON, MSAA OFF, 1280X1024) at %40-50 GPU usage.

 

Now it's dumped down to 25 FPS avarage at %90-100 GPU usage for some reason. I've been also getting much lower performance on every other game i've been playing.

 

GPU is running perfectly, there's no artifacts, crashers or something like that.

 

GPU can't even perform like GTX 750 at this moment.

 

I think it started to happen after an mutliple WattMan errors i've got about 5-6 days ago.

 

Even on Terraria, FPS drops to 40-30 FPS and GPU usage so high on this Game. Even my old HD 3650 was getting 60 FPS on this game.

 

GPU Drivers i've tried to hoping to fix this issue: Adrenalin 2020 21.1.1, Adrenalin 2020 20.9.2, Adrenalin 2020 20.4.2 and Adrenalin 2019 19.12.1

 

Specs:

CPU: Intel Xeon X5450 3.00 GHz

MB: Asus ROG Commando

GPU: Sapphire R9 280X Tri-X OC 3GB GDDR5 384-Bit 

RAM: Kingston 6GB DDR2 800 MHz CL6 2X 2GB 2X 1GB 

HDD: Samsung HD155UI 1.5 TB 5400 RPM

PSU: Gigabyte P650B 650W 80+ Bronze

OS: Windows 10 Pro 20H2 64-Bit

 

 

 

What should i do? What causing this? Are you witnessed something like this before? Thanks in advance. 

 

GTA V(Very High, AF X16, RMSAA X8, FXAA ON, MSAA OFF, 1280X1024)

 

 

 

 

[Jurrunio]

Do you have another card for testing?

[FakeFBI]

14 minutes ago, Curesto said:

Hi, i have Sapphire R9 280X Tri-X OC 3GB GDDR5 384-Bit. It recently performing bad for some reason. I've tried 5-6 different drivers but can't fixed this problem. First of all, i've been getting 60 FPS on V-Sync on GTA V(Very High, AF X16, RMSAA X8, FXAA ON, MSAA OFF, 1280X1024) at %40-50 GPU usage.

 

Now it's dumped down to 25 FPS avarage at %90-100 GPU usage for some reason. I've been also getting much lower performance on every other game i've been playing.

 

GPU is running perfectly, there's no artifacts, crashers or something like that.

 

GPU can't even perform like GTX 750 at this moment.

 

I think it started to happen after an mutliple WattMan errors i've got about 5-6 days ago.

 

Even on Terraria, FPS drops to 40-30 FPS and GPU usage so high on this Game. Even my old HD 3650 was getting 60 FPS on this game.

 

GPU Drivers i've tried to hoping to fix this issue: Adrenalin 2020 21.1.1, Adrenalin 2020 20.9.2, Adrenalin 2020 20.4.2 and Adrenalin 2019 19.12.1

 

Specs:

CPU: Intel Xeon X5450 3.00 GHz

MB: Asus ROG Commando

GPU: Sapphire R9 280X Tri-X OC 3GB GDDR5 384-Bit 

RAM: Kingston 6GB DDR2 800 MHz CL6 2X 2GB 2X 1GB 

HDD: Samsung HD155UI 1.5 TB 5400 RPM

PSU: Gigabyte P650B 650W 80+ Bronze

OS: Windows 10 Pro 20H2 64-Bit

 

 

 

What should i do? What causing this? Are you witnessed something like this before? Thanks in advance. 

 

GTA V(Very High, AF X16, RMSAA X8, FXAA ON, MSAA OFF, 1280X1024)

 

 

 

 

sir first your using 6gb of fucking ram , second a xeon, whhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaatttttt, your better off with a 4690, im not saying imedietly change, but these are limiting factors, for now i recomend re downloading drivers, windows, and steam if you can

EDIT: im sorry for being a aggresive fuck at start

[Curesto]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Do you have another card for testing?

Yes, i have an Asus HD 3650 512 MB DDR2 GPU. 

[Loki0111]

You are getting frame dips and my honest guess is that old Xeon is causing it and is acting as a CPU bottleneck. That non-multithreaded quadcore has a CPU pass mark of 2412 which puts it slower then most i3's or Ryzen 3's.

