feedback needed Gaming PC build

[Svenvdv]

Budget (including currency): Max budget 1500 euros (preferably between 1400-1450 euros)

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly Forza Horizen 4, GTA5, Cyberpunk 2077, Ark, Witcher 3, No Man Sky

Other details:

Im looking for feedback. If so can you explain why.
This is the list I made: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/QCj4Jf

I want to play at 144Hz (I have not decided yet If Im buying 1080p or 1440p monitor) (the monitor is not part of the budget)

Note: I chose the corsair 4000X RGB and im replacing the front pannel to the 4000D airflow pannel, because I want rgb fans and good airflow and it is cheaper this way around then to choose the 4000D airflow and buy a 3pack of fans.

[Just a Random Joe]

21 minutes ago, Svenvdv said:

Budget (including currency): Max budget 1500 euros (preferably between 1400-1450 euros)

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly Forza Horizen 4, GTA5, Cyberpunk 2077, Ark, Witcher 3, No Man Sky

Other details:

Im looking for feedback. If so can you explain why.
This is the list I made: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/QCj4Jf

I want to play at 144Hz (I have not decided yet If Im buying 1080p or 1440p monitor) (the monitor is not part of the budget)

Note: I chose the corsair 4000X RGB and im replacing the front pannel to the 4000D airflow pannel, because I want rgb fans and good airflow and it is cheaper this way around then to choose the 4000D airflow and buy a 3pack of fans.

The list you made is quite solid. 5600X and a 3070 is pretty good, and if you don't do anything besides gaming 6 cores is enough and the 3070 can push 144HZ and even beyond in most competitive games like Rocket League CS:GO and League of Legends at either 1080p or 1440p, although what i would recommend for a monitor would be a 27" 1440p 144hz 1ms G-Sync or something like that is what i would consider a sweet spot for games. The only feedback i have on your list is your RAM timing (CL) is quite high at 18. What you could do to save some money is buy a 3200mhz cl16 kit. preferably Corsair or HyperX and OC it yourself to 3600mhz, and you'll end up with 3600MHz cl 16 at less money spent. You might also want to add up some storage too as i don't think 1TB will be enough, with games like GTA V taking up to 100GB of disk space you'll run out pretty soon. so i'd also recommend you to get a SATA 1tb SSD like a Samsung 860 EVO. Also do yourself a favour and buy an aftermarket cooler so your room doesn't heat up as well.

[Just a Random Joe]

Preferably an Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo for the aftermarket cooler. 

[Svenvdv]

 

 

 

[Svenvdv]

56 minutes ago, Just a Random Joe said:

The list you made is quite solid. 5600X and a 3070 is pretty good, and if you don't do anything besides gaming 6 cores is enough and the 3070 can push 144HZ and even beyond in most competitive games like Rocket League CS:GO and League of Legends at either 1080p or 1440p, although what i would recommend for a monitor would be a 27" 1440p 144hz 1ms G-Sync or something like that is what i would consider a sweet spot for games. The only feedback i have on your list is your RAM timing (CL) is quite high at 18. What you could do to save some money is buy a 3200mhz cl16 kit. preferably Corsair or HyperX and OC it yourself to 3600mhz, and you'll end up with 3600MHz cl 16 at less money spent. You might also want to add up some storage too as i don't think 1TB will be enough, with games like GTA V taking up to 100GB of disk space you'll run out pretty soon. so i'd also recommend you to get a SATA 1tb SSD like a Samsung 860 EVO. Also do yourself a favour and buy an aftermarket cooler so your room doesn't heat up as well.

Hello Joe

thx for the feedback, im happy with it cause it is my first self made pc build.

First about the Storage, in my current pc I have a 3TB HDD in in and im planning to use that one, that saves me some money.

do you have any monitor suggestions around 300 euros?

For the RAM is the Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 16 GB 2 x 8 GB 3200 CL16 a good choise?

For the CPU i'd rather have a 8 core cpu, but the 5800X is too much money for me. Should I just go with the 5600X or wait for the 5800 non X? (when it comes out)

And I wil look into a better CPU cooler then the stock cooler.

[Just a Random Joe]

1 hour ago, Svenvdv said:

Hello Joe

thx for the feedback, im happy with it cause it is my first self made pc build.

First about the Storage, in my current pc I have a 3TB HDD in in and im planning to use that one, that saves me some money.

do you have any monitor suggestions around 300 euros?

For the RAM is the Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 16 GB 2 x 8 GB 3200 CL16 a good choise?

For the CPU i'd rather have a 8 core cpu, but the 5800X is too much money for me. Should I just go with the 5600X or wait for the 5800 non X? (when it comes out)

And I wil look into a better CPU cooler then the stock cooler.

The RAM is the exact kit i have. I have spent the past hour trying to oc this kit to 3600mhz cl16 or cl18 and it just didn't work. So picking up 3200mhz cl16 and overclocking it to 3600mhz (At least for this specific model) will cause it to run at CL26 which is quite high for Ryzen standards, so it's your choice. For the CPU if all you do is gaming then 6 cores is enough so don't bother going for the 5800 if everything you do is play games and surf the internet. For the monitor at  that price of 300 euros you could try and find a 1080p 144hz (Or 165Hz) 1ms with Gsync as that should still be plenty smooth. If however you do decide to go for anything above 300$ my point still stands, you can either choose between a 1080 240hz 1ms or 1440p 144hz 1ms, your choice. Oh and one more thing, the only games you should place on an HDD are singleplayer games where loading times don't matter. If for say you try and place PUBG on the HDD you will find yourself having your game loaded after the game started, and/or encounter glitchy terrain and textures. (Not limited to PUBG it was just and example) 

[VEXICUS]

Looks good to me...

 

I'll just swap the ram to a 3600mhz cl16 unit..

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€104.06 @ Azerty) 

Total: €104.06

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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[Svenvdv]

2 hours ago, Just a Random Joe said:

The RAM is the exact kit i have. I have spent the past hour trying to oc this kit to 3600mhz cl16 or cl18 and it just didn't work. So picking up 3200mhz cl16 and overclocking it to 3600mhz (At least for this specific model) will cause it to run at CL26 which is quite high for Ryzen standards, so it's your choice. For the CPU if all you do is gaming then 6 cores is enough so don't bother going for the 5800 if everything you do is play games and surf the internet. For the monitor at  that price of 300 euros you could try and find a 1080p 144hz (Or 165Hz) 1ms with Gsync as that should still be plenty smooth. If however you do decide to go for anything above 300$ my point still stands, you can either choose between a 1080 240hz 1ms or 1440p 144hz 1ms, your choice. Oh and one more thing, the only games you should place on an HDD are singleplayer games where loading times don't matter. If for say you try and place PUBG on the HDD you will find yourself having your game loaded after the game started, and/or encounter glitchy terrain and textures. (Not limited to PUBG it was just and example) 

About the HDD in my current pc I have never had the issue of loading in the game after it stared at mutiplayer games like warzone/fortnite/rocket league

About the RAm shoud I keep the Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 16 GB 2 x 8 GB 3200 CL16 
or go for the 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 16 GB 2 x 8 GB 3600 CL16

Because the diffirence in price is 10 euros

[Just a Random Joe]

3 hours ago, Svenvdv said:

About the HDD in my current pc I have never had the issue of loading in the game after it stared at mutiplayer games like warzone/fortnite/rocket league

About the RAm shoud I keep the Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 16 GB 2 x 8 GB 3200 CL16 
or go for the 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 16 GB 2 x 8 GB 3600 CL16

Because the diffirence in price is 10 euros

If the price difference is only 10 euroos then go for it. Amd is hungry for memory, and the recommended speed is 3600mhz. Just make sure it's running at 3600mhz from the bios. If not enabling XMP should do the trick, but i recommend you do some digging before changing bios settings if you've never done it before. 

[Svenvdv]

12 minutes ago, Just a Random Joe said:

If the price difference is only 10 euroos then go for it. Amd is hungry for memory, and the recommended speed is 3600mhz. Just make sure it's running at 3600mhz from the bios. If not enabling XMP should do the trick, but i recommend you do some digging before changing bios settings if you've never done it before. 

then I will change it to 3600mhz

I have checked some monitors both from samsung
what do you thing of them?

Samsung C27RG50FQU Gaming Monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T2Y5ZG7/ref=asc_df_B07T2Y5ZG71609763400000/?tag=kiesproduct20-21&creative=380333&creativeASIN=B07T2Y5ZG7&linkCode=asn&ascsubtag=2-E8801643931421-U83853903-P578307466-GA1.2.957228819.1609962490

2nd one: Samsung odyssey G5 https://www.samsung.com/nl/monitors/gaming/odyssey-gaming-monitor-cg5-27-inch-lc27g55tqwuxen/ 

 

[Just a Random Joe]

1 hour ago, Svenvdv said:

then I will change it to 3600mhz

I have checked some monitors both from samsung
what do you thing of them?