[FakeFBI]

1 minute ago, Loki0111 said:

You are getting frame dips and my honest guess is that old Xeon is causing it and is acting as a CPU bottleneck. That chip has a CPU pass mark of 2412 which puts it slower then most i3's or Ryzen 3's.

holy fricking moly you can get a xeon e3-1220 with 5k score, mate if you have a lga 1150 board get the cpu, theres xeons for lga 1155 and 1150 i think

[FakeFBI]

4 minutes ago, Loki0111 said:

You are getting frame dips and my honest guess is that old Xeon is causing it and is acting as a CPU bottleneck. That chip has a CPU pass mark of 2412 which puts it slower then most i3's or Ryzen 3's.

hes using 5/6gb of ram in game, so yea 8gb needed or more today tbh 16gb is medicore

[Loki0111]

1 minute ago, ComputerBuilder said:

hes using 5/6gb of ram in game, so yea 8gb needed or more today tbh 16gb is medicore

The RAM is an issue across the board DDR2 at 800mhz is freaking horrific. But just bumping RAM won't entirely solve his underlying problem.

 

I do agree 8GB should be the minimum for gaming these days.

[FakeFBI]

Just now, Loki0111 said:

The RAM is an issue across the board DDR2 at 800mhz is freaking horrific. But just bumping RAM won't entirely solve his underlying problem.

 

I do agree 8GB should be the minimum for gaming these days.

tbh its fastly becoming 16gb minmum, for games like cyberpunk and msfs20

[FakeFBI]

1 minute ago, Loki0111 said:

The RAM is an issue across the board DDR2 at 800mhz is freaking horrific. But just bumping RAM won't entirely solve his underlying problem.

 

I do agree 8GB should be the minimum for gaming these days.

if hes on such a tight budget, he should get a xeon e3-1220 v3, they are = i5-4690, great budget cpu that does run warzone smootly

[FakeFBI]

Just now, ComputerBuilder said:

if hes on such a tight budget, he should get a xeon e3-1220 v3, they are = i5-4690, great budget cpu that does run warzone smootly

and the 1285 is=4770k

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, Curesto said:

Yes, i have an Asus HD 3650 512 MB DDR2 GPU. 

so the HD3650 was not only faster back then, it is also faster now? Core clock and memory clock looks fine, temperature is decent, usage is high, maybe the OC is unstable? 280X only had a boost clock of 1GHz and old cards do degrade.

 

Also with newer versions of Task Manager (I think Afterburner can do it as well) you can check per thread usage of the CPU, it's possible that a few threads are being pinned to max usage bit the rest are not, leading to that mid 70s percent usage.

 

7 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

sir first your using 6gb of fucking ram

It's only using 5gb in the screenshot

 

7 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

second a xeon, whhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaatttttt,

Xeons are just Core series with registered memory support, Xeon series itself is fine.

 

@Loki0111 What's not fine is lack of support with new instruction sets like AVX, but this would make the games run bad from the very beginning.

 

 

[Loki0111]

Just now, ComputerBuilder said:

tbh its fastly becoming 16gb minmum, for games like cyberpunk and msfs20

Lol, there is no way his rig will run Cyberpunk. Assuming it even launched he'd be at slideshow frame rates.

 

But yah if you have a modern system capable of running Cyberpunk you'd want 16GB min.

[FakeFBI]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

so the HD3650 was not only faster back then, it is also faster now? Core clock and memory clock looks fine, temperature is decent, usage is high, maybe the OC is unstable? 280X only had a boost clock of 1GHz and old cards do degrade.

 

Also with newer versions of Task Manager (I think Afterburner can do it as well) you can check per thread usage of the CPU, it's possible that a few threads are being pinned to max usage bit the rest are not, leading to that mid 70s percent usage.

 

It's only using 5gb in the screenshot

 

Xeons are just Core series with registered memory support, Xeon series itself is fine.

 

@Loki0111 What's not fine is lack of support with new instruction sets like AVX, but this would make the games run bad from the very beginning.

 

 

the only fucking xeons that stand a chance are the haswell xeons that support lga1150

[Jurrunio]

Just now, ComputerBuilder said:

if hes on such a tight budget, he should get a xeon e3-1220 v3, they are = i5-4690, great budget cpu that does run warzone smootly

Oh and because Haswell is the last platform that allows Xeons on consumer motherboards, their used price is too high to be considered in most regions.

[FakeFBI]

Just now, Loki0111 said:

Lol, there is no way his rig will run Cyberpunk. Assuming it even launched he'd be at slideshow frame rates.

 

But yah if you have a modern system capable of running Cyberpunk you'd want 16GB min.

literally many other games like 16gb because most run at least 7gb of ram

[Curesto]

7 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

sir first your using 6gb of fucking ram , second a xeon, whhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaatttttt, your better off with a 4690, im not saying imedietly change, but these are limiting factors, for now i recomend re downloading drivers, windows, and steam if you can

EDIT: im sorry for being a aggresive fuck at start

Well, i don't know why people always says something negative about my system. I know it's old, it peforms great for me and because of that, i don't think i need better system. I love my 13 years old Xeon and 6GB RAM. It performing perfectly with R9 280X, even i was suprised with this kind of peformance from this CPU. Until this week at least.

[FakeFBI]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Oh and because Haswell is the last platform that allows Xeons on consumer motherboards, their used price is too high to be considered in most regions.

what, they are cheap what you mean, i got mine for damn $30

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, ComputerBuilder said:

the only fucking xeons that stand a chance are the haswell xeons that support lga1150

Dont use such strong words, X79 and X99 Xeons are still decent if the price is right.

[Curesto]

This thread out of it's purpose. Please stop...

[Loki0111]

4 minutes ago, Curesto said:

Well, i don't know why people always says something negative about my system. I know it's old, it peforms great for me and because of that, i don't think i need better system. I love my 13 years old Xeon and 6GB RAM. It performing perfectly with R9 280X, even i was suprised with this kind of peformance from this CPU. Until this week at least.

If you are happy with the performance that is fine, as long as you understand what you should be getting from it. But you are going to be increasingly CPU bottlenecked on more intensive titles. Anything running a complex background world simulation is more likely going to chug, it has nothing to do with your GPU.

 

Xeon X5450 - 4C/4T CPU pass mark 2,412.

 

Ryzen 3 3100 - 4C/8T CPU pass mark 11,746

[Curesto]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

so the HD3650 was not only faster back then, it is also faster now? Core clock and memory clock looks fine, temperature is decent, usage is high, maybe the OC is unstable? 280X only had a boost clock of 1GHz and old cards do degrade.

 

Also with newer versions of Task Manager (I think Afterburner can do it as well) you can check per thread usage of the CPU, it's possible that a few threads are being pinned to max usage bit the rest are not, leading to that mid 70s percent usage.

 

 

 

 

Okay, i'll give it a try.

[FakeFBI]

1 minute ago, Curesto said:

Well, i don't know why people always says something negative about my system. I know it's old, it peforms great for me and because of that, i don't think i need better system. I love my 13 years old Xeon and 6GB RAM. It performing perfectly with R9 280X, even i was suprised with this kind of peformance from this CPU. Until this week at least.

hmm good explanation, but if you adore xeons that much, the e3 v3 series was magnificant for like $50-30, then get a board from $30--100, some cheap hell ram, and boom new combo, trust me its your cpu limiting here, since its a xeon v1 im guessing, or older, but also first gen i7 is also a option suprisingly, and you could keep xeon, and use it as a minecraft server

[FakeFBI]

Just now, Loki0111 said:

If you are happy with the performance that is fine, as long as you understand what you should be getting from it. But you are going to be increasingly CPU bottlenecked on more intensive titles.

 

Xeon X5450 - 4C/4T CPU pass mark 2,412.

 

Ryzen 3 3100 - 4C/8T CPU pass mark 11,746

thank you for explaining what we mean, im terrible at doing it

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Curesto said:

Okay, i'll give it a try.

Testing with games that dont receive updates anymore will also be more consistent, GTA 5 and Terraria are being updated afaik