Samsung C27RG50FQU Gaming Monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T2Y5ZG7/ref=asc_df_B07T2Y5ZG71609763400000/?tag=kiesproduct20-21&creative=380333&creativeASIN=B07T2Y5ZG7&linkCode=asn&ascsubtag=2-E8801643931421-U83853903-P578307466-GA1.2.957228819.1609962490

2nd one: Samsung odyssey G5 https://www.samsung.com/nl/monitors/gaming/odyssey-gaming-monitor-cg5-27-inch-lc27g55tqwuxen/ 

 

The first monitor you sent is the one i own, (What a coincidence) so speaking from this standpoint, my time with it has been very enjoyable and i would recommend it. The only issue you might have with it is that it is 4ms instead of 1ms, but the difference is so small that it should not drive you away from buying it. Also 27" at 1080p doesn't look bad in my opinion, contrary to popular opinion. Regardless, you'll be happy with it. As for the second monitor, it's too expensive for what it does and it has Free-sync instead of G-Sync, so the first one is better in your case. 

[Svenvdv]

44 minutes ago, Just a Random Joe said:

The first monitor you sent is the one i own, (What a coincidence) so speaking from this standpoint, my time with it has been very enjoyable and i would recommend it. The only issue you might have with it is that it is 4ms instead of 1ms, but the difference is so small that it should not drive you away from buying it. Also 27" at 1080p doesn't look bad in my opinion, contrary to popular opinion. Regardless, you'll be happy with it. As for the second monitor, it's too expensive for what it does and it has Free-sync instead of G-Sync, so the first one is better in your case. 

about the 2nd monitor google said that it also supported G sync

I have a question about the 1st monitor, when you play games like rocket league/warzone (esports titles) do you feel/notice the diffirence between 1ms and 4ms to a point where its affecting your gameplay?

[Just a Random Joe]

41 minutes ago, Svenvdv said:

about the 2nd monitor google said that it also supported G sync

I have a question about the 1st monitor, when you play games like rocket league/warzone (esports titles) do you feel/notice the diffirence between 1ms and 4ms to a point where its affecting your gameplay?

There is no ghosting at all, and saying the difference between 1ms and 4ms is affecting your gameplay (no matter the monitor model) is like saying 220 fps is unplayable compared to 240. Like there is virtually no difference between a 1ms and 4ms pannel, the response time basically means how quickly individual pixels can change between colors, but more importantly shades of colors. When a monitor isn't able to switch between colors fast enough ghosting is created (weird shades of grey resembling a shape of where a moving object previously was). 4ms is plenty enough to not create ghosting even on fast refreshing pannels like this 240hz one. As for my personal experience, i haven't had glare or ghosting issues, as i said this monitor just shows how good samsung is at making displays (They're very good!). The one thing to keep in mind is: When setting up G-Sync from the nvidia control pannel make sure you disable the setting called "Enable settings for the selected display model" as it causes flickering. 

[Svenvdv]

8 minutes ago, Just a Random Joe said:

There is no ghosting at all, and saying the difference between 1ms and 4ms is affecting your gameplay (no matter the monitor model) is like saying 220 fps is unplayable compared to 240. Like there is virtually no difference between a 1ms and 4ms pannel, the response time basically means how quickly individual pixels can change between colors, but more importantly shades of colors. When a monitor isn't able to switch between colors fast enough ghosting is created (weird shades of grey resembling a shape of where a moving object previously was). 4ms is plenty enough to not create ghosting even on fast refreshing pannels like this 240hz one. As for my personal experience, i haven't had glare or ghosting issues, as i said this monitor just shows how good samsung is at making displays (They're very good!). The one thing to keep in mind is: When setting up G-Sync from the nvidia control pannel make sure you disable the setting called "Enable settings for the selected display model" as it causes flickering. 

Thanks for all this information, its really helpful.

the 1 thing I have to see for myself is if I like a curved monitor

btw does the monitor has a big curve or not?

[Just a Random Joe]

On 1/7/2021 at 2:12 AM, Svenvdv said:

Thanks for all this information, its really helpful.

the 1 thing I have to see for myself is if I like a curved monitor

btw does the monitor has a big curve or not?

The curve is barely noticeable. I honestly prefer it over a flat screen.

[Svenvdv]

13 hours ago, Just a Random Joe said:

The curve is barely noticeable. I honestly prefer it over a flat screen.

good to know

last question about the monitor. some people say that 1080p with a 27 ich monitor is not really good because of the pixel density

they say that the screen gets blurry if you sit like 60 to 90 cm from your monitor

im sitting around 70 cm away from my monitor 

what are your toughts on this and how far away is your monitor from your eyes?

 

 

[Just a Random Joe]

23 hours ago, Svenvdv said:

good to know

last question about the monitor. some people say that 1080p with a 27 ich monitor is not really good because of the pixel density

they say that the screen gets blurry if you sit like 60 to 90 cm from your monitor

im sitting around 70 cm away from my monitor 

what are your toughts on this and how far away is your monitor from your eyes?

 

 

I can't notice the pixels on this monitor even from the 60cm i'm sitting from it